The twelve behind COVID misinformation

vibise

Well-known member
You could say the same of Fauci et al.



You can prove they're all charlatans?
Supplements are not regulated by the FDA, and a few years ago there was a scandal in which it was shown that supplements either did not contain the listed ingredients, or contained things not listed that were sometimes dangerous. From wikipedia:

Over the period 2008 to 2011, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) of the United States received 6,307 reports of health problems (identified as adverse events) from use of dietary supplements containing a combination of ingredients in manufactured vitamins, minerals or other supplement products, with 92% of tested herbal supplements containing lead and 80% containing other chemical contaminants.[87] Using undercover staff, the GAO also found that supplement retailers intentionally engaged in "unequivocal deception" to sell products advertised with baseless health claims, particularly to elderly consumers. Consumer Reports also reported unsafe levels of arsenic, cadmium, lead and mercury in several protein powder products. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) reported that protein spiking, i.e., the addition of amino acids to manipulate protein content analysis, was common. Many of the companies involved challenged CBC's claim.[90]

A 2013 study on herbal supplements found that many products were of low quality, one third did not contain the active ingredient(s) claimed, and one third contained unlisted substances. In a genetic analysis of herbal supplements, 78% of samples contained animal DNA that was not identified as an ingredient on the product labels.In some botanical products, undeclared ingredients were used to increase the bulk of the product and reduce its cost of manufacturing, while potentially violating certain religious and/or cultural limitations on consuming animal ingredients, such as cow, buffalo or deer. In 2015, the New York Attorney General (NY-AG) identified four major retailers with dietary supplement products that contained fraudulent and potentially dangerous ingredients, requiring the companies to remove the products from retail stores. According to the NY-AG, only about 20% of the herbal supplements tested contained the plants claimed. The methodology used by the NY-AG was disputed. The test involves looking for DNA fragments from the plants named as the dietary supplement ingredients in the products. One scientist said that it was possible that the extraction process used to create the supplements removed or destroyed all DNA. This, however, would not explain the presence of DNA from plants such as rice or wheat, that were not listed as ingredients.

A study of dietary supplements sold between 2007 and 2016 identified 776 that contained unlisted pharmaceutical drugs, many of which could interact with other medications and lead to hospitalization. 86% of the adulterated supplements were marketed for weight loss and sexual performance, with many containing prescription erectile dysfunction medication. Muscle building supplements were contaminated with anabolic steroids that can lead to health complications affecting the kidney, the heart, and cause gynecomastia. Multiple bodybuilding products also contained antidepressants and antihistamines. Despite these findings, fewer than half of the adulterated supplements were recalled.
After Mercola got a lot of attention by being listed as one of the top purveyors of covid misinformation, he took down the articles from his website, many of which made false claims about the health benefits of the supplements he sold.
 

Yakuda

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I heard 20% of Americans think there is a microchip in the vaccine.

I guess social media has allowed totally insane conspiracy theories to spread.

If not for my experience on CARM, I would be skeptical that such a level of willful ignorance could exist. But there is obviously lots of people that will fall for any nonsense that supports their prejudices and couldn’t care less about the truth.
According to the CDC the stupid juice isn't a vaccine. Roll up your sleeve I have some fluid in my garage I need to get rid of.
 

Yakuda

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After Mercola got a lot of attention by being listed as one of the top purveyors of covid misinformation, he took down the articles from his website, many of which made false claims about the health benefits of the supplements he sold.
Kind of like fau chi min who wore a mask for show. That's not misinformation though is it?
 

inertia

Super Member
No one is always right.

You've accused people of being charlatans. How do you know they don't believe what they say?

Similar practices are as old as the oldest profession but unlike charlatans, prostitutes deliver products that actually work.

Charlatans believe like astrologers believe, like palm readers, and homeopathy salesmen*. Their beliefs lead them to make unsubstantiated and exaggerated claims in order to profit from people. Direct distribution of misinformation is a part of their sales plan and during the current pandemic, these lies can kill people that would have otherwise obtained professional medical scientific advice.


* Deuteronomy 18:10-12
 
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inertia

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Have you read the definition? Of course you haven't

Wow! A question followed up by an unsupported assertion. hmm...

Vaccines have evolved.

"Recent advances in understanding and reducing the innate immune sensing of mRNA have aided efforts not only in active vaccination but also in several applications of passive immunization or passive immunotherapy for infectious diseases and cancer."


 
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Yakuda

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Wow! A question followed up by an unsupported assertion. hmm...

Vaccines have evolved.

"Recent advances in understanding and reducing the innate immune sensing of mRNA have aided efforts not only in active vaccination but also in several applications of passive immunization or passive immunotherapy for infectious diseases and cancer."


Lol. When people got the polio vaccine didn't get polio after getting the vaccine. Nice try though
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Don't ya love the aroma of misinformation first thing in the morning? Aaahhh

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Reminds us again of the documented liar who doubled down and insisted Michael Mannn was awarded a Nobel Peace prize.

Why did Mike Mannn lie about it under oath?

That means he also lied when he applied for Federal Research grants.

The wild left wingers need to pull the beam out of their own eyes, Yes?

Fear monger malfunctions
 

Yakuda

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Reminds us again of the documented liar who doubled down and insisted Michael Mannn was awarded a Nobel Peace prize.

Why did Mike Mannn lie about it under oath?

That means he also lied when he applied for Federal Research grants.

The wild left wingers need to pull the beam out of their own eyes, Yes?

Fear monger malfunctions
The left is this country is nuts.
 

vibise

Well-known member
Wow! A question followed up by an unsupported assertion. hmm...

Vaccines have evolved.

"Recent advances in understanding and reducing the innate immune sensing of mRNA have aided efforts not only in active vaccination but also in several applications of passive immunization or passive immunotherapy for infectious diseases and cancer."


This is true. People falsely believe that any and all vaccines must somehow be constructed just like the polio vaccine. The truth is that there are multiple ways to elicit an immune response to an infectious pathogen - you can inject inactivated or attenuated viruses, viral proteins, or mRNAs that encode for viral proteins. All of these do the same thing - prime the immune system so that the next exposure to this agent will elicit a rapid, directed response.
 

vibise

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How many people got polio after getting the vaccine?
I assume the 90% figure comes from somewhere.

Pretty much everyone got the vaccine, ensuring herd immunity, which would have protected the 10% in whom the vaccine did not take.
 
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