The Power of President Trump's Endorsement

Thistle

Well-known member

The Power of President Trump's Endorsement​

COMMENTARY​


An old campaign adage argued that political endorsements often aren’t worth the paper they are printed on, and until President Donald J. Trump, they were right. Now the most important political asset any Republican candidate could earn is the Trump endorsement, and how he’s using it will continue to reshape the Republican Party and freeze the 2024 field.

We have all watched as past Republican presidents fade into obscurity after departing the Oval Office. In most cases, their departures from D.C. marked the conclusion of their political ambition after weathering the arrows of the White House press corps. In each case, except for Ronald Reagan, their endorsements are seldom sought and matter little.

Just think of the irony, as George P. Bush actively worked to earn President Trump’s endorsement for Texas attorney general. George P., son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and grandson of former President George H.W. Bush, stayed very close to President Trump in his public comments, and came to realize that his family connection and own accomplishments as the current Texas land commissioner weren’t enough in the era of Trump. While Trump ultimately backed incumbent AG Ken Paxton (pictured, at left) for reelection, it illustrated that in today’s Republican Party, there is only one lane: the Trump lane.

That’s why it came as little surprise when news broke late Thursday night that Congressman Anthony Gonzalez — one of the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach President Trump — announced he would not seek reelection. He was being beaten badly in the polls by Max Miller, his Trump-endorsed challenger, and he recognized there was no viable path to victory.

President Trump’s success and influence continues to defy the political norms of the corrupt political class and, in doing so, he has established an unprecedented level of political influence.

So far in 2021, President Trump’s endorsement record in Republican elections is 10-0. Six of those victories were in competitive elections to lead the national and state Republican parties.

Another victory came in the Republican primary to lead Staten Island, N.Y., as borough president. Less than 72 hours before polls closed, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella, a former congressman, who was running against a formidable opponent, the minority leader of the New York City Council. The minority leader campaigned with every major endorsement in Staten Island: the local Republican Party, the police and trade unions, municipal politicians. But, on the Saturday before the Tuesday election, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella — and Vito won.

In 2020, 120 of the 122 candidates President Trump endorsed in congressional primary elections won, and the two who didn’t, lost to candidates who successfully ran campaigns by arguing they were more “Trump” than their opponents. Moreover, their opponents failed to properly educate voters of their Trump endorsement.

In the 2020 Senate primaries, President Trump was undefeated: 21-0.

During his own reelection campaign, President Trump extensively campaigned for the entire Republican ticket, leading over 50 “tele-rallies” and audio endorsements for congressional candidates and issuing hundreds of endorsements for candidates up and down GOP tickets — not to mention all the rallies that provided a platform to candidates to be in front of mega crowds that only President Trump can attract.

President Trump’s success in crucial swing states like North Carolina and Iowa led to the victories for Sens. Thom Tillis and Joni Ernst. In the House, political pundits predicted Republicans would lose 15, 20, or 30 seats. Instead, House Republicans won 26 of 26 “tossup” races. And, for the first time in decades, zero House incumbents lost — many of whom campaigned with the endorsement of President Trump.

It also should be noted that it is not just the fact that President Trump can pick candidates out of obscurity and sweep them into office. He has shown an ability and willingness to encourage party unity — even when dealing with prominent Republicans who were not behind him in 2016. Sens. Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell could have been extremely vulnerable if Trump had not come forward and endorsed them. President Trump did not want to divert time and resources in red states, so he made the extra effort to try and unify the party.

Sadly, as we saw in too many cases, that establishment Republicans and RINOs, who lobbied hard for a Trump endorsement, eventually put their political standing in D.C. ahead of the MAGA movement and the conservative policies that activists have been working toward for decades.

This cycle, senators, governors, congressmen, and even billionaires and titans of industry have flocked to the president’s Bedminster and Palm Beach properties, asking for his support and raising money. Ask any donor in the country: Those are the fundraisers they want to attend — even if the president is not in attendance.

In Ohio and Arizona, where Senate candidates J.D. Vance and Blake Masters are backed by super PACs with over $10 million, they both are still aggressively positioning for the Trump endorsement. They rightfully recognize all the money in the world can’t overcome the political power of President Donald J. Trump and the MAGA movement. In fact, in the Trump era, campaign war chests are not as important as being seen as central to America First.

