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DeSanto

Super Member
There is common sense. Then there is the craziness exhibited currently in the Trump camp, the bizarre witness statements, the forlorn Kraken debacle, the Four Seasons, Trump claiming he is the only one who likes cucumbers. If you think common sense is on your side, you are terminally bewildered.
I’m not and insulting people will not work. It just makes you look desperate.
 

Carol

Well-known member
We all saw the votes flip. These systems are fractionalizing our votes and it’s happened in other elections besides this one. We need to get to the bottom of it.


Because it’s obvious Trump had all the momentum and the media is all the corrupt gov has to prop up their lies.

I trust myself... and I know Biden didn’t get more votes than Obama.

It doesn’t reconcile.

All you need is common sense.

In my 64 years, I've come to the conclusion that sense is anything but common.
 

Temujin

Well-known member
I’m not and insulting people will not work. It just makes you look desperate.
I merely comment on what is happening. "Common sense" is not what is on offer from the Trump side. Instead there is folie a plusieurs. There is desperation I agree, but not on my side of the fence.
 

Furion

Well-known member
No, it doesn't hurt. I find the deranged screeching of disappointed TrumPets hilarious. It's amusing what they will sink to believing.

I'm not a "trumpet" so it's all good.

It hurts so bad you'll be complaining about Trump for a long while. :)

I am currently amused with the Bidenettes like you, and the things you have sunk to believing.
 

Backup

Well-known member
Mkay.

Let me just say this though... If Trump lost fairly, I will accept that. I just want to be able to trust our voting system is fair and accurate. I don’t.

The claims and allegations put forth deserve to be taken seriously and honestly investigated... just as you would expect if the shoe was on the other foot.

Show some respect.
no

Trump lost fairl, by a landslide, and you don’t accept it because you are a Trump Cultist.
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
Trump lost fairly, by a landslide, and you don’t accept it because you are a Trump Cultist.
This.

Those whining loudest about fake news read and spread fake news. Those whining loudest about voter fraud are attempting to commit voter fraud. Those whining the loudest about law and order have rejected law and order. Those whining loudest about a coup are attempting a coup.

Projection: a right-wing American value.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
We all saw the votes flip. These systems are fractionalizing our votes and it’s happened in other elections besides this one. We need to get to the bottom of it.
No, we didn't. No votes 'flipped'.
Because it’s obvious Trump had all the momentum and the media is all the corrupt gov has to prop up their lies.
It's neither obvious nor true.
I trust myself... and I know Biden didn’t get more votes than Obama.
No, you don't know that at all. Because it's false.
It doesn’t reconcile.

All you need is common sense.
All you need is to be a Trumpite.

Do you not notice that NOBODY but Trumpites think there was fraud. NO independent organisation thinks there was fraud. None.
 

DeSanto

Super Member
No, we didn't. No votes 'flipped'.
Votes flipped in Fla...

Votes flipped in PA...


Now you’ve seen it...

It's neither obvious nor true.
It’s true. And you know it. Trump rally’s are still bigger than anything Biden could ever pull out of his hat...
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That’s Georgia last night...
No, you don't know that at all. Because it's false.
There is no possible way Biden got more votes than Obama. No. How do you reconcile the fact that Trump got more support from black voters than any republican in history, but Biden got more votes than Obama????? It makes no sense dude. Wake up!
All you need is to be a Trumpite.
More insults. Disgusting. Smh.
Do you not notice that NOBODY but Trumpites think there was fraud. NO independent organisation thinks there was fraud. None.
Let’s ask GA Secretary of State what she thinks...

Oops! Wrong year.

Can we say... HYPOCRITE?
 
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Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Votes flipped in PA...


Now you’ve seen it...
Videos on twitter are no kind of evidence. As always, the question remains - if this is actually evidence, why hasn't it been submitted to a court? Because it's not evidence at all.
It’s true. And you know it. Trump rally’s are still bigger than anything Biden could ever pull out of his hat...
It's not true. Rallies are completely irrelevant. More people dislike Trump than like him. Repeated polls have shown that for most of the last four years. Polls this year have shown him at the lowest popularity ever. People voted with their feet.
There is no possible way Biden got more votes than Obama. No. How do you reconcile the fact that Trump got more support from black voters than any republican in history, but Biden got more votes than Obama????? It makes no sense dude. Wake up!
Of course there's a way. It happened. "I can't believe it!" is not evidence for fraud.
More insults. Disgusting. Smh.
There were no insults.
Let’s ask GA Secretary of State what she thinks...
Completely irrelevant.
Oops! Wrong year.

Can we say... HYPOCRITE?
You can say what you like, but it doesn't magically conjure up evidence.

That's what it always comes down to. Where's the evidence (not "I can't believe it!") and if it's actual evidence, why hasn't it been submitted to the place where it would do some good - the courts?
 

