The seventieth week

puddleglum

Well-known member
Daniel 9:24-27 contains a prophecy of seventy weeks of years, 490 years, that was given to Daniel to show what lay ahead for his people the Jews and for the city of Jerusalem.

Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.

Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.

And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolato
r.”

After 69 weeks, 483 years, “an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.” This was fulfilled by the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. You would expect this to be followed immediately by the 70th week and the beginning of his reign on earth. This didn’t happen because the nation of Israel refused to acknowledge him as their king. They were the ones who incited the Romans to crucify him. When he was on trial before Pilate they declared that they had no king but Caesar. As a result God passed judgment on them by destroying their city and their temple and scattering them throughout the earth. “And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

Something like this has happened before in Jewish history. After God rescued them from slavery in Egypt and brought them to the land he had promised to give them they were afraid to enter and were condemned to spend 40 years wandering in the wilderness. Because they refused to acknowledge the king God gave them they spent 1900 years wandering throughout the world without a nation of their own. We are now living between the 69th and 70th weeks.

Eventually their time of wandering will end and the 70th week will take place. “And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering.” Who is the “he” spoken of here? Some think it is the anointed one spoken of earlier but in fact it is the coming prince whose people destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. He will make a treaty with the Jewish people which will allow them to rebuild the temple and resume making the sacrifices Moses commanded. In the middle of the week he will end the sacrifices and demand that they worship him.

Here is how Paul describes this event. “For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3,4)

Chapters 4 to 19 of Revelation give a detailed account of what will happen during this time. There are frequent references to a period of 42 months or 1,260 days, which amounts to 3 1/2 years. This time will end when Jesus returns and destroys the usurper and the Jews finally acknowledge that he is their Messiah.
 

rod.ney

Well-known member
Just to clarify your view...

If the 70th week were to start 1/1/2023, when would it end?
Well since the 70th week of years in Dan.9:27 are 7 prophetic years of 360 days each, it will end EXACTLY 2,520 days after your 1/1/2023 start date and Jesus would then IMMEDIATELY return to REIGN for 1000 years as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6!
 

Yahchristian

Well-known member
Well since the 70th week of years in Dan.9:27 are 7 prophetic years of 360 days each, it will end EXACTLY 2,520 days after your 1/1/2023 start date and Jesus would then IMMEDIATELY return to REIGN for 1000 years as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6!

Are you saying the Tribulation will actually be 6 years 10 1/2 months rather than 7 years?

And...

Is Jesus going to reign for 1,000 solar years or just 985 1/2 solar years?
 

TrevorL

Well-known member
Greetings puddleglum,
Chapters 4 to 19 of Revelation give a detailed account of what will happen during this time. There are frequent references to a period of 42 months or 1,260 days, which amounts to 3 1/2 years. This time will end when Jesus returns and destroys the usurper and the Jews finally acknowledge that he is their Messiah.
I subscribe to the view that there is no gap in the 70 weeks prophecy. Also the periods of 42 months or 1260 days are periods of 1260 years when the RCC had dominance, Justinian 529-533 to 1789-1793, Phocas 608-610 to 1868-1870. This 1260 years is the same period of time given in Daniel 7 which clearly depicts the little horn as the Papacy. The view that the Antichrist will only appear near the return of Christ was a Jesuit invention to deflect the normal Protestant Reformation view that the Papacy is the Antichrist system.

Kind regards
Trevor
 

Arkycharlie

Super Member
Eventually their time of wandering will end and the 70th week will take place. “And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering.” Who is the “he” spoken of here? Some think it is the anointed one spoken of earlier but in fact it is the coming prince whose people destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. He will make a treaty with the Jewish people which will allow them to rebuild the temple and resume making the sacrifices Moses commanded. In the middle of the week he will end the sacrifices and demand that they worship him.
Daniel 9:
Then after the sixty-two weeks, the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.

Matthew 11:3
1 When Jesus had finished instructing his twelve disciples, he left there to teach and preach in their home towns.
2 Now when John heard in prison about the activities of the Messiah, he sent a message by his disciples 3 and asked him, “Are you the Coming One, or should we wait for someone else?”