However, the power and demand for the Trump endorsement is not the only sign that affirms President Trump’s political power. He also maintains a unique ability to weave his political influence together with the fact that he earned great respect for his policies and overall record as our president.

On Sept. 11, while politicians assembled at Ground Zero at a heavily restricted ceremony with throngs of media in tow, President Donald J. Trump honored the day by visiting a firehouse and police precinct. He delivered two beautiful speeches and answered questions directly from the firefighters and police officers in attendance.

It wasn’t glitzy, he didn’t send out a media advisory or set up a big production, but instead he engaged directly with those who came together to honor the sacrifice of their loved ones who were lost on Sept. 11, 2001. The viral moments that were captured embodied Donald J. Trump the New Yorker — a real man who loves his city and the people who wake up every day to keep it safe. This was quintessential Donald Trump.

President Donald J. Trump is not just the 45th president of the United States and he is not just the leader of the Republican Party. He continues to embody everything that makes America great, and that’s why he remains the most powerful force in American politics — and it’s why if he decides to run in 2024, he stands to make history by winning again.


Underestimating Donald Trump turned out to be a terrible strategy in 2016 I wonder how things will go in 2024?
 

Faithoverbelief

Well-known member

The Power of President Trump's Endorsement​

COMMENTARY​


An old campaign adage argued that political endorsements often aren’t worth the paper they are printed on, and until President Donald J. Trump, they were right. Now the most important political asset any Republican candidate could earn is the Trump endorsement, and how he’s using it will continue to reshape the Republican Party and freeze the 2024 field.

We have all watched as past Republican presidents fade into obscurity after departing the Oval Office. In most cases, their departures from D.C. marked the conclusion of their political ambition after weathering the arrows of the White House press corps. In each case, except for Ronald Reagan, their endorsements are seldom sought and matter little.

Just think of the irony, as George P. Bush actively worked to earn President Trump’s endorsement for Texas attorney general. George P., son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and grandson of former President George H.W. Bush, stayed very close to President Trump in his public comments, and came to realize that his family connection and own accomplishments as the current Texas land commissioner weren’t enough in the era of Trump. While Trump ultimately backed incumbent AG Ken Paxton (pictured, at left) for reelection, it illustrated that in today’s Republican Party, there is only one lane: the Trump lane.

That’s why it came as little surprise when news broke late Thursday night that Congressman Anthony Gonzalez — one of the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach President Trump — announced he would not seek reelection. He was being beaten badly in the polls by Max Miller, his Trump-endorsed challenger, and he recognized there was no viable path to victory.

President Trump’s success and influence continues to defy the political norms of the corrupt political class and, in doing so, he has established an unprecedented level of political influence.

So far in 2021, President Trump’s endorsement record in Republican elections is 10-0. Six of those victories were in competitive elections to lead the national and state Republican parties.

Another victory came in the Republican primary to lead Staten Island, N.Y., as borough president. Less than 72 hours before polls closed, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella, a former congressman, who was running against a formidable opponent, the minority leader of the New York City Council. The minority leader campaigned with every major endorsement in Staten Island: the local Republican Party, the police and trade unions, municipal politicians. But, on the Saturday before the Tuesday election, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella — and Vito won.

In 2020, 120 of the 122 candidates President Trump endorsed in congressional primary elections won, and the two who didn’t, lost to candidates who successfully ran campaigns by arguing they were more “Trump” than their opponents. Moreover, their opponents failed to properly educate voters of their Trump endorsement.

In the 2020 Senate primaries, President Trump was undefeated: 21-0.

During his own reelection campaign, President Trump extensively campaigned for the entire Republican ticket, leading over 50 “tele-rallies” and audio endorsements for congressional candidates and issuing hundreds of endorsements for candidates up and down GOP tickets — not to mention all the rallies that provided a platform to candidates to be in front of mega crowds that only President Trump can attract.

President Trump’s success in crucial swing states like North Carolina and Iowa led to the victories for Sens. Thom Tillis and Joni Ernst. In the House, political pundits predicted Republicans would lose 15, 20, or 30 seats. Instead, House Republicans won 26 of 26 “tossup” races. And, for the first time in decades, zero House incumbents lost — many of whom campaigned with the endorsement of President Trump.

