The "soul" or "Soul" .........

Base12

Member
One thing you will notice Slyzr, is that whenever someone claims Reincarnation is not Biblical, they will never, ever in a million bazillion years post the verses that prove they are correct.

Here is a typical example...

Christians rare or otherwise do not believe in reincarnation.

See that? No verses were posted. We are simply supposed to take her word for it.

I on the other hand, can prove my claim all day and every day. I can post verse after verse showing that Reincarnation is one hundred percent Biblical.

How about another?

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."


The above verse is stating that the folks being hearkened to were 'digged out of a pit'. But wait! Is not 'The Pit' where Hell is? Why yes it is...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."


So how is it that people are born from the Pits of Hell? Easy, The Pit is simply a reference to the Womb of Creation. In this case, The Pit is Sarah's Womb...

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."


Hell is a parable for the Womb and Reincarnation. Christianity has been lied to and yet they never bothered to double check. :cry:
 

Slyzr

Well-known member
One thing you will notice Slyzr, is that whenever someone claims Reincarnation is not Biblical, they will never, ever in a million bazillion years post the verses that prove they are correct.

Here is a typical example...



See that? No verses were posted. We are simply supposed to take her word for it.

I on the other hand, can prove my claim all day and every day. I can post verse after verse showing that Reincarnation is one hundred percent Biblical.

How about another?

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."


The above verse is stating that the folks being hearkened to were 'digged out of a pit'. But wait! Is not 'The Pit' where Hell is? Why yes it is...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."


So how is it that people are born from the Pits of Hell? Easy, The Pit is simply a reference to the Womb of Creation. In this case, The Pit is Sarah's Womb...

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."


Hell is a parable for the Womb and Reincarnation. Christianity has been lied to and yet they never bothered to double check. :cry:


women want something better.

as scripter say's ......

The womb is never satisficed.

Man is an endangered species.
 
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Beloved Daughter

Super Member
One thing you will notice Slyzr, is that whenever someone claims Reincarnation is not Biblical, they will never, ever in a million bazillion years post the verses that prove they are correct.

Here is a typical example...



See that? No verses were posted. We are simply supposed to take her word for it.

I on the other hand, can prove my claim all day and every day. I can post verse after verse showing that Reincarnation is one hundred percent Biblical.

How about another?

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."


The above verse is stating that the folks being hearkened to were 'digged out of a pit'. But wait! Is not 'The Pit' where Hell is? Why yes it is...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."


So how is it that people are born from the Pits of Hell? Easy, The Pit is simply a reference to the Womb of Creation. In this case, The Pit is Sarah's Womb...

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."


Hell is a parable for the Womb and Reincarnation. Christianity has been lied to and yet they never bothered to double check. :cry:

An aberrant, blasphemous statement. Twisting scripture to form your own ideology upon it, is called eisegesis. Biblical scholarship knows nothing of it.


 
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docphin5

Well-known member
One thing you will notice Slyzr, is that whenever someone claims Reincarnation is not Biblical, they will never, ever in a million bazillion years post the verses that prove they are correct.

Here is a typical example...



See that? No verses were posted. We are simply supposed to take her word for it.

I on the other hand, can prove my claim all day and every day. I can post verse after verse showing that Reincarnation is one hundred percent Biblical.

How about another?

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."


The above verse is stating that the folks being hearkened to were 'digged out of a pit'. But wait! Is not 'The Pit' where Hell is? Why yes it is...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."


So how is it that people are born from the Pits of Hell? Easy, The Pit is simply a reference to the Womb of Creation. In this case, The Pit is Sarah's Womb...

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."


Hell is a parable for the Womb and Reincarnation. Christianity has been lied to and yet they never bothered to double check. :cry:
Those same verses also support predestination, not reincarnation. Paul interprets Sarah as the heavenly mother where our virtuous souls were foreknown by God. Hades or hell is our sensible cosmos in which nature, creation, “the womb of creation” that produces our mortal or material body.

To your credit, there were some early church fathers who touch on reincarnation, because scriptures are a bit ambiguous. If I remeber, it was Origen who mentioned something on reincarnation.
 

Gary Mac

Well-known member
all this from a guy that propagates .....

No no one else will matter ...cause he found the "father".

Saying no one else will matter.
How immature and such a lame remark.

Everyone matters to God and His will is that we all be in His same image. If you cant be in His same image then you should not comment in ignorance for it really makes you look foolish.

