The Rosary

RayneBeau

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Make the Sign of the Cross.
Why are Roman Catholics trained to mindlessly make the robotic 'Sign of the Cross' on themselves - not just to begin saying the rosary, but before and after prayers, when genuflecting before entering a pew, before Mass begins, after taking communion, before and after giving a confession to an RC priest, upon kneeling before a statue, etc. Or, is it just a visual sign that many delusional and spiritually insecure Roman Catholics need to use indicating their own imagined idiotic illusion of religious superiority which they harbor in their own created ego-fed world of Roman Catholic superiority over other Roman Catholics, and especially over all non-Roman Catholics in their entirety, so they feel a need to sign themselves with a cross, in order to identify themselves as being a member of what they believe to be the world-wide superior Roman Catholic Church, feeling confident that others view them in the same way they view their "Church" and their own paranoid selves.
 
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RiJoRi

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Why are Roman Catholics trained to mindlessly make the robotic 'Sign of the Cross' on themselves - not just to begin saying the rosary, but before and after prayers, when genuflecting before entering a pew, before Mass begins, after taking communion, before and after giving a confession to an RC priest, upon kneeling before a statue, etc. Or, is it just a visual sign that many delusional and spiritually insecure Roman Catholics need to use indicating their own imagined idiotic illusion of religious superiority which they harbor in their own created ego-fed world of Roman Catholic superiority over other Roman Catholics, and especially over all non-Roman Catholics in their entirety, so they feel a need to sign themselves with a cross, in order to identify themselves as being a member of what they believe to be the world-wide superior Roman Catholic Church, feeling confident that others view them in the same way they view their "Church" and their own paranoid selves.
The sign of the cross was performed accompanied by the words, "In the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, amen." It was basically a rite that the "religious professionals" said that we should do, and so we did. "Why" we should do it may have been mentioned in pre-FHC (~7y.o.) classes, or pre-Confirmation (~14y.o.) classes, but never (AFAIK) thereafter. Christening, Confession, Communion, Confirmation, Matrimony, and Last Rites (including the crucifix with the paraphernalia for the rite) were all done because the religious professionals said that was what should be done, that this was what God wanted, and we Roman Catholics, having been brought up this way, simply said (in effect) "OK, you're the experts," and let it at that.

--Rich
 

balshan

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Why are Roman Catholics trained to mindlessly make the robotic 'Sign of the Cross' on themselves - not just to begin saying the rosary, but before and after prayers, when genuflecting before entering a pew, before Mass begins, after taking communion, before and after giving a confession to an RC priest, upon kneeling before a statue, etc. Or, is it just a visual sign that many delusional and spiritually insecure Roman Catholics need to use indicating their own imagined idiotic illusion of religious superiority which they harbor in their own created ego-fed world of Roman Catholic superiority over other Roman Catholics, and especially over all non-Roman Catholics in their entirety, so they feel a need to sign themselves with a cross, in order to identify themselves as being a member of what they believe to be the world-wide superior Roman Catholic Church, feeling confident that others view them in the same way they view their "Church" and their own paranoid selves.
So many things we were trained to mindlessly do - genuflect before going into the pews, making the sign of cross, saying the rosary, hitting ourselves on the chest the confitor, so many mindless things.
 

RiJoRi

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So many things we were trained to mindlessly do - genuflect before going into the pews, making the sign of cross, saying the rosary, hitting ourselves on the chest the confitor, so many mindless things.
😕 As in some forms of magic, it is the words and actions – performed in the right language, in the right order, at the right time – that is supposed to bring the desired results. 😲

(i may be wrong, but don't voodoo and Roman Catholicism co-exist nicely in Haiti?)

--Rich
 

balshan

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😕 As in some forms of magic, it is the words and actions – performed in the right language, in the right order, at the right time – that is supposed to bring the desired results. 😲

(i may be wrong, but don't voodoo and Roman Catholicism co-exist nicely in Haiti?)

--Rich
Well voodoo has a lot in common for a reason.



Vodou, also spelled Voodoo, Voudou, Vodun, or French Vaudou, a traditional Afro-Haitian religion. Vodou represents a syncretism of the West African Vodun religion and Roman Catholicism by the descendants of the Dahomean, Kongo, Youruba, and other ethnic groups who had been enslaved and transported to colonial Saint-Domingue (as Haiti was known then) and partly Christianized by Roman Catholic missionaries in the 16th and 17th centuries. The word Vodou means “spirit” or “deity” in the Fon language of the African kingdom of Dahomey (now Benin ).