It also should be noted that it is not just the fact that President Trump can pick candidates out of obscurity and sweep them into office. He has shown an ability and willingness to encourage party unity — even when dealing with prominent Republicans who were not behind him in 2016. Sens. Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell could have been extremely vulnerable if Trump had not come forward and endorsed them. President Trump did not want to divert time and resources in red states, so he made the extra effort to try and unify the party.

Sadly, as we saw in too many cases, that establishment Republicans and RINOs, who lobbied hard for a Trump endorsement, eventually put their political standing in D.C. ahead of the MAGA movement and the conservative policies that activists have been working toward for decades.

This cycle, senators, governors, congressmen, and even billionaires and titans of industry have flocked to the president’s Bedminster and Palm Beach properties, asking for his support and raising money. Ask any donor in the country: Those are the fundraisers they want to attend — even if the president is not in attendance.

In Ohio and Arizona, where Senate candidates J.D. Vance and Blake Masters are backed by super PACs with over $10 million, they both are still aggressively positioning for the Trump endorsement. They rightfully recognize all the money in the world can’t overcome the political power of President Donald J. Trump and the MAGA movement. In fact, in the Trump era, campaign war chests are not as important as being seen as central to America First.

However, the power and demand for the Trump endorsement is not the only sign that affirms President Trump’s political power. He also maintains a unique ability to weave his political influence together with the fact that he earned great respect for his policies and overall record as our president.

On Sept. 11, while politicians assembled at Ground Zero at a heavily restricted ceremony with throngs of media in tow, President Donald J. Trump honored the day by visiting a firehouse and police precinct. He delivered two beautiful speeches and answered questions directly from the firefighters and police officers in attendance.

It wasn’t glitzy, he didn’t send out a media advisory or set up a big production, but instead he engaged directly with those who came together to honor the sacrifice of their loved ones who were lost on Sept. 11, 2001. The viral moments that were captured embodied Donald J. Trump the New Yorker — a real man who loves his city and the people who wake up every day to keep it safe. This was quintessential Donald Trump.

President Donald J. Trump is not just the 45th president of the United States and he is not just the leader of the Republican Party. He continues to embody everything that makes America great, and that’s why he remains the most powerful force in American politics — and it’s why if he decides to run in 2024, he stands to make history by winning again.


Underestimating Donald Trump turned out to be a terrible strategy in 2016 I wonder how things will go in 2024?
I am going on the record for anyone here to hold me accountable. Trump will NOT be the candidate for 2024. Desantis is going to take it from him. If anyone thinks Mitch McConnell is going to be thwarted by Trump they are sadly mistaken. Trump will be used then discarded.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
I am going on the record for anyone here to hold me accountable. Trump will NOT be the candidate for 2024. Desantis is going to take it from him.
Possibly, I had a similar feeling in 2016 about Cruz.
If anyone thinks Mitch McConnell is going to be thwarted by Trump they are sadly mistaken.
It is easy to under estimate the sheer power of guile and wickedness.
Trump will be used then discarded.
That's just what the news media thought in 2016. They were absolutely convinced they were guaranteeing the doom of the Republican Parties electoriel chances by giving Donald Trump all the exposure they possibly could.
 

vibise

Well-known member

The Power of President Trump's Endorsement​

COMMENTARY​


An old campaign adage argued that political endorsements often aren’t worth the paper they are printed on, and until President Donald J. Trump, they were right. Now the most important political asset any Republican candidate could earn is the Trump endorsement, and how he’s using it will continue to reshape the Republican Party and freeze the 2024 field.

We have all watched as past Republican presidents fade into obscurity after departing the Oval Office. In most cases, their departures from D.C. marked the conclusion of their political ambition after weathering the arrows of the White House press corps. In each case, except for Ronald Reagan, their endorsements are seldom sought and matter little.

Just think of the irony, as George P. Bush actively worked to earn President Trump’s endorsement for Texas attorney general. George P., son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and grandson of former President George H.W. Bush, stayed very close to President Trump in his public comments, and came to realize that his family connection and own accomplishments as the current Texas land commissioner weren’t enough in the era of Trump. While Trump ultimately backed incumbent AG Ken Paxton (pictured, at left) for reelection, it illustrated that in today’s Republican Party, there is only one lane: the Trump lane.

That’s why it came as little surprise when news broke late Thursday night that Congressman Anthony Gonzalez — one of the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach President Trump — announced he would not seek reelection. He was being beaten badly in the polls by Max Miller, his Trump-endorsed challenger, and he recognized there was no viable path to victory.