BTW I did not find the Father, He found me, He wasnt lost. All I did was obey His will, repent from myself to be as He is as He demands of us and have His same mind, perfect even as my Father in heaven is perfect.

And when you see Him as He is -- if you ever do-- ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3.
 

Gary Mac

Well-known member
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Gen 2:7d . . and man became a living soul.

The Hebrew word for "soul" is nephesh (neh'-fesh) which isn't unique to human life.

Its first appearance is at Gen 1:20-21 in reference to aqua creatures and winged
creatures; again at Gen 1:24 as terra creatures; viz: cattle, creepy crawlies, and
wild beasts; and again in Gen 2:7 as the human creature; and yet again at Gen
9:10 to classify every creature aboard Noah's ark.

Soul is somewhat ambiguous. It can be said that creatures are souls and also that
they have souls. But back in the beginning, nephesh simply refers to consciousness,
individuality, and self awareness.
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Yes, our mind, our thoughts, reasoning, it is who we are not what we are.
 

Dant01

Active member
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Matt 12:18 . . Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen; My Beloved in whom My
soul is well-pleased

That's quoted from Isa 42:1 where the Hebrew word for "soul" is nephesh (neh'
fesh) which is the same word for Isaac's soul in Gen 27:3-4.

Both Matt 12:18 and Isa 42:1 speak of Christ.

Well; if Isaac had a soul, and if God has a soul, then Jesus must have a soul too;
and of course he does.

John 12:27 . . Now my soul has become troubled
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Base12

Member
An aberrant, blasphemous statement. Twisting scripture to form your own ideology upon it, is called eisegesis. Biblical scholarship knows nothing of it.


So... you watched a video and now you are an expert. Cool, challenge accepted.

@0:35
Error. It is not the Soul that reincarnates, it is the Spirit.

@1:00
Transmigration of Soul. Again, it is Spirit, not Soul that reincarnates.

@1:12
Claims of 'no proof' is a lie that only the most ignorant and gullible will believe. Lots of 'Strawman' arguments in that section.

@1:40
Presenter twists Hebrews 9:27 to make it say something it doesn't. Most Christians fall for that one.

If everyone must 'die once', then you can toss Rapture out the window. Do not forget to erase all of the verses teaching that dead people came back to life (e.g. Lazarus, Valley of Dry bones, etc.) Erase the verses about Enoch and Elijah not dying. I could go on...

@2:11
Presenter uses Luke 23:43 to make a completely pointless argument that since Jesus didn't use the word 'reincarnation', then reincarnation must not exist. Whatever.

@2:22
Eternal Punishment describes the LENGTH of the sentence, NOT the TYPE of punishment. In other words, God will not change his mind. The sentence is permanent. The Unsaved will be reincarnated whether they like it or not. They have no say in the matter.

@2:38
Presenter claims our identity does not change after death. This is incorrect. We receive a New Name in the Book of Revelation.

@3:10
One does not have to die (i.e. Elijah) in order to be reincarnated. The presenter is lying again.

@3:20
The old 'It is not literal' argument. Sorry, it *is* literal. John the Baptist LITERALLY came in the Spirit and Power of Elijah. As I mentioned previously, it is the Spirit that reincarnates. The presenter has no clue what he is talking about.

@3:40
Too many assumptions on the presenter's part. John the Baptist can still reincarnate as Elijah in the future. So, moot point. There are other arguments we can use here.

@3:50
Who are you going to believe? Either John or Jesus lied... period. I say it was John who lied.

@4:00
Who cares what other religions believe.

Conclusion:
The presenter made several errors and contradictions. He set up Straw Man arguments to easily knock them down. This guy could not debate his way out of a paper bag.

I win this round. :cool:
 

Base12

Member
An aberrant, blasphemous statement. Twisting scripture to form your own ideology upon it, is called eisegesis. Biblical scholarship knows nothing of it.
Do you know the difference between you and I?

I wish for the Unsaved to have another chance. You do not.

Do you know what that means? It means my LOVE is GREATER than yours... assuming you have any. I mean... look at your response. :LOL:

Look in the mirror. You are guilty of what you claim. It is called 'Projecting'. ;)

And guess what? God's LOVE is GREATER than all of ours put together...

1 John 4:8
"He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love."


God is LOVE. Even the Pagans know that one. :rolleyes:

You have failed the LOVE I.Q. test. Do not feel bad. Most Christians... so called... fail the test. Hypocrites are a dime a dozen.

