The Reformedguy has a fixation on sheep with his persistent emphasis and talk about them. I wonder why?that sounds familiar- tulip, doctrines of grace, determinism etc.... all made up lol.
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The Reformedguy has a fixation on sheep with his persistent emphasis and talk about them. I wonder why?that sounds familiar- tulip, doctrines of grace, determinism etc.... all made up lol.
hope this helps !!!
So your answer is yes then? Christ is unable to keep some of His sheep and thereby loses them? Fails to save His people from their sins Matthew 1:23Sheep or not, a believer's part can be removed out of the Book of Life according to Rev 22:19:
Rev 22:19 "And if anyone takes away from the Words of the Book of this prophecy, God will take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book."
Also, there remains a possibility of one's name being blotted out of the Book of Life in Rev 3:5. Jesus is not in a habit of saying things he cannot do:
Rev 3:5 "The one who overcomes, this one will be clothed in white clothing. And I will not blot out his name out of the Book of Life, but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels."
Conclusion: the Reformed PofS crashes and burns.
I remember as a kid ( no pun intended ? ) being taught to count sheep ? to go to sleepThe Reformedguy has a fixation on sheep with his persistent emphasis and talk about them. I wonder why?
It should be obvious. You and yours refuse to answer a direct question. I wonder why?The Reformedguy has a fixation on sheep with his persistent emphasis and talk about them. I wonder why?
Does Christ lose some of His sheep?I remember as a kid ( no pun intended ? ) being taught to count sheep ? to go to sleep
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Just a side note I'd like to make about Eph 1:13 since we're looking at it. Notice that hearing and belief in the Gospel precede regeneration.
Eph 1:13 "in whom also you, hearing the Word of Truth, the gospel of our salvation, in whom also believing, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, "
It is one choosing that can be viewed two ways:
temporally and spiritually. Temporally, God chose us when we believed and were regenerated.
Spiritually, God chose us beyond time because He is not confined by time. To drive that point home, Paul declares that you were chosen by God (but only "in Christ") before the formation of the world.
Are you agreeing with Eph 1:13 where it says that people believe in the Gospel before they are regenerated?Of course you can not believe in something you haven't first "heard"...
The kind of man who:your problem is explaining how they came to believe it as something other than "foolishness". The naturalperson does not accept it because it is foolishness to them. If they believe it as the power and wisdom of God it is because they are something other than "natural".
What kind of person believes the "Word of Truth", as something other than foolishness, such that they do not contradict 2 Cor 2:14?
Nope. I said two views of the same one choosing. One view is temporal (within our confines of time) and another view is spiritual (where God is not confined by time).But then you contradict yourself...
When were you regenerated by God? Hint: Eph 1:13.That is "AFTER the foundation"...
If you don't understand the differences between temporal confines of time and the spiritual non-confines of time then you fall back into the untenable situation where you were at one time an unsaved "in Christ" anomaly or a not-yet-repented regenerated anomaly. And that hits hard against the Holiness of God.You can't have your cake and eat it too...
Are you agreeing with Eph 1:13 where it says that people believe in the Gospel before they are regenerated?
The kind of man who:
1) is not spiritually regenerated yet, and therefore cannot currently perceive spiritual things,
2) but nevertheless has been granted a conscience, a heart, and a mind by God (Rom 2:14-16),
3) and even made accountable to God's Gospel (Rom 2:16),
3) and is reachable by the power of the Holy Spirit's convicting ministry (John 16:7-15).
That kind of man is ψυχικὸς man who is transformed into a πνευματικὸς man when he believes and is regenerated by God.
Nope. I said two views of the same one choosing. One view is temporal (within our confines of time) and another view is spiritual (where God is not confined by time).
When were you regenerated by God? Hint: Eph 1:13.
If you don't understand the differences between temporal confines of time and the spiritual non-confines of time then you fall back into the untenable situation where you were at one time an unsaved "in Christ" anomaly or a not-yet-repented regenerated anomaly. And that hits hard against the Holiness of God.
Second of all, although the ψυχικὸς man is not a πνευματικὸς man yet and cannot discern spiritual things, he can still has the following God-given capabilities/responsibilities:You have "ψυχικὸς" person "believing the word of the cross" as something other than "folly" before he is "transformed into πνευματικὸς"
... which is in direct contradiction to 1 Cor 2:14 which states...
14 The natural ψυχικὸς does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and ψυχικὸς is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
You possess freewil to express childish frustrations in straw men.You possess the free will to consider critical thinking a "game" for you.
LOL ... What?Are you sure about that? Read Eph 1:13:
Eph 1:13 "in whom also you, hearing the Word of Truth, the gospel of our salvation, in whom also believing, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, "
Now ya got it. LOLMeticulously predetermined ad hominems
First of all, you skipped over my question:
Are you agreeing with Eph 1:13 where it says that people believe in the Gospelbefore they are regenerated?
Second of all, although the ψυχικὸς man is not a πνευματικὸς man yet and cannot discern spiritual things, he can still has the following God-given capabilities/responsibilities:
1) He has been granted a conscience, a heart, and a mind by God (Rom 2:14-16),
2) and even made accountable to God's Gospel (Rom 2:16),
3) and is reachable by the power of the Holy Spirit's convicting ministry (John 16:7-15).
Which Bible verse(s) do you have issues with?
In God's mind as he planned, purposed, and determined All Things "BEFORE the foundation of the world" that is being manifest now in the timeline of creation.
Why do you continue to insist that "temporal confines of time" is necessary in order for God to purpose (choose) you "BEFORE the foundation of the world"?
Because the Bible mentions both.Your system needs something "after" creation to determine God's actions "before" creation... why?