From Britannica
 

Kerwyn

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Why are Roman Catholics trained to mindlessly make the robotic 'Sign of the Cross' on themselves - not just to begin saying the rosary, but before and after prayers, when genuflecting before entering a pew, before Mass begins, after taking communion, before and after giving a confession to an RC priest, upon kneeling before a statue, etc. Or, is it just a visual sign that many delusional and spiritually insecure Roman Catholics need to use indicating their own imagined idiotic illusion of religious superiority which they harbor in their own created ego-fed world of Roman Catholic superiority over other Roman Catholics, and especially over all non-Roman Catholics in their entirety, so they feel a need to sign themselves with a cross, in order to identify themselves as being a member of what they believe to be the world-wide superior Roman Catholic Church, feeling confident that others view them in the same way they view their "Church" and their own paranoid selves.
It is considered a sacramental:

1667 "Holy Mother Church has, moreover, instituted sacramentals. These are sacred signs which bear a resemblance to the sacraments. They signify effects, particularly of a spiritual nature, which are obtained through the intercession of the Church. By them men are disposed to receive the chief effect of the sacraments, and various occasions in life are rendered holy."

I'm not sure of how efficacious they are, though. Anyone would be better off by getting into God's word instead.
 

dingoling.

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This morning I was saying a Rosary for my sister who was doing a 5 hour car journey to be our family representative at an Aunty's funeral. A thought jumped into my mind. 'I wonder if the anti Catholics are right and that reciting repetitious prayers are pagan nonsense?' I barely thought that and Jesus and Mary enveloped me in assurance in a tangible way. Dear Jesus thankyou for never failing me in my hour of need.
The Rosary is one of the most powerful tools we have against the spiritual forces of darkness. God said that he was going to put enmity between Satan and the woman.
 

balshan

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The Rosary is one of the most powerful tools we have against the spiritual forces of darkness. God said that he was going to put enmity between Satan and the woman.
You are kidding. The rosary is one of the most powerful tools of Satan, it deceives many into a false sense of security. RCs do not trust the words of God but they do trust their works like saying the rosary. No the enemity is between God and Satan. Rcs believe ignorance is bliss IMO.
 

dingoling.

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You are kidding. The rosary is one of the most powerful tools of Satan, it deceives many into a false sense of security. RCs do not trust the words of God but they do trust their works like saying the rosary. No the enemity is between God and Satan. Rcs believe ignorance is bliss IMO.
Scripture says that God is going to put enmity between the serpent and the woman.
 

balshan

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So what is the statement about God putting enmity between Satan and the woman about?

Why does God even mention the woman?
Without a woman Jesus would not have been human. But Jesus is the one who crushes the serpents head, not the woman. You are reading into scripture false RC beliefs. You are forcing your views on scripture.
 

RayneBeau

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It is considered a sacramental:

1667 "Holy Mother Church has, moreover, instituted sacramentals. These are sacred signs which bear a resemblance to the sacraments. They signify effects, particularly of a spiritual nature, which are obtained through the intercession of the Church. By them men are disposed to receive the chief effect of the sacraments, and various occasions in life are rendered holy."

I'm not sure of how efficacious they are, though. Anyone would be better off by getting into God's word instead.
You are kidding. The rosary is one of the most powerful tools of Satan, it deceives many into a false sense of security. RCs do not trust the words of God but they do trust their works like saying the rosary. No the enemity is between God and Satan. Rcs believe ignorance is bliss IMO.
Oh yes, and if salt is blessed by a Roman Catholic priest, after a Mass is said, the blessed salt is then believed to protect the Roman Catholics house from burglary, if the blessed salt is sprinkled in every room. It was also said to sprinkle the salt around a car to keep it from being in an accident.
 

Grace

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The Rosary is one of the most powerful tools we have against the spiritual forces of darkness. God said that he was going to put enmity between Satan and the woman.
A tool given at the earliest 1200 years after Christ ascended into heaven and the death of the last apostle.

No one in the early church prayed the rosary. We do see the development of the Marian idolatry in the 3rd or 4th century but not from the early church at all.
 

dingoling.

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A tool given at the earliest 1200 years after Christ ascended into heaven and the death of the last apostle.

No one in the early church prayed the rosary. We do see the development of the Marian idolatry in the 3rd or 4th century but not from the early church at all.

Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would guide us into all the truth. Jesus didn't put a time limit on it.
 

dingoling.

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How can you rebuke doctrine using Scripture if there is truth outside of Scripture?

New Testament is God's word.

Scripture is God's word.

You don't have any other words from God other than what He inspired to be written.
The NT was added to scripture.

By what authority did Christians add these writings to scripture?

What word of God did Christians use to know the truth that these writings were the inspired word of God.
 

Grace

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The NT was added to scripture.

By what authority did Christians add these writings to scripture?

What word of God did Christians use to know the truth that these writings were the inspired word of God.
God.

Only a Roman Catholic would claim to be a Christian and try to put God's Holy Writ into question in order to defend their sect. The only other people who do that are Muslims, JW's and Mormons.
 
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