The Mormon Jesus
This post is very important to comprehend for Mormons who have questions about their faith and others who come to CARM to read the forums in order to try and discern what is True and what the Bible really teaches!
Watch Mormon Apologists on CARM try and deny the shortcomings of Mormon scripture and doctrine.
When you deceive and tell a lie, you have to tell another lie to try and cover it all up, and the Bible exposes the LDS deception.
Here are two quotes about the Mormon Jesus,
Quote from Orson Hyde, March 18, 1855
I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference (October 6, 1854), that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children.
All that I have to say in reply to that charge is this—they worship a Savior that is too pure and holy to fulfil the commands of his Father. I worship one that is just pure and holy enough "to fulfil all righteousness;" not only the righteous law of baptism, but the still more righteous and important law "to multiply and replenish the earth." Startle not at this! for even the Father himself honored that law by coming down to Mary, without a natural body, and begetting a son; and if Jesus begat children, he only "did that which he had seen his Father do." (Quote form Journal of Discourses, Volume 2, page 210).
Quote from brotherofJared,
That depends on what you think God is. You all seem to believe that God is an intelligence that keeps his creations in a fishbowl and oddly, just watches them kill each other and promises them that they will live forever in that fishbowl if they love him. It doesn't seem to me that it'd make any difference if that kind of being is a man or a spirit. Either way, regardless of what he is, he could easily do that, but to what end?
But one thing is for sure, Jesus is a glorified man, an exalted man and not a spirit. Your suggestion seems to include Jesus on that spiritual evolutionary ladder. If Jesus can be embodied and be that man looking in the fishbowl after his creations, then certainly, God can be too.
So from the statements above we know that Mormons believe that Jesus was begotten when the Heavenly Father had physical relations with Mary, his daughter (that would be by incest as the Mormon God has a tangible body of flesh and bones, D&C 130).
Jesus was married (you cannot attain the Celestial Kingdom without the covenant of marriage, D&C 131 & 132).
Jesus begat physical children
Jesus is a glorified man, an exalted man and but not a spirit
Mormon Doctrine teaches that Mormons believe satan is a brother of Jesus (Mormons believe that Heavenly Father is the father of us all, making us all brothers and sisters. In that sense, yes, Mormons believe that Jesus and satan are siblings, but no more than you and I are also siblings of them). (Defining statement from Mormon Apologetic website).
What Does The Bible Say About Jesus?
The definitive NT scripture on Jesus is found in John 1:1-5, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it."
The definitive scripture on God in the OT is found in Deuteronomy 6:4, "Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!" And also in Isaiah 9:6, "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace."
Matthew 1:23 states, "Behold, The Virgin shall be with child and shall bear a son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which translated means, "GOD with us."
The Bible says in John 4:24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."
The Bible says that Jesus was God and was spirit before He took on flesh, Hebrews 2:14 “Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil.”
Colossians 1:16-17 says about Jesus, “For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.”
Zechariah 12:1 “Thus declares the LORD who stretches out the heavens, lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him.”
Another Scripture that is even more condemning of the Mormon doctrine on Jesus can be found in Matthew 9:22; Mark 5:34; and Luke 8:48 which states, “But Jesus turning and seeing her said, "Daughter, take courage; your faith has made you well." At once the woman was made well.”
There is no way the LDS can explain how or why Jesus would call her ‘Daughter’ but, Biblical Scripture is explicit that Jesus is Holy God, same as the Father, and that this woman was His creation and that she had become His daughter by adoption based upon her saving faith.
Galatians 4:5 “So that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.”
The Bible refutes and exposes LDS doctrine and beliefs as unbiblical
Paul warned Christians about Mormonism almost 1800 years before about those who teach about a false god, another Jesus, a different spirit, and a different gospel.
2 Corinthians 11:3-4 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.
Mormons accuse Biblical Christians of creating arguments of strawmen against Mormonism which have no foundation in reality or the Bible, and then destroying those strawmen in argument with Biblical Scripture, thereby claiming to defeat Mormon beliefs.
The real Strawman, is the Mormon Jesus, He does not exist in reality and most certainly is not the same Jesus as the Biblical Jesus!