President Trump’s success and influence continues to defy the political norms of the corrupt political class and, in doing so, he has established an unprecedented level of political influence.

So far in 2021, President Trump’s endorsement record in Republican elections is 10-0. Six of those victories were in competitive elections to lead the national and state Republican parties.

Another victory came in the Republican primary to lead Staten Island, N.Y., as borough president. Less than 72 hours before polls closed, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella, a former congressman, who was running against a formidable opponent, the minority leader of the New York City Council. The minority leader campaigned with every major endorsement in Staten Island: the local Republican Party, the police and trade unions, municipal politicians. But, on the Saturday before the Tuesday election, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella — and Vito won.

In 2020, 120 of the 122 candidates President Trump endorsed in congressional primary elections won, and the two who didn’t, lost to candidates who successfully ran campaigns by arguing they were more “Trump” than their opponents. Moreover, their opponents failed to properly educate voters of their Trump endorsement.

In the 2020 Senate primaries, President Trump was undefeated: 21-0.

During his own reelection campaign, President Trump extensively campaigned for the entire Republican ticket, leading over 50 “tele-rallies” and audio endorsements for congressional candidates and issuing hundreds of endorsements for candidates up and down GOP tickets — not to mention all the rallies that provided a platform to candidates to be in front of mega crowds that only President Trump can attract.

President Trump’s success in crucial swing states like North Carolina and Iowa led to the victories for Sens. Thom Tillis and Joni Ernst. In the House, political pundits predicted Republicans would lose 15, 20, or 30 seats. Instead, House Republicans won 26 of 26 “tossup” races. And, for the first time in decades, zero House incumbents lost — many of whom campaigned with the endorsement of President Trump.

It also should be noted that it is not just the fact that President Trump can pick candidates out of obscurity and sweep them into office. He has shown an ability and willingness to encourage party unity — even when dealing with prominent Republicans who were not behind him in 2016. Sens. Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell could have been extremely vulnerable if Trump had not come forward and endorsed them. President Trump did not want to divert time and resources in red states, so he made the extra effort to try and unify the party.

Sadly, as we saw in too many cases, that establishment Republicans and RINOs, who lobbied hard for a Trump endorsement, eventually put their political standing in D.C. ahead of the MAGA movement and the conservative policies that activists have been working toward for decades.

This cycle, senators, governors, congressmen, and even billionaires and titans of industry have flocked to the president’s Bedminster and Palm Beach properties, asking for his support and raising money. Ask any donor in the country: Those are the fundraisers they want to attend — even if the president is not in attendance.

In Ohio and Arizona, where Senate candidates J.D. Vance and Blake Masters are backed by super PACs with over $10 million, they both are still aggressively positioning for the Trump endorsement. They rightfully recognize all the money in the world can’t overcome the political power of President Donald J. Trump and the MAGA movement. In fact, in the Trump era, campaign war chests are not as important as being seen as central to America First.

However, the power and demand for the Trump endorsement is not the only sign that affirms President Trump’s political power. He also maintains a unique ability to weave his political influence together with the fact that he earned great respect for his policies and overall record as our president.

On Sept. 11, while politicians assembled at Ground Zero at a heavily restricted ceremony with throngs of media in tow, President Donald J. Trump honored the day by visiting a firehouse and police precinct. He delivered two beautiful speeches and answered questions directly from the firefighters and police officers in attendance.

It wasn’t glitzy, he didn’t send out a media advisory or set up a big production, but instead he engaged directly with those who came together to honor the sacrifice of their loved ones who were lost on Sept. 11, 2001. The viral moments that were captured embodied Donald J. Trump the New Yorker — a real man who loves his city and the people who wake up every day to keep it safe. This was quintessential Donald Trump.

President Donald J. Trump is not just the 45th president of the United States and he is not just the leader of the Republican Party. He continues to embody everything that makes America great, and that’s why he remains the most powerful force in American politics — and it’s why if he decides to run in 2024, he stands to make history by winning again.


Underestimating Donald Trump turned out to be a terrible strategy in 2016 I wonder how things will go in 2024?
Thank you for this!

Other posters have criticized me when I have pointed out that Trump remains a significant force in the Republican party and in RW politics. These other posters claim I have TDS, and am somehow divorced from reality.

