A difference of interpretation is what we have on this issue - and others.Confirmation and orders are not sacraments. Baptism is.
A difference of interpretation is what we have on this issue - and others.Confirmation and orders are not sacraments. Baptism is.
A difference of interpretation is what we have on this issue - and others.
Very true, especially about what constitutes a Sacrament. But the Bible is plain about how we are saved to eternal life in heaven--by grace through faith in Christ Jesus our Lord and NOT by works, so no one will be able to boast.A difference of interpretation is what we have on this issue - and others.
It is true, I didn't read the Bible until after I became a Lutheran when my folks joined my church when I was 8. But I did have my Egermeier's Bible story book I got for my birthday when I was little and read from cover to cover, and could plainly see in the NT part that it is faith in Jesus Christ that saves us. Long before I was catechized in my church at age 12-13.Please, you just didn't open up the Bible for the first time and magically come up with what Luther came up with and then ran off and became a Lutheran.
Where is it written that Catholics do not worship God in the CCC, dogma, or any other, papal encyclicals, bulls, etc.? And where is it written that in Scripture that honor is not due to the Saints and prelates? In short, where does Catholicism contradict the Bible in what she teaches.The Rcc's interpretation is anything that will justify what the bible says NOT to do. The bible explicitly says to worship God only. But the Rcc doesn't like this. The Rcc, wants to follow the world's ancient traditions, of pagan idol worship; that God said was unacceptable to Him. The roman emporer's never fully extradited their pagan beliefs, but added a form of Christianity to all their other beliefs and practices.
To do this, they simply replaced the names of pagan gods and pagan goddesses, with names and words that would appeal to Christians during rome's empire.
Rc's disagree with nonRc's because simply putting faith and trust in Jesus, like the bible instructs us to do, requires that you give up mary, saint, angel and dead people worship as well as all the rituals that put your faith in anything but in what God has said we are to do.
The Rcc puts a lot of focus on good works, but even atheists who do not believe there is a living God, do good works, and are kind and loving to other people, and yet the bible says they will not get into heaven. Why, because our works count for nothing.
Eating flesh and blood is NOT what God said is the way to eternal life. This ritual says, "Jesus is here inside this wafer, and as I chew, becomes inside of me". Even the demon's know that much and shudder at the name of Jesus. Just knowing that "God exists and Jesus is here inside the wafer and wine" will not assure you of eternal life. If this was all we needed to have eternal life, then there would have been no need of Jesus to die on the cross.
Believing in the Eucharist ritual to save you, instead of what God has said is the way to be assured of eternal life. Makes what the apostles taught in their lifetime null and void. Rc's put a lot of faith in Peter, but they don't believe the message he preached, first to the Jews, then to the gentiles.
Rc's flat out don't believe what Peter preached. For on the day of pentecost, he preached faith in Jesus as the ONLY way to God and eternal life.
And where is it written that in Scripture that honor is not due to the Saints and prelates?
Bonnie said:
No. Biblical Christianity began at Pentecost. Luther and a few others before him rediscovered the true Gospel in the Bible, which the CC had buried under a ton-of man-made doctrines for umpteen centuries. But by the grace of God, Luther found it, anyway.
The Bible.
i don't read anything like that in Bonnie's post above. where'd you come up with that?Misfit said: - Please, you just didn't open up the Bible for the first time and magically come up with what Luther came up with and then ran off and became a Lutheran.
Whatever your perception is Catholics do not worship Saints. However, honor is due certain individuals which we recognize as due a certain honor. [Cf. Matthew 10:4; Romans 13:7; Hebrews 13:24; Philippians 4:8-9]There is no Scripture anywhere that hints, or teaches us to pray TO saints or give them the honor that belongs to God alone. It wasn't done by the apostles and they didn't teach it. As a matter of fact they told people to NOT worship them, worship God only.
The bible explicitly says to worship God only.
that you pray to them is evidence you worship them and that you don't obey His word. Who does God's word tell us to pray to?Whatever your perception is Catholics do not worship Saints. However, honor is due certain individuals which we recognize as due a certain honor. [Cf. Matthew 10:4; Romans 13:7; Hebrews 13:24; Philippians 4:8-9]
We know our prayers reach these Saints from Scripture. [Cf. Apocalypse 5:8]
JoeT
Whatever your perception is Catholics do not worship Saints. However, honor is due certain individuals which we recognize as due a certain honor. [Cf. Matthew 10:4; Romans 13:7; Hebrews 13:24; Philippians 4:8-9]
We know our prayers reach these Saints from Scripture. [Cf. Apocalypse 5:8]
JoeT