brotherofJared
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Your argument is nonsense.This is just nonsense
I disagree. There is absolutely no rationale in your argument.There is absolutely no rational in your argummet
See? You don't even know what the argument is. Those who are exalted ARE like HF. That has never been disputed by me or any other Mormon that I know of.LDS theology teaches and I will go as far to say it demands, that exalted people are like HF.
I did not say they were. Those that are resurrected beings living in the presence of God the Father have celestial bodies. PERIOD. It does not matter whether they are exalted or not.Angel are not like HF.
True, but where do you get the idea that ONLY exalted beings will dwell in the Celestial kingdom?God in LDS theology has a celestial body and as the heading description D&C 76 reads…”The glory and reward of exalted beings in the celestial kingdom is described;”
Nope. Read Section 76 again. What qualifies people who will dwell in the presence of the Father and his Christ? The requirements are quite simple, 51. "They are they who received the testimony of Jesus, and believed on his name and were baptized after the manner of his burial, being buried in the water in his name, and this according to the commandment which he has given—" And 53 "And who overcome by faith, and are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, which the Father sheds forth upon all those who are just and true."Section 76 reads that those that receive a celestial body are those that are just and true and of the “new covenant”
Do you see anything in there about being exalted? Anything about eternal marriage? Anything about the true and everlasting covenant? No? You're basing your whole argument on one word in the section heading? As I explained, the new and everlasting covenant of marriage did not appear until several years after section 76 was recorded. In section 76, we learn about all those who qualify for the Celestial Kingdom which doesn't take much. All of those who qualify will have celestial bodies, but again, nothing in the passage excludes other beings from being in the Celestial kingdom. Angels dwell with God. We have to assume, they dwell with him in the Celestial kingdom and they are not gods and most of them do not have bodies, much less celestial bodies.
Exactly what I said. There is no discussion of eternal marriage in section 76.what do you mean there is no discussion of eternal marriage?
Ok. "These are they who are just men made perfect through Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, who wrought out this perfect atonement through the shedding of his own blood."again you have no idea what you are even saying…read verse 69 on the church website
I see the words "new covenant" but that isn't the new and everlasting covenant. I realize that reference in the verse points to the topical guide under "New and Everlasting Covenant," but these are two different things. The new covenant replaced the old covenant of blood sacrifice because of the great sacrifice offered on our behalf. The everlasting covenant simply refers to God's word as being unbreakable and eternal. It was used in reference to the promise not to wipe out the inhabitants of earth again through a flood. I was invoked in the promises made to Abraham and his seed. And again, it was invoked over the priesthood that God gave Aaron and his descendants, which according to you guys has been revoked -- which creates a problem for promises that God makes if he isn't going to keep them. We believe the Aaronic Priesthood exists, you all don't which continues to make me wonder how much of the Bible you all really believe... is there anything in it that you believe?
Anyway, the point is, at the time Section 76 was recorded the new and everlasting covenant of the priesthood was not yet revealed and therefore, cannot possibly be as the new covenant, which contextually refers to the atonement as Jesus is the mediator of it. So, no. No etermal marriage was mentioned at all in section 76.
Done and explained.D&C and when you see the blue letters that read “new covenant” click on those two words and tell me what pops up?