The twelve behind COVID misinformation

Algor

Well-known member
The mob was stirred up by Trump and Mo Brooks, et al at the rally that day, and by months of Trump complaining about a stolen election.

Congressmen repeatedly called the WH to get Trump to send in the Natl Guard, and he would not.
January 6th: where Democrats finally found the mob they could condemn wholeheartedly, and Republicans the mob they would minimalise.

Do you guys listen to yourselves? Just put it this way: The Jan 6th mob was "mostly peaceful". THAT'S how stupid this all sounds.
 

Deist

Active member
Neither HIV nor hepatitis have gone away. Also, there is no vaccine for HIV. Modern antiviral drugs can prevent an infected person from transmitting the virus so that it is not as much of a health care crisis.
Know anyone getting infected with either lately? Where'd they go?
 

Deist

Active member
The mob was stirred up by Trump and Mo Brooks, et al at the rally that day, and by months of Trump complaining about a stolen election.

Congressmen repeatedly called the WH to get Trump to send in the Natl Guard, and he would not.
Link please, with an excerpt. I don't believe you.

BTW, "Fight for me" is a slogan used in the past by many politicians, if that is your feeble response attempt.
 

Michael R2

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Know anyone getting infected with either lately? Where'd they go?
Over one million HIV infections in 2020

Here are the CDC stats on hepatitis for 2019 (2020 stats are not available yet). They are far lower than the HIV stats, but these are for the US only. Also, a vaccine is available.

They haven't disappeared quite yet.
 

Harry Leggs

Super Member
Over one million HIV infections in 2020

Here are the CDC stats on hepatitis for 2019 (2020 stats are not available yet). They are far lower than the HIV stats, but these are for the US only. Also, a vaccine is available.

They haven't disappeared quite yet.
So how did a hard-to-catch monkey virus (HIV/AIDS) make its way to humans? How bout polio vaccines in Africa grown in monkey tissue? One million+ vaccines grown in monkey tissue given to Africans. 1955-60. We do know for a fact the virus was spread via contaminated blood transfusions back in the 80s.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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So how did a hard-to-catch monkey virus (HIV/AIDS) make its way to humans? How bout polio vaccines in Africa grown in monkey tissue? One million+ vaccines grown in monkey tissue given to Africans. 1955-60. We do know for a fact the virus was spread via contaminated blood transfusions back in the 80s.
I remember a patient admitted and discussed in rounds before the 1980's "HIV, AIDs etc" were not invented labels.
I remember discussing his bloodwork and symptoms. He was early teens. A puzzle. When AIDs was discussed in the 80's, I kept remembering this unsolved puzzle. Nobody knew the questions to ask. Go donate blood tomorrow and they know a few "history" questions to ask.
 

Backup

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January 6th: where Democrats finally found the mob they could condemn wholeheartedly, and Republicans the mob they would minimalise.

Do you guys listen to yourselves? Just put it this way: The Jan 6th mob was "mostly peaceful". THAT'S how stupid this all sounds.
The Jan. 6th crowd that went to see Trump lie about winning the election was mostly peaceful.

The hundreds that stormed the Capital were certainly not.
 

Algor

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The Jan. 6th crowd that went to see Trump lie about winning the election was mostly peaceful.

The hundreds that stormed the Capital were certainly not.

The BLM marches were mostly peaceful. The arson, vandalism, murders, sexual assault and looting were not.

The important thing is to take sides, apparently.
 

Algor

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Know anyone getting infected with either lately? Where'd they go?
Uh...yeah. HIV is still out there dude. So are all kinds of hepatitis. People are dying of them less, and vaccination against HepB is pretty widespread. Vertical transmission of HepB remains the largest single challenge. It is still a killer: hepatocellular carcinoma is no joke.

HIV is mostly tamed by drugs in people who can get them in the first world, but people still get it, and the drugs don't always work forever.