Luke 7:

18 John’s disciples told him about all these things. So John called two of his disciples
19 and sent them to the Lord to ask, “Are you the Coming One, or should we wait for someone else?”
20 When the men had come to Jesus, they said, “John the Baptist has sent us to you to ask, ‘Are you the Coming One, or should we wait for someone else?’”
21 At that time Jesus had healed many people of diseases, plagues, and evil spirits, and had given sight to many who were blind.
(International Standard Version)

It is very clear that the Jewish scribes and teachers during the ministry of Jesus interpreted "the Prince who is to come" in Daniel 9:26 to be a reference to Messiah the Prince. The term "the Coming One" in the Gospel passages above is a direct quote from Daniel 9:26. Connect the dots, if you're able!

 

rod.ney

Well-known member
Daniel 9:
Then after the sixty-two weeks, the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.

Matthew 11:3
1 When Jesus had finished instructing his twelve disciples, he left there to teach and preach in their home towns.
2 Now when John heard in prison about the activities of the Messiah, he sent a message by his disciples 3 and asked him, “Are you the Coming One, or should we wait for someone else?”

Luke 7:

18 John’s disciples told him about all these things. So John called two of his disciples
19 and sent them to the Lord to ask, “Are you the Coming One, or should we wait for someone else?”
20 When the men had come to Jesus, they said, “John the Baptist has sent us to you to ask, ‘Are you the Coming One, or should we wait for someone else?’”
21 At that time Jesus had healed many people of diseases, plagues, and evil spirits, and had given sight to many who were blind.
(International Standard Version)

It is very clear that the Jewish scribes and teachers during the ministry of Jesus interpreted "the Prince who is to come" in Daniel 9:26 to be a reference to Messiah the Prince. The term "the Coming One" in the Gospel passages above is a direct quote from Daniel 9:26. Connect the dots, if you're able!

Oh, so you contradict Dan.9:26b because Jesus is NOT the coming one of the people ( Romans ) who destroyed the city ( Jerusalem ) and the sanctuary ( Temple )! Jesus already came and was Crucified some 30+ years BEFORE the Romans destroyed the city & Temple in 70 AD! The coming prince ( AC ) or MOL of 2 Thess.2:1-8 is of Roman ancestry ( Titus & Vespasian ) of those who destroyed the temple in 70 AD! It ( Dan.9:27 ) is still future! Case closed! -------------------------------------

Daniel 9:26
New International Version

26 ( a ) After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One ( Jesus ) will be put to death and will have nothing. ( b )The people ( Romans ) of the ruler ( AC or MOL ) who will come will destroy the city ( Jerusalem ) and the sanctuary ( Temple ). ( c ) The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed.
 
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Arkycharlie

Super Member
Oh, so you chose not to comment on my assertions about "the coming one". It is much more obvious in the original languages, Below are the Hebrew and Greek texts of the two verses that you quoted:

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Notice in the Hebrew text, the sigh of the definite article is prefixed to "coming", not "people"! This should make it obvious why John's disciples asked Jesus if He was "the coming one"!!!

There is a mistranslation in Daniel 9:26. In the Hebrew text, the word translated "people" (עם), depending upon how it's vocalized, can mean either "people" or "with". Every version of the LXX correctly translates it as "with". You can see what I mean in the table of translations that I created below.

The book of Daniel was sealed and concealed until the appointed time of the end. Anderson's book, The Coming Prince, which you obviously consider accurate was published in 1894. That was well before the last days in which we now live. His book served to keep the 70 weeks prophecy sealed and concealed.

We've just scratched the surface here. I have much more evidence for my position.





Old Greek (Septuagint)
Circa 150 B.C.


Theodotion
Circa 200 A.D.


Peshitta
Aramaic OT
Circa 200 A.D.


Jerome
Circa 407 A.D.

Young's Literal
Translation

Circa 1862


Bible in Basic English (BBE)
1949


God's Word
Translation
1995
Modern English
Translation of The Jewish Tanakh

Modern English
New King James
26 And after seven and seventy and sixty two weeks, an anointing will be removed and will not be. And a king of nations will demolish the city and the sanctuary along with the anointed one, and his consummation will come with wrath even until the time of consummation. He will be attacked through war.