One must interpret verses through the lens of LOVE and MERCY. Glass half full, etc.

Do it.
 

Bob Carabbio

Well-known member
No no offense intended.

But is what you are saying is that no one will ever be.
No one will ever be what??
What did Christianity teach you?
That my SOUL is immortal, but my physical Body isn't.
That no one will ever matter again?
What's THAT supposed to mean??
go a head and admit it Bob.
You did not really get converted did you.
Sorry, but I was Born Again BACK IN 1963, and have been a Christian for 58 years.
 

Gary Mac

Well-known member
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Matt 12:18 . . Behold, My Servant whom I have chosen; My Beloved in whom My
soul is well-pleased

That's quoted from Isa 42:1 where the Hebrew word for "soul" is nephesh (neh'
fesh) which is the same word for Isaac's soul in Gen 27:3-4.

Both Matt 12:18 and Isa 42:1 speak of Christ.
Yes and Christ simply means to be anointed of God. It always has been that way with God in man. And either you are anointed of God, Christ in you, or you are not.
Well; if Isaac had a soul, and if God has a soul, then Jesus must have a soul too;
and of course he does.
Yes same soul, or mind that of God, just as we all are who has His same SPirit as our own disposition and walk in it as He walks in it.
John 12:27 . . Now my soul has become troubled
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But if one who is anointed of God as Jesus was anointed of God where God opens all of His heaven to you then the soul is at peace with Him for we are like Him same mind, same light and walk in it as He is in it where our identity is with Him just as Jesus identity was with Him.
 

Gary Mac

Well-known member
hell is not a parable
True, Heaven and hell is the state of ones being for they do not come with observation they are within you and either you are of His heaven to be like Him in a state pf Love or you are not and live a life in speculation turmoil. Luke 27:20-21
 

Slyzr

Well-known member
How immature and such a lame remark.

Everyone matters to God and His will is that we all be in His same image. If you cant be in His same image then you should not comment in ignorance for it really makes you look foolish.

BTW I did not find the Father, He found me, He wasnt lost. All I did was obey His will, repent from myself to be as He is as He demands of us and have His same mind, perfect even as my Father in heaven is perfect.

And when you see Him as He is -- if you ever do-- ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3.

Then we will never be.

But we are......
 

Dant01

Active member
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According to Siddhartha Gautama, the inventor of Buddhism, there is no personal
"soul" that continues to exist beyond the demise of one's organic body; ergo: one's
original self no longer exists after death.


FAQ: So then in Buddhist rebirth; what is reborn if not the person?

A: Buddhist rebirth is not a resurrection, rather, reincarnation; viz: a
rearrangement of the karmic matter that was once a particular individual. The
complete teaching is a bit complex but in a nutshell, Buddhists can expect to return
as either gods, asuras, hungry ghosts, Hell beings, animals, and/or humans.

In addition: reincarnation doesn't stop with one event; but is potentially a never
ending cycle of birth, misery, and death called samsara.

Unlike reincarnation's potentially never-ending cycle of birth, misery, and death;
Christianity allots but one resurrection per person (Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Rev 20:5
6). So then, those who undergo a second death in the reservoir of brimstone
depicted at Rev 20:10-15 won't be coming back in another form because they will
have used up their one allotted resurrection in order to face justice at the Great
White Throne event.
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Slyzr

Well-known member
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According to Siddhartha Gautama, the inventor of Buddhism, there is no personal
"soul" that continues to exist beyond the demise of one's organic body; ergo: one's
original self no longer exists after death.


FAQ: So then in Buddhist rebirth; what is reborn if not the person?

A: Buddhist rebirth is not a resurrection, rather, reincarnation; viz: a
rearrangement of the karmic matter that was once a particular individual. The
complete teaching is a bit complex but in a nutshell, Buddhists can expect to return
as either gods, asuras, hungry ghosts, Hell beings, animals, and/or humans.

In addition: reincarnation doesn't stop with one event; but is potentially a never
ending cycle of birth, misery, and death called samsara.

Unlike reincarnation's potentially never-ending cycle of birth, misery, and death;

Christianity allots but one resurrection per person (Dan 12:2, John 5:29, Rev 20:5
6). So then, those who undergo a second death in the reservoir of brimstone
depicted at Rev 20:10-15 won't be coming back in another form because they will
have used up their one allotted resurrection in order to face justice at the Great

White Throne event.
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See great white throne event.

So they take our possible existence?

and say NOT good enough?
 
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