You have clearly argued that Trump is head of the GOP and that he is and will be a king-maker going forward. That he is the political and ideological head of the GOP and conservatives in general.

I hope those other posters read this and comment.
 

vibise

Well-known member
I am going on the record for anyone here to hold me accountable. Trump will NOT be the candidate for 2024. Desantis is going to take it from him. If anyone thinks Mitch McConnell is going to be thwarted by Trump they are sadly mistaken. Trump will be used then discarded.
Depends on the number of dead Floridians.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
Thank you for this!

Other posters have criticized me when I have pointed out that Trump remains a significant force in the Republican party and in RW politics. These other posters claim I have TDS, and am somehow divorced from reality.

You have clearly argued that Trump is head of the GOP and that he is and will be a king-maker going forward. That he is the political and ideological head of the GOP and conservatives in general.

I hope those other posters read this and comment.
It is so much fun when Trump gives the ruling class the heebee jibbies
 

vibise

Well-known member
It is so much fun when Trump gives the ruling class the heebee jibbies
Who has the heebie jeebies? I am delighted that the RW acknowledges that Trump is their leader despite the fact that he is out of office. I have been criticized for saying that, so it is nice to be vindicated.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
Who has the heebie jeebies? I am delighted that the RW acknowledges that Trump is their leader despite the fact that he is out of office. I have been criticized for saying that, so it is nice to be vindicated.
The left is so afraid of Trump. You can barely go by one day without mentioning his name. I enjoy your concern.
 

Backup

Well-known member

The Power of President Trump's Endorsement​

COMMENTARY​


An old campaign adage argued that political endorsements often aren’t worth the paper they are printed on, and until President Donald J. Trump, they were right. Now the most important political asset any Republican candidate could earn is the Trump endorsement, and how he’s using it will continue to reshape the Republican Party and freeze the 2024 field.

We have all watched as past Republican presidents fade into obscurity after departing the Oval Office. In most cases, their departures from D.C. marked the conclusion of their political ambition after weathering the arrows of the White House press corps. In each case, except for Ronald Reagan, their endorsements are seldom sought and matter little.

Just think of the irony, as George P. Bush actively worked to earn President Trump’s endorsement for Texas attorney general. George P., son of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and grandson of former President George H.W. Bush, stayed very close to President Trump in his public comments, and came to realize that his family connection and own accomplishments as the current Texas land commissioner weren’t enough in the era of Trump. While Trump ultimately backed incumbent AG Ken Paxton (pictured, at left) for reelection, it illustrated that in today’s Republican Party, there is only one lane: the Trump lane.

That’s why it came as little surprise when news broke late Thursday night that Congressman Anthony Gonzalez — one of the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach President Trump — announced he would not seek reelection. He was being beaten badly in the polls by Max Miller, his Trump-endorsed challenger, and he recognized there was no viable path to victory.

President Trump’s success and influence continues to defy the political norms of the corrupt political class and, in doing so, he has established an unprecedented level of political influence.

So far in 2021, President Trump’s endorsement record in Republican elections is 10-0. Six of those victories were in competitive elections to lead the national and state Republican parties.

Another victory came in the Republican primary to lead Staten Island, N.Y., as borough president. Less than 72 hours before polls closed, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella, a former congressman, who was running against a formidable opponent, the minority leader of the New York City Council. The minority leader campaigned with every major endorsement in Staten Island: the local Republican Party, the police and trade unions, municipal politicians. But, on the Saturday before the Tuesday election, President Trump endorsed Vito Fossella — and Vito won.

In 2020, 120 of the 122 candidates President Trump endorsed in congressional primary elections won, and the two who didn’t, lost to candidates who successfully ran campaigns by arguing they were more “Trump” than their opponents. Moreover, their opponents failed to properly educate voters of their Trump endorsement.

In the 2020 Senate primaries, President Trump was undefeated: 21-0.

During his own reelection campaign, President Trump extensively campaigned for the entire Republican ticket, leading over 50 “tele-rallies” and audio endorsements for congressional candidates and issuing hundreds of endorsements for candidates up and down GOP tickets — not to mention all the rallies that provided a platform to candidates to be in front of mega crowds that only President Trump can attract.