26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointing will be destroyed, and there is no judgment in it. And it will destroy the city and the sanctuary along with the leader who is to come. And they will be cut off by a flood, and there will be annihilations to the finish of a shortened war.




26 After sixty-two times seven weeks, Messiah shall be slain, and the city shall be without a ruler; and the holy city shall be destroyed together with the coming king; and the end thereof shall be a mass exile, and at the end of the war, desolations are determined




26 And after sixty-two weeks Christ shall be slain, and the people that shall deny Him shall not be His. And a people, with their leader that shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. And the end thereof shall be devastation, and after the end of the war there shall be the appointed desolation



26 And after the sixty and two weeks, cut off is Messiah, and the city and the holy place are not his, the Leader who hath come doth destroy the people; and its end [is] with a flood, and till the end [is] war, determined [are] desolations.




26 And at the end of the times, even after the sixty-two weeks, one on whom the holy oil has been put will be cut off and have no ...; and the town and the holy place will be made waste together with a prince; and the end will come with an overflowing of waters, and even to the end there will be war; the making waste which has been fixed.

26 But after the sixty-two sets of seven time periods, the Anointed One will be cut off and have nothing. The city and the holy place will be destroyed with the prince who is to come. His end will come with a flood until the end of the destructive war that has been determined.

26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall an anointed one be cut off, and be no more; and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.


26 And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
 

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rod.ney

Well-known member
Oh, so you chose not to comment on my assertions about "the coming one". It is much more obvious in the original languages, Below are the Hebrew and Greek texts of the two verses that you quoted:

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Notice in the Hebrew text, the sigh of the definite article is prefixed to "coming", not "people"! This should make it obvious why John's disciples asked Jesus if He was "the coming one"!!!

There is a mistranslation in Daniel 9:26. In the Hebrew text, the word translated "people" (עם), depending upon how it's vocalized, can mean either "people" or "with". Every version of the LXX correctly translates it as "with". You can see what I mean in the table of translations that I created below.

The book of Daniel was sealed and concealed until the appointed time of the end. Anderson's book, The Coming Prince, which you obviously consider accurate was published in 1894. That was well before the last days in which we now live. His book served to keep the 70 weeks prophecy sealed and concealed.

We've just scratched the surface here. I have much more evidence for my position.





Old Greek (Septuagint)
Circa 150 B.C.


Theodotion
Circa 200 A.D.


Peshitta
Aramaic OT
Circa 200 A.D.


Jerome
Circa 407 A.D.

Young's Literal
Translation

Circa 1862


Bible in Basic English (BBE)
1949


God's Word
Translation
1995
Modern English
Translation of The Jewish Tanakh

Modern English
New King James
26 And after seven and seventy and sixty two weeks, an anointing will be removed and will not be. And a king of nations will demolish the city and the sanctuary along with the anointed one, and his consummation will come with wrath even until the time of consummation. He will be attacked through war.
26 And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointing will be destroyed, and there is no judgment in it. And it will destroy the city and the sanctuary along with the leader who is to come. And they will be cut off by a flood, and there will be annihilations to the finish of a shortened war.

26 After sixty-two times seven weeks, Messiah shall be slain, and the city shall be without a ruler; and the holy city shall be destroyed together with the coming king; and the end thereof shall be a mass exile, and at the end of the war, desolations are determined

26 And after sixty-two weeks Christ shall be slain, and the people that shall deny Him shall not be His. And a people, with their leader that shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. And the end thereof shall be devastation, and after the end of the war there shall be the appointed desolation

26 And after the sixty and two weeks, cut off is Messiah, and the city and the holy place are not his, the Leader who hath come doth destroy the people; and its end [is] with a flood, and till the end [is] war, determined [are] desolations.

26 And at the end of the times, even after the sixty-two weeks, one on whom the holy oil has been put will be cut off and have no ...; and the town and the holy place will be made waste together with a prince; and the end will come with an overflowing of waters, and even to the end there will be war; the making waste which has been fixed.