Beloved

Active member
I am not too happy about Biden as President but I will support him unless he comes up with something against the word of God. I think that will happen and is the main reason I dropped out as a Democrat in 1998, the 2nd term of Clinton because I felt he became a poor representation of that party. When they removed any mention of God from their party platform in 2008 I knew I had made the right move.

I think Biden is being used and I wonder how long before they will scrap him for Kamala Harris. When he chose the far far left person it will not be the Democratic Party I was in so long. The four members of Congress that she supports makes my skin crawl and I weep for the DNC.

I still vote but it's hard to find a candidate unless they are running for dog catcher. Even at that I will check them out. Don't ask me how I do that but I think I will start checking the pound to see if they have brought their dog in and left it.!!
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
I am not too happy about Biden as President but I will support him unless he comes up with something against the word of God.
So I'm guessing you never supported Trump? He was as against the word of God as I can imagine anybody being.
I think that will happen and is the main reason I dropped out as a Democrat in 1998, the 2nd term of Clinton because I felt he became a poor representation of that party. When they removed any mention of God from their party platform in 2008 I knew I had made the right move.
...except that they didn't actually do that.
I think Biden is being used and I wonder how long before they will scrap him for Kamala Harris. When he chose the far far left person it will not be the Democratic Party I was in so long. The four members of Congress that she supports makes my skin crawl and I weep for the DNC.
And we've been weeping for th GOP for years...especially for the last four.
 

DeSanto

Super Member
Videos on twitter are no kind of evidence.
As always, the question remains - if this is actually evidence, why hasn't it been submitted to a court? Because it's not evidence at all.
It's not true. Rallies are completely irrelevant. More people dislike Trump than like him. Repeated polls have shown that for most of the last four years. Polls this year have shown him at the lowest popularity ever. People voted with their feet.
Those are actual clips from cnn on election night. We all saw it... in real time! Viewing a clip of it on Twitter doesn’t change that. But you continue to tell us not to believe our lying eyes. That what we see with our own eyes isn’t true. You would rather trust the polling, which has already been proven to be wildly inaccurate in the last election. Skewed and politically motivated polls that can be manipulated... just like our votes were.
Of course there's a way. It happened. "I can't believe it!" is not evidence for fraud.
There were no insults.

Completely irrelevant.

You can say what you like, but it doesn't magically conjure up evidence.
Plugging your ears and closing your eyes while repeatedly claiming the brainwashed mantra “there’s no evidence of wide spread voter fraud” doesn’t make it so either.
That's what it always comes down to. Where's the evidence (not "I can't believe it!") and if it's actual evidence, why hasn't it been submitted to the place where it would do some good - the courts?
I don’t know that they haven’t.
 
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Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Those are actual clips from cnn on election night. We all saw it... in real time!
So what?
Viewing a clip of it on Twitter doesn’t change that. But you continue to tell us not to believe our lying eyes. That what we see with our own eyes isn’t true.
Nice try. What I have told you is not to believe clips (along with biased 'explanations') on youtube. What you THINK you see with your own eyes is often not true. That's why what is important is what is presented to the courts, where they can be examined, witnesses questioned, etc., and an unbiased conclusion arrived at.
You would rather trust the polling, which has already been proven to be wildly inaccurate in the last election.
Nope (again). I would rather trust the evidence as presented in courts of law, where the 'evidence' you claim has been repeatedly thrown out.

Skewed and politically motivated polls that can be manipulated... just like our votes were.
Unsupported an unevidenced.
Plugging your ears and closing your eyes while repeatedly claiming the brainwashed mantra “there’s no evidence of wide spread voter fraud” doesn’t make it so either.
Plugging your ears and closing your eyes while repeatedly claiming the brainwashed mantra "There's evidence of wide spread voter fraud" doesn't make it so.

Tell me, when did the brainwashing of every independent authority, of a bunch of Republican-appointed judges take place. Actually, when did the brainwashing of everybody except Trumpites take place? You realise that not a single independent authority agrees with the claims of the Trumpites? You realise that ONLY Trumpites are claiming fraud?
I don’t know that they haven’t.
Then you need to actually look at some news and learn.
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
If CNN is fake news, why are you trusting their description of states flipping for one candidate over the other?
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
The Trump cult wants to overrule the will of the people and their votes and put in an autocra.

Good thing Trump lost by a landslide and his worshipers are just delusional lunatic.
So are you a Bidet worship and praise leader? Delusional lunatics following a creepy Joe?
 

DeSanto

Super Member
If CNN is fake news, why are you trusting their description of states flipping for one candidate over the other?
They were not describing anything. Actually, they completely ignored it. But you could see it right there on live television. Trump lost thousands of votes in the blink of an eye.

Please explain how that happens???

But! Since you believe CNN is the “most trusted name in news,” why don’t you believe what they said...


Is it that it’s only true when it’s politically advantageous to your side? Or are we finally going to be able to talk about how they’ve been stealing elections for a looong time now? Both sides.
 
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