President Trump’s success in crucial swing states like North Carolina and Iowa led to the victories for Sens. Thom Tillis and Joni Ernst. In the House, political pundits predicted Republicans would lose 15, 20, or 30 seats. Instead, House Republicans won 26 of 26 “tossup” races. And, for the first time in decades, zero House incumbents lost — many of whom campaigned with the endorsement of President Trump.

It also should be noted that it is not just the fact that President Trump can pick candidates out of obscurity and sweep them into office. He has shown an ability and willingness to encourage party unity — even when dealing with prominent Republicans who were not behind him in 2016. Sens. Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell could have been extremely vulnerable if Trump had not come forward and endorsed them. President Trump did not want to divert time and resources in red states, so he made the extra effort to try and unify the party.

Sadly, as we saw in too many cases, that establishment Republicans and RINOs, who lobbied hard for a Trump endorsement, eventually put their political standing in D.C. ahead of the MAGA movement and the conservative policies that activists have been working toward for decades.

This cycle, senators, governors, congressmen, and even billionaires and titans of industry have flocked to the president’s Bedminster and Palm Beach properties, asking for his support and raising money. Ask any donor in the country: Those are the fundraisers they want to attend — even if the president is not in attendance.

In Ohio and Arizona, where Senate candidates J.D. Vance and Blake Masters are backed by super PACs with over $10 million, they both are still aggressively positioning for the Trump endorsement. They rightfully recognize all the money in the world can’t overcome the political power of President Donald J. Trump and the MAGA movement. In fact, in the Trump era, campaign war chests are not as important as being seen as central to America First.

However, the power and demand for the Trump endorsement is not the only sign that affirms President Trump’s political power. He also maintains a unique ability to weave his political influence together with the fact that he earned great respect for his policies and overall record as our president.

On Sept. 11, while politicians assembled at Ground Zero at a heavily restricted ceremony with throngs of media in tow, President Donald J. Trump honored the day by visiting a firehouse and police precinct. He delivered two beautiful speeches and answered questions directly from the firefighters and police officers in attendance.

It wasn’t glitzy, he didn’t send out a media advisory or set up a big production, but instead he engaged directly with those who came together to honor the sacrifice of their loved ones who were lost on Sept. 11, 2001. The viral moments that were captured embodied Donald J. Trump the New Yorker — a real man who loves his city and the people who wake up every day to keep it safe. This was quintessential Donald Trump.

President Donald J. Trump is not just the 45th president of the United States and he is not just the leader of the Republican Party. He continues to embody everything that makes America great, and that’s why he remains the most powerful force in American politics — and it’s why if he decides to run in 2024, he stands to make history by winning again.


Underestimating Donald Trump turned out to be a terrible strategy in 2016 I wonder how things will go in 2024?
No one is denying Trumpism is a cult.

Still, Republicans keep losing all competitive elections.
 

Faithoverbelief

Well-known member
Possibly, I had a similar feeling in 2016 about Cruz.

It is easy to under estimate the sheer power of guile and wickedness.

That's just what the news media thought in 2016. They were absolutely convinced they were guaranteeing the doom of the Republican Parties electoriel chances by giving Donald Trump all the exposure they possibly could.
In 2016 I thought Trump would win. Too much baggage with Hillary. Yep McConnell is a slippery snake and holds a lot of power and has years of experience.

Sometimes the media is not very bright but I will be surprised if the party holds on to Trump. Too much baggage like Hillary. McConnell is just waiting to rip the carpet from under Trump.

I guess we'll see what happens, always fun to try and predict.
 

vibise

Well-known member
The left is so afraid of Trump. You can barely go by one day without mentioning his name. I enjoy your concern.
Until today, I have been told that I am imagining that Trump has any hold on the GOP and on the base of people that voted for him.

I am vindicated by this thread in that I was right!
 

Thistle

Well-known member
Thank you for this!

Other posters have criticized me when I have pointed out that Trump remains a significant force in the Republican party and in RW politics. These other posters claim I have TDS, and am somehow divorced from reality.
Well, I have to agree with you about that.
You have clearly argued that Trump is head of the GOP and that he is and will be a king-maker going forward. That he is the political and ideological head of the GOP and conservatives in general.
This is certainly true respecting the attitudes of Republican voters. That relevance comes from the fact that many Republicans voters are deeply dissatisfied with other Republican leaders. One of the first things that Donald Trump did was expose their total hypocrisy on the issue of Obamacare. Trump saw this is a simple policy issue. We told the voters we would get rid of it. Republicans who had voted to repeal Obamacare multiple times refused under Trumps pressure. Republican voters took note that if it were up to Trump Obamacare would've been revealed but it was Republican so they prevented it. They don't like somebody coming along and proving their hypocrisy.
I hope those other posters read this and comment.
My daughter works for the writer of this editorial.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
In 2016 I thought Trump would win. Too much baggage with Hillary. Yep McConnell is a slippery snake and holds a lot of power and has years of experience.

