Yahchristian
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Number is more so in our comprehension , then it actually exist in God. You do realize we all have the very same Holy Scriptures? God is One.
Okay... so...
True or false?
God is Jesus.
I say true.
Number is more so in our comprehension , then it actually exist in God. You do realize we all have the very same Holy Scriptures? God is One.
You said "The Word Himself proceed, which is properly called Generation/ Begotten or Birth, and Son."
But you also believe in a "third person" who proceeds which you say is properly called begotten or birth..
On the contrary procession is not birth, however generation is begetting . In other words," Procession of The Logos/Word in God is rightly called Generation, and The Word Himself proceeding is properly called ever Begotten and Son. For you anti Trinitarians that rationalize God thought about a son in eternity, then turned into a son, or uttered a creature son into existence, in verities of the divine, The Son is Ever Born. Whensover The Father is so also is The Son.
The Third Person of The Holy Ghost does not proceed by way of Birth, but rather proceed from both The Father and The Son by way of one single Breath (Originating principle of Spiratio ) , or in a theological construct, Proceed by way of Impulse/ Inclination (ie Quickening), towards an object. One Breath, but Two Breathing.
Remember to ancient Latins procession in God is not just what flows outward (ad extra),but eternally the interior correspondence that is contained therein ( ad intra), In other words God wouldn't think about a son in eternity , God The Father actually Begat The Co- Eternal to Whom didst Thou saidith ,this Day have I Begotten Thee".
....... Alan
On the contrary procession is not birth, however generation is begetting .
True, BUT NOT Jesus ONLY.Okay... so...
True or false?
God is Jesus.
I say true.
True, BUT NOT Jesus ONLY.
True, BUT NOT Jesus ONLY.
STRAWMAN.So who are the other gods?
NOT misleading as long as we remember God is NOT Jesus ONLY.In other words, "God is Jesus" is misleading.. it's not exactly true.. inaccurate.
God is Spirit by nature , so your point is what exactly? The Father is One Person, The Son is another, and The Holy Spirit is another. There is not one scripture to assert otherwise. Christ being spirit does not and would not Negate The Relation of Identity. In that The Son is God and He is relatively opposed/distinct from The Father who is God, and He relatively opposed/distinct from The Holy Spirit who is God. Spiratio is common to both The Father and The Son constituting a single originating principle of The Holy Spirit.Nope.
Christ is the Spirit.
(Lam 4:20, 2 Cor 3:17, 1 Cor 15:45, Ps 33:6, Rom 8:9, Gal 4:6, Etc).
On the contrary another one is not other one from The Divine Nature, hence no other gods, That is to say One Person and another is not other than God Himself.So who are the other gods?
God is Spirit by nature , so your point is what exactly? The Father is One Person, The Son is another, and The Holy Spirit is another. There is not one scripture to assert otherwise. Christ being spirit does not and would not Negate The Relation of Identity. In that The Son is God and He is relatively opposed/distinct from The Father who is God, and He relatively opposed/distinct from The Holy Spirit who is God. Spiratio is common to both The Father and The Son constituting a single originating principle of The Holy Spirit.
When I say Relation of Identity in The Divine Nature, I mean that purely the Relation of the Originator/Father to The Originated/Son to The Originating/ Holy Spirit.
.......Alan
The Father and The Son singly breathes forth The Third Person of The Holy Spirit .Furthermore the Threefold (Plurality),interpersonal relation in the divine is signified by Trinity. Hence Relation is take not as a reality ,but in the comprehension, as one regards Himself to another ."Relative Oppositio", is not accidental in God, nor habitude ,neither something to inhere ,but rather a predicament. In that The Father Begat The Son, and The Holy Spirit proceed therefrom both The Father and The Son.Christ is the Holy Spirit. No trinity.
," We cannot prove or disprove The Divine Trinity of Persons, ".Whoever then tries to prove the Trinity of Persons derogates from Faith in two ways"
I answer that Jesus is God/ The Logos/Word Himself made manifest in the similitude of sinful flesh , now being found and fashioned as man (atomo, ie in an individual), to become obedient unto death to the glory of God The Father.Okay... so...
True or false?
God is Jesus.
I say true.
The Father and The Son singly breathes forth The Third Person of The Holy Spirit .Furthermore the Threefold (Plurality),interpersonal relation in the divine is signified by Trinity. Hence Relation is take not as a reality ,but in the comprehension, as one regards Himself to another ."Relative Oppositio", is not accidental in God, nor habitude ,neither something to inhere ,but rather a predicament. In that The Father Begat The Son, and The Holy Spirit proceed therefrom both The Father and The Son.
My Lord says, I will send another from The Father, The Comforter to testify of Me . My Lord also says," I am with you soon I will come to you. be in you".
You asserting no Trinity means nothing . You fail to properly refute or Negate. In the words of the Trinitarian Latin doctor communis ," We cannot prove or disprove The Divine Trinity of Persons".
.......... Alan
You don't realise you are creating strawman and not your opponent.STRAWMAN.
True, BUT NOT Jesus ONLY.Okay... so...
True or false?
God is Jesus.
I say true.
I said God is NOT Jesus ONLY.You don't realise you are creating strawman and not your opponent.
You say Jesus is not the only God. Which really means there are other gods. You have to n polish your doctrine so that you can polish your English.
I said God is NOT Jesus ONLY.