26 But after the sixty-two sets of seven time periods, the Anointed One will be cut off and have nothing. The city and the holy place will be destroyed with the prince who is to come. His end will come with a flood until the end of the destructive war that has been determined.

26 And after the threescore and two weeks shall an anointed one be cut off, and be no more; and the people of a prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; but his end shall be with a flood; and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

26 And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
What I posted is 100% Correct as the AC or MOL of 2 Thess.2:1-8 is the one who will confirm the covenant in Dan.9:27! Case closed! Jesus NEVER confirmed a covenant for 7 years and then broke it in the Middle of those 7 years by having an AOD set up in the Jews Temple! Matt.24:15 ( the AOD ) as mentioned by Daniel! Thus this still stands --------------------------
Oh, so you contradict Dan.9:26b because Jesus is NOT the coming one of the people ( Romans ) who destroyed the city ( Jerusalem ) and the sanctuary ( Temple )! Jesus already came and was Crucified some 30+ years BEFORE the Romans destroyed the city & Temple in 70 AD! The coming prince ( AC ) or MOL of 2 Thess.2:1-8 is of Roman ancestry ( Titus & Vespasian ) of those who destroyed the temple in 70 AD! It ( Dan.9:27 ) is still future! Case closed! -------------------------------------

Daniel 9:26​

New International Version​

26 ( a ) After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One ( Jesus ) will be put to death and will have nothing. ( b )The people ( Romans ) of the ruler ( AC or MOL ) who will come will destroy the city ( Jerusalem ) and the sanctuary ( Temple ). ( c ) The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. ------------------------------------ Case closed!
 
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rod.ney

Well-known member
Your ignorance is exceeded only by your arrogance. Since you refuse to respond to anything that I post, this has become an exercise in futility. Believe what you choose, I couldn't care less.
No, the true Christians READERS can CLEARLY see that it is your ignorance that is exceeded by arrogance ( Hubris ) because you are the one that REFUSES to go by those AS IS Posted scriptures that CLEARLY rebukes ( 2 Tim.3:16 ) your out of CONTEXT response because GOD's say so in those posted scriptures CONTRADICT your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 )! Thus this still stands without me having to answer your out of CONTEXT response that has NOTHING to do the scriptures I posted to rebuke your WRONG view with! ----------------------------
Oh, so you contradict Dan.9:26b because Jesus is NOT the coming one of the people ( Romans ) who destroyed the city ( Jerusalem ) and the sanctuary ( Temple )! Jesus already came and was Crucified some 30+ years BEFORE the Romans destroyed the city & Temple in 70 AD! The coming prince ( AC ) or MOL of 2 Thess.2:1-8 is of Roman ancestry ( Titus & Vespasian ) of those who destroyed the temple in 70 AD! It ( Dan.9:27 ) is still future! Case closed! -------------------------------------

Daniel 9:26​

New International Version​

26 ( a ) After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One ( Jesus ) will be put to death and will have nothing. ( b )The people ( Romans ) of the ruler ( AC or MOL ) who will come will destroy the city ( Jerusalem ) and the sanctuary ( Temple ). ( c ) The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. Jesus Never confirmed a covenant for one seven ( 7 Years - Dan.9:27 ) and then broke it in the MIDDLE of that seven by having the AOD mentioned in Matt.24:15-16 set up in the Temple, BUT the AC ( MOL of 2 Thess.2:1-8 WILL in the future ------------------------------------ Case closed!
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
Daniel 9:24-27 contains a prophecy of seventy weeks of years, 490 years, that was given to Daniel to show what lay ahead for his people the Jews and for the city of Jerusalem.

Seventy weeks are decreed about your people and your holy city, to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place.

Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. And after the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.

And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolato
r.”

After 69 weeks, 483 years, “an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing.” This was fulfilled by the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. You would expect this to be followed immediately by the 70th week and the beginning of his reign on earth. This didn’t happen because the nation of Israel refused to acknowledge him as their king. They were the ones who incited the Romans to crucify him. When he was on trial before Pilate they declared that they had no king but Caesar. As a result God passed judgment on them by destroying their city and their temple and scattering them throughout the earth. “And the people of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed.

