The so called "Trinity" does not exist!

rod.ney

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And you thought that you get to imagine whatever you like into the text? Wherever did you get such a crazy idea?



Well of course you are lying to God the Father when you are lying to His Spirit.



Hardly. God the Father isn't even speaking here.
You're the one with the crazy ideas because ALl scriptures on the SAME Topic ( who GOD is ) must be used to get the correct entire picture! Gen.1:26 in the OT shows us that the ONE GOD is Plural ( Us & Our ) and the NT scriptures that I posted shows He is 3 in one ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) as John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8 shows that those 3 Divine Persons of the ONE GOD can be called God, just as you said GOD's Spirt can be called God! And you said God the Father was not speaking in Heb.1:8! So who do you say was speaking when He said this " O God " about His Son ? Also who do you think is the Son that is called " O God " in that verse? Inquiring minds just can't wait to see your ( Man's word ) answers to those 2 questions!
 

Our Lord's God

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You're the one with the crazy ideas because ALl scriptures on the SAME Topic ( who GOD is ) must be used to get the correct entire picture! Gen.1:26 in the OT shows us that the ONE GOD is Plural ( Us & Our )

No, it shows God including himself in a group.

and the NT scriptures that I posted shows He is 3 in one ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 )

Matthew 28:19 doesn't say a thing about a 3 in one God.

as John 1:1 ; Acts 5:3-4 & Heb.1:8 shows that those 3 Divine Persons of the ONE GOD can be called God, just as you said GOD's Spirt can be called God!

So you believe Hebrews 1:8-9 says God's God rewarded God for good behavior. You certainly have some bizarre notions.


And you said God the Father was not speaking in Heb.1:8! So who do you say was speaking

Read the Psalm which is being quoted. It tells you.

when He said this " O God " about His Son ? Also who do you think is the Son that is called " O God " in that verse? Inquiring minds just can't wait to see your ( Man's word ) answers to those 2 questions!

Nobody is called "O God." The term used is "ho theos" the exact same term used twice in the next verse.

You don't care much for facts do you?
 

OldShepherd

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Read the Psalm which is being quoted. It tells you.
Nobody is called "O God." The term used is "ho theos" the exact same term used twice in the next verse.
You don't care much for facts do you?
Seems like you are the one ignorant of the facts. Psalms was written in Hebrew. O Theos" is Greek.
 

rod.ney

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No, it shows God including himself in a group.



Matthew 28:19 doesn't say a thing about a 3 in one God.



So you believe Hebrews 1:8-9 says God's God rewarded God for good behavior. You certainly have some bizarre notions.




Read the Psalm which is being quoted. It tells you.



Nobody is called "O God." The term used is "ho theos" the exact same term used twice in the next verse.

You don't care much for facts do you?
All just a bunch of your WRONG say so ( Man's word ) yet again! God the Father is speaking in Heb.1:6+8 because God's angels will NEVER worship anyone other than God! Those angels in verse 6 worshiped the Son ( Jesus Christ ) whom God the Father called " O God " in verse 8! Thus your say so ( man's word ) remains 100% rebuked ( 2 Tim.3:16 )!
 

YeshuaFan

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All just a bunch of your WRONG say so ( Man's word ) yet again! God the Father is speaking in Heb.1:6+8 because God's angels will NEVER worship anyone other than God! Those angels in verse 6 worshiped the Son ( Jesus Christ ) whom God the Father called " O God " in verse 8! Thus your say so ( man's word ) remains 100% rebuked ( 2 Tim.3:16 )!
So clear there that the author of Hebrews attested that Jesus was far more then a mere Prophet, that he was very God!
 

johnny guitar

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And you thought that you get to imagine whatever you like into the text? Wherever did you get such a crazy idea?



Well of course you are lying to God the Father when you are lying to His Spirit.



Hardly. God the Father isn't even speaking here.
When we lie to The Holy Spirit we are lying to(Drumroll)The Holy Spirit.
Case closed.
 

OldShepherd

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Well then, let's just go right ahead and blot out all those verses which state believers are born/begotten of God.

You do that.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.​
 

OldShepherd

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All the children of God are "literally" His children; He begat them; they are born of God.
Wrong! They are not literally God's children. They were not literally born from a womb as "children" of God. They are spiritually the children of God. Only Jesus is literally a child of God.
 

Our Lord's God

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Wrong! They are not literally God's children. They were not literally born from a womb as "children" of God. They are spiritually the children of God. Only Jesus is literally a child of God.

Are you actually suggesting that Jesus is God's son because he came out of a human womb?

Wow, you really know how to refute yourself.
 

cjab

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Are you actually suggesting that Jesus is God's son because he came out of a human womb?

Wow, you really know how to refute yourself.
I think he meant "naturally" rather than "literally." The idea is that coming from a womb denotes a natural son of God, as opposed to adopted sons of God that is the most that believers can ever be.
 
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