I read this and I believe this deserves a thread of it’s own…@Aaron32 has a way to go before he gets to solid ground on these subjects but he knows enough. It is unfortunate that he keeps insisting that we can find common ground by shifting our doctrines to appear to be like yours. I believe his philosophy is to accept what you can now and later the rest will fall into place. So, in this sense, polygamy is not an issue to worry about since we don't practice it today in mortality. And, he accepts polygamy in heaven because he doesn't believe that sex has anything to do with continuing the seeds. He seems to think that women there will accept a man's name as if that makes any sense. Plutonic relationships. In reality, no one will be married, we'll just share names.
BoJ….And you are on solid ground? I see otherwise, but moving forward.
Part of one of your theories goes something like this, in part…Every planet or world that is created (organized) will have two sets of Adam’s and Eves. One of these sets of Adam’s will be the father of spirits (God set 1), the other the father physical mankind (God set 2).
In regards to God set 1, he and his wive/s lived in a celestial world, and pre-existing spirits will be roaming about and will come to them and ask for help to obtain a mortal body. And once God set 1, decides to help out this eternally existing spirit, they will be begotten to this God set, via a purely symbolic new birth and covenant…in which they are referred to being a offspring, born, begotten. Then as a symbolic child, and not a literal child of God set 1, these spirits will be reared in the many mansions of God set 1, and taught the gospel…and this is called “being raised to maturity.” I can only assume that these spirits are not gender neutral, and are male and female by nature (Please verify?).
Also one of these roaming spirits, was actually the first spirit to ask for help to God set 1. He was Jehovah, the future God of the Old Testament and the Future messiah of this earth…I assume that at some point he would have also asked for a body based on your theory, and I also assume that is when he was begotten by Mary as the Christ. I have to keep assuming also, and that Lucifer was denied this help because when invited, along with Jehovah, to a council of God’s to determine the plan of salvation for mankind, his plan was rejected and he took off with one third of the roaming spirits…(Please verify, and correct any error in my assumption here? )
In the meanwhile God set 2, when chosen by God set one, had to come to this earth and eat of the fruit and die. This death was just a future physical death and not a spiritual death (Note: LDS theory demands a spiritual death here as the reason for the Atonement, which you denied). This God set 2 then proceeds to create physicals tabernacles so the symbolic children of God set 1 can enter into these physical bodies created by God set 2 and their literal procreated offsprings, which in your view is the continuation of seeds.
Aaron’s theories are more emotional and spiritual. They are based mostly on random Bible and the BoM versus without a full context…blending traditional Christian thought with general Mormon thought, yet stuck and struggling with how to get around teachings he just can’t cross the line to accept.
IMO Aaron is honestly trying to work through this and trying to understand it, while always keeping his testimony close to his heart. I see your approach, as a convert and member because of marriage, as having your own lines or boundaries set. In this specific case spirits being begotten by sex of a HF and HM. So you just start twisting everything, and try to navigate your way through the maze of teachings…taking bits and pieces of this and that as you go through this.
I understand I can be wrong in my opinion, by this is what I see. And, you can certainly clean up my understanding by stopping it the one line ad Homs, and deflections and give me your clear “plan of salvation” and understanding of all this. It is impossible to navigate through your posts in that there is so much deflection and back pedaling.
Give it a shot, give me three or four paragraphs of how this all works according to your understanding? Then we can build our conversation on a clear bench mark That we can refer to.