Something like this has happened before in Jewish history. After God rescued them from slavery in Egypt and brought them to the land he had promised to give them they were afraid to enter and were condemned to spend 40 years wandering in the wilderness. Because they refused to acknowledge the king God gave them they spent 1900 years wandering throughout the world without a nation of their own. We are now living between the 69th and 70th weeks.

Eventually their time of wandering will end and the 70th week will take place. “And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering.” Who is the “he” spoken of here? Some think it is the anointed one spoken of earlier but in fact it is the coming prince whose people destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. He will make a treaty with the Jewish people which will allow them to rebuild the temple and resume making the sacrifices Moses commanded. In the middle of the week he will end the sacrifices and demand that they worship him.

Here is how Paul describes this event. “For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:3,4)

Chapters 4 to 19 of Revelation give a detailed account of what will happen during this time. There are frequent references to a period of 42 months or 1,260 days, which amounts to 3 1/2 years. This time will end when Jesus returns and destroys the usurper and the Jews finally acknowledge that he is their Messiah.
I find it hard to believe weeks are years, as the scripture clearly states "seventy weeks"

I find it hard to believe 69 weeks are fulfilled, with a floating 70th week in the making for the past 1900+ years, waiting to be fulfilled in the future

In my opinion, this teaching is sorta like believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy
 

rod.ney

Well-known member
I find it hard to believe weeks are years, as the scripture clearly states "seventy weeks"

I find it hard to believe 69 weeks are fulfilled, with a floating 70th week in the making for the past 1900+ years, waiting to be fulfilled in the future

In my opinion, this teaching is sorta like believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy
FYI T7t7, the Prophecy starts on 444 BC when the Decree to restore & rebuild Jerusalem ( Dan.9:25 T7t7 ) was issued to Nehemiah by King Artaxerxes in Nehemiah chapter 2! History shows that Jesus was cut off ( Crucified ) on Nisan ( March/April ) of 32 or 33 AD! So if you want Daniels 70 weeks to be weeks of days , then your crucifixion of Jesus would have happened in 445 BC and not the historical 32 or 33 AD date! It is weeks of years because moving forward 69 sevens of 360day prophetic years from the start date of Nisan of 444 BC we come to Nisan of 33 AD! Here's the math to get our Solar years for that Nisan of 33 AD Crucifixion date! 69 weeks = 69 X 7 = 483 Prophetic years! 483 Prophetic years X 360 Days in a Prophetic year = 173,880 days! To get our calendar or Solar years divide those 173,880 days by 365.25 days in a solar year and we get 476 Solar years and about 20 days! So move forward 476 solar years from the starting point of Nisan of 444 BC or 476-444= Nisan of 32 AD, but there is no ZERO year between 1 BC & 1 AD! Thus one solar year gets added back in and we now have Nisan of 33 AD for His crucifixion date! So yes indeed 70 weeks of Years and NOT days T7t7! Case closed!
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
FYI T7t7, the Prophecy starts on 444 BC when the Decree to restore & rebuild Jerusalem ( Dan.9:25 T7t7 ) was issued to Nehemiah by King Artaxerxes in Nehemiah chapter 2! History shows that Jesus was cut off ( Crucified ) on Nisan ( March/April ) of 32 or 33 AD! So if you want Daniels 70 weeks to be weeks of days , then your crucifixion of Jesus would have happened in 445 BC and not the historical 32 or 33 AD date! It is weeks of years because moving forward 69 sevens of 360day prophetic years from the start date of Nisan of 444 BC we come to Nisan of 33 AD! Here's the math to get our Solar years for that Nisan of 33 AD Crucifixion date! 69 weeks = 69 X 7 = 483 Prophetic years! 483 Prophetic years X 360 Days in a Prophetic year = 173,880 days! To get our calendar or Solar years divide those 173,880 days by 365.25 days in a solar year and we get 476 Solar years and about 20 days! So move forward 476 solar years from the starting point of Nisan of 444 BC or 476-444= Nisan of 32 AD, but there is no ZERO year between 1 BC & 1 AD! Thus one solar year gets added back in and we now have Nisan of 33 AD for His crucifixion date! So yes indeed 70 weeks of Years and NOT days T7t7! Case closed!
Wow, thats a whole bunch of math!
 