There's a prevalent feeling that STD's are no longer dangerous, but babies still die of secondary syphilis and fulminent herpes simplex, people still get herpetic encephalitis and die in status eilepticus, cirrhosis grumbles along for years until you end up dead in your bathtub after vomiting half your blood volume from a bleeding varix....don't get complacent.
 
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inertia

Super Member
Number one on the list:

Joseph Mercola - Has an internet business, and he is an osteopathic physician, a proponent of alternative medicine*, operated the " Natural Health Center" in Schaumburg, Ill.. Also, "He was warned by the US Food and Drug Administration's (FDA) Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition (CFSAN) in February 2021 for selling unproven COVID-19 cures." (Wikipedia)

For some, misinformation is big business. COVID Conspiracy sells -

"The Truth About COVID-19: Exposing the Great Reset, Lockdowns, Vaccine Passports, and the New Normal: Why We Must Unite in a Global Movement for Health and Freedom. Amazon currently lists it as the #1 best-seller in its “Political Freedom” category." - reference

:cautious:

definitely not in the wellness and health category

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* usually untestable, and lacks biological plausibility, - ineffective homeopathy

Going back to number one on the list in the New York Times. - reference (dated 7/25/2021)

The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online

“Mercola is the pioneer of the anti-vaccine movement,” said Kolina Koltai, a researcher at the University of Washington who studies online conspiracy theories. “He’s a master of capitalizing on periods of uncertainty, like the pandemic, to grow his movement.”

"Some high-profile media figures have promoted skepticism of the vaccines, notably Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham of Fox News, though other Fox personalities have urged viewers to get the shots. Now, Dr. Mercola and others in the “Disinformation Dozen” are in the spotlight as vaccinations in the United States slow, just as the highly infectious Delta variant has fueled a resurgence in coronavirus cases. More than 97 percent of people hospitalized for Covid-19 are unvaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

See the reference links above for details.


 
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shnarkle

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Nice response. (thanks for the links)

I feel for the people that have adverse effects.
I do as well, but especially for those who have openly condemned those who don't get the jab.
The people that suffer through intubation therapy and still die from COVID-19 also come to mind.
It's a vascular problem not an upper respiratory problem. The frontline doctors know using ventilators is a death sentence, yet the narrative from the CDC, NIH, et al. remains the same.
Pandemics are ugly and catastrophic. It feels like a war.

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It's a war of information. The first casualty of war is the truth. The virus has never been isolated. The Salk institute just proved that it is the spike protein itself that is killing everyone. The virus is just a benign carrier.

Johns Hopkins has supplied us with overwhelming evidence that once 30% of the population is inoculated, viral shedding will infect the rest of the population. The FDA EUA applications submitted by Pfizer, etc. reveal that shedding of the spike protein is going to be an issue.

They've suddenly let everyone roam free to mix once they had over 30% of the population infected. Now they can turn our attention to Dr. Fauci and friends as our scapegoats while those who orchestrated this fiasco walk free.
 

inertia

Super Member
I do as well, but especially for those who have openly condemned those who don't get the jab.

It's a vascular problem not an upper respiratory problem. The frontline doctors know using ventilators is a death sentence, yet the narrative from the CDC, NIH, et al. remains the same.

It's a war of information. The first casualty of war is the truth. The virus has never been isolated. The Salk institute just proved that it is the spike protein itself that is killing everyone. The virus is just a benign carrier.

Johns Hopkins has supplied us with overwhelming evidence that once 30% of the population is inoculated, viral shedding will infect the rest of the population. The FDA EUA applications submitted by Pfizer, etc. reveal that shedding of the spike protein is going to be an issue.

They've suddenly let everyone roam free to mix once they had over 30% of the population infected. Now they can turn our attention to Dr. Fauci and friends as our scapegoats while those who orchestrated this fiasco walk free.

Wow. "frontline doctors" hmm...

Central Florida study
 
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