Sometimes the media is not very bright but I will be surprised if the party holds on to Trump. Too much baggage like Hillary. McConnell is just waiting to rip the carpet from under Trump.

I guess we'll see what happens, always fun to try and predict.
I see exactly zero baggage with Trump. People not liking his personality, or tweets, his public comportment, I don't think that really qualifies as baggage. What I do see a lot of people attacking him with vicious, despicable, mean spirited lies. But that doesn't qualify as baggage either.
 

vibise

Well-known member
Well, I have to agree with you about that.

This is certainly true respecting the attitudes of Republican voters. That relevance comes from the fact that many Republicans voters are deeply dissatisfied with other Republican leaders. One of the first things that Donald Trump did was expose their total hypocrisy on the issue of Obamacare. Trump saw this is a simple policy issue. We told the voters we would get rid of it. Republicans who had voted to repeal Obamacare multiple times refused under Trumps pressure. Republican voters took note that if it were up to Trump Obamacare would've been revealed but it was Republican so they prevented it. They don't like somebody coming along and proving their hypocrisy.

My daughter works for the writer of this editorial.
Obamacare was not a simple issue. The fact is that Trump and the Republicans had no replacement plan at the ready or even in the planning stages, and repealing it without some sort of substitute would have been cruel and disastrous.
 

vibise

Well-known member
I see exactly zero baggage with Trump. People not liking his personality, or tweets, his public comportment, I don't think that really qualifies as baggage. What I do see a lot of people attacking him with vicious, despicable, mean spirited lies. But that doesn't qualify as baggage either.
Trump is an evil, corrupt man who has regularly cheated others, including investors, employees, contractors, customers. He has been charged with assault and harassment by several dozen women. He lies repeatedly. He has no respect for norms or laws and could not be bothered doing the job of POTUS. He downplayed the covid pandemic, and many died as a result. He has tried to overthrow the 2020 election and is working hard to make sure that Republicans don't lose, even if they actually get fewer votes.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
Obamacare was not a simple issue. The fact is that Trump and the Republicans had no replacement plan at the ready or even in the planning stages, and repealing it without some sort of substitute would have been cruel and disastrous.
The fact that Trump believed that the Republican Party was serious about replacing Obamacare with a well-thought-out alternative is exactly the kind of mistake that someone who has never been in political office could very understandably make. If you just follow the Republican Party rhetoric as they talked about Obamacare it would not occur to you that they weren't actually formulating an alternative. And that's a little bit too much to say. The people who did have alternatives we're not being consulted or even being paid attention to.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
Trump is an evil, corrupt man who has regularly cheated others, including investors, employees, contractors, customers.
Apparently you've swallowed every bit of demagoguery that was ever published about him.
He has been charged with assault and harassment by several dozen women.
I really didn't see anything that struck me as credible along those lines that apply to Trump, but certainly the charges against Joe Biden were astonishingly credible.
He lies repeatedly.
Every bit of hyperbole and puffery and sensationalism the Trump uttered, which is his normal mode communication was recast by a despicably vicious press as a lie. That is fundamentally corrupt. Anybody can listen to him for five minutes and unpack his mode communication, and distinguish what he's doing from lies easily, a five years to do this.
He has no respect for norms or laws and could not be bothered doing the job of POTUS.
He didn't violate any laws and he's the most productive president in my lifetime. You cannot argue that Ronald Reagan was but it's very close.
He downplayed the covid pandemic, and many died as a result.
He shut the borders when other people were calling him xenophobic namely Joe Biden. He put in place operation warp speed in a single-handedly responsible for vaccines showing up on that timeframe. This line of criticism is so far beyond insane I just don't understand how people can allow themselves to be associated with it.
He has tried to overthrow the 2020 election
No he didn't.
and is working hard to make sure that Republicans don't lose, even if they actually get fewer votes.
You need to familiarize yourself with our constitution.
 
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