rod.ney

Well-known member
Wow, thats a whole bunch of math!
Yes a bunch of math that gets the correct cut off date from the STARTING Date ( Nisan 444 BC ) of the Decree issued to restore & rebuild Jerusalem as so stated in Dan.9:25 T7t7! And like I Correctly stated, your WRONG view of weeks of days ( instead of weeks of years ) would have Jesus cut off ( Crucifixion ) in 445 BC, because moving forward ( 69 X 7 ) = 483 days from Nisan 444 BC would only get to 445 BC and Not 32 or 33 AD when Jesus actually got cut off ( crucified )! Case closed T7t7!
 

puddleglum

Well-known member
I find it hard to believe weeks are years, as the scripture clearly states "seventy weeks"

I find it hard to believe 69 weeks are fulfilled, with a floating 70th week in the making for the past 1900+ years, waiting to be fulfilled in the future

In my opinion, this teaching is sorta like believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy

The word translated "week" is literally "seven". It means a group of seven just as the English word dozen means a group of twelve. The Jewish calendar divided days into weeks just as our calendars to today, but it also divided years the same way.

For six years you shall sow your field, and for six years you shall prune your vineyard and gather in its fruits, but in the seventh year there shall be a Sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall not sow your field or prune your vineyard.
Leviticus 25:3,4 ESV

Every seventh day was a Sabbath but so was every seventh year.
 

Truth7t7

Well-known member
The word translated "week" is literally "seven". It means a group of seven just as the English word dozen means a group of twelve. The Jewish calendar divided days into weeks just as our calendars to today, but it also divided years the same way.

For six years you shall sow your field, and for six years you shall prune your vineyard and gather in its fruits, but in the seventh year there shall be a Sabbath of solemn rest for the land, a Sabbath to the Lord. You shall not sow your field or prune your vineyard.
Leviticus 25:3,4 ESV

Every seventh day was a Sabbath but so was every seventh year.
You mean like seven days = one week :)
 

Arkycharlie

Super Member
Daniel 9:27
27 And He will make a firm covenant with the MANY for one week, but in the middle of the week He will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.”

Isaiah 53:
1 Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty that we should look upon Him, nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; And like one from whom men hide their face. He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, and by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, so He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away; And as for His generation, who considered that He was cut off out of the land of the living for the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men, yet He was with a rich man in His death, Because He had done no violence, nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the Lord was pleased to crush Him, putting Him to grief; If He would render Himself as a guilt offering, He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days, And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the anguish of His soul, He will see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge the righteous One, My Servant, will justify the MANY, as He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great, and He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death, and was numbered with the transgressors; Yet He Himself bore the sin of MANY, and interceded for the transgressors.

Matthew 26:
26 While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and [h]after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.”
27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you;
28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for MANY for forgiveness of sins.
29 But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”

Mark 14:
22 While they were eating, He took some bread, and after a blessing He broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is My body.”
23 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
24 And He said to them, “This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for MANY.
25 Truly I say to you, I will never again drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God.”

Hebrews 8:
1
Now the main point in what has been said is this: we have such a high priest, who has taken His sat at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens,
2 A minister in the sanctuary and the true tabernacle, which the Lord set up, not man.
3 For every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices; so it is necessary that this high priest also have something to offer.
4 Now if He were on earth, He would not be a priest at all, since there are those who offer the gifts according to the Law;
5 who serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things, just as Moses was warned by God when he was about to erect the tabernacle; for, “See,” He says, “that you make all things by the pattern which was shown to you on the mountain.”
6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, to the extent that He is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises.

Hebrews 10:
11
Every priest stands daily ministering and offering time after time the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins;
12 but He, having offered one sacrifice for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of God

If you want to be wise, have an open mind and simply connect the dots!
 
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