The twelve behind COVID misinformation

inertia

Super Member
Yeah we did and it's BS. it has to "evolve" when the dunces realized it wasn't working. Hilarious. Look no one likes being duped so I get why have to keep pushing the BS. But encouraging people to be duped like you were is inappropriate at best and dangerous at worse.

Merely unsupported assertions -

Historically, in ~1800, the word "vaccine" originated from the cowpox virus, called vaccinia. A "doctor took pus from the cowpox lesions on a milkmaid’s hands and introduced that fluid into a cut he made in the arm of an 8-year-old boy named James Phipps". ( smallpox was a killer )

From dictionary.com:

Vaccine: any preparation used as a preventive inoculation to confer immunity against a specific disease, usually employing an innocuous form of the disease agent, as killed or weakened bacteria or viruses, to stimulate antibody production.

From Britannica:

Vaccine: suspension of weakened, killed, or fragmented microorganisms or toxins or of antibodies or lymphocytes that is administered primarily to prevent disease.

From the CDC:

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.



 

vibise

Well-known member
Why repeat a pharma-$$$ big lie again and again?

A positive PCR test has nothing to do with an infection.
Plus the numbers are easily manipulated by changing the cycle count, and vary among mfgs., lots, etc.
A while ago you asked over and over to see pictures of cells being lysed by viruses, so I produced some.

You never responded.
Can you respond now?
 

Steven Avery

Well-known member
A while ago you asked over and over to see pictures of cells being lysed by viruses, so I produced some.
You never responded.
Can you respond now?

And I asked to see broken cells with the gazillion viruses around them, in human lytic viruses, which would be the easy-peasy gold standard. Did not happen.

So I decided to pursue more intense discussions on other venues for now. (including the best of Reddit, Facebook and Twitter, putting aside some censorship, especially in Twitter.)

Here I have to dance around stuff like Trump and Biden :).
And end up putting some on ignore.
 
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Steven Avery

Well-known member
Yeah we did and it's BS. it has to "evolve" when the dunces realized it wasn't working. Hilarious. Look no one likes being duped so I get why have to keep pushing the BS. But encouraging people to be duped like you were is inappropriate at best and dangerous at worse.

It is true that in some circles the definition was changed very recently to allow the non-vaccine mRNA gene jabs (possibly with graphene oxide) to be called vaccines.

Simply another trickery.

Although it may have billions at stake in terms of the non-liability laws.
 

Steven Avery

Well-known member
Yes, since we have the covid virus sequence, we can make exact copies of segments of that genome to use for calibration. There is nothing nefarious in doing this. In fact, such synthetic copies would all be identical, whereas nucleic acid from a virus pool would include some sequence errors.

Can you show any cases where the virus was taken from those diseased or deceased, and it matched the "exact... identical" gene sequence.

Thanks!
 

vibise

Well-known member
And I asked to see broken cells with the gazillion viruses around them, in human lytic viruses, which would be the easy-peasy gold standard. Did not happen.

So I decided to pursue more intense discussions on other venues for now. (including the best of Reddit, Facebook and Twitter, putting aside some censorship, especially in Twitter.)

Here I have to dance around stuff like Trump and Biden :).
And end up putting some on ignore.
You did not specify human cells. You were skeptical that any virus would do this to infected cells, and you keep insisting on seeing "gazillions" of viruses coming out of broken cells, when no scientist has ever claimed numbers remotely that high. You also questioned the actual existence of viruses, although the pictures I produced clearly show viral particles in and exiting those burst cells.
 

inertia

Super Member

Here is a partial list of covid sequences from various patients. You can actually do the sequence comparisons yourself, but yes they match the reference genome.

Checking out the first on the reference list:

ORIGIN
1 cttgttctta cctttctttt ccaatgttac ttggttccat gctatacatg tctctgggac
61 caatggtact aagaggtttg ataaccctgt cctaccattt aatgatggtg tttattttgc
121 ttccactgag aagtctaaca taataagagg ctggattttt ggtactactt tagattcgaa
181 gacccagtcc ctacttattg ttaataacgc tactaatgtt gttattaaag tctgtgaatt
241 tcaattttgt aatgatccat ttttgggtgt ttattaccac aaaaacaaca aaagttggat
301 ggaaagtgag ttcagagttt attctagtgc gaataattgc acttttgaat atgtctctca
361 gccttttctt atggaccttg aaggaaaaca gggtaatttc aaaaatctta gggaatttgt
421 gtttaagaat attgatggtt attttaaaat atattctaag cacacgccta ttaatttagt
481 gcgtgatctc cctcagggtt tttcggcttt agaaccattg gtagatttgc caataggtat
541 taacatcact aggtttcaaa ctttacttgc tttacataga agttatttga ctcctggtga
601 ttcttcttca ggttggacag ctggtgctgc agcttattat gtgggttatc ttcaacctag
661 gacttttcta ttaaaatata atgaaaatgg aaccattaca gatgctgtag actgtgcact
721 tgaccctctc tcagaaacaa agtgtacgtt gaaatccttc actgtagaaa aaggaatcta
781 tcaaacttct aactttagag tccaaccaac agaatctatt gttagatttc ctaatattac
841 aaacttgtgc ccttttggtg aagtttttaa cgccaccaga tttgcatctg tttatgcttg
901 gaacaggaag agaatcagca actgtgttgc tgattattct gtcctatata attccgcatc
961 attttccact tttaagtgtt atggagtgtc tcctactaaa ttaaatgatc tctgctttac
1021 taatgtctat gcagattcat ttgtaattag aggtgatgaa gtcagacaaa tcgctccagg
1081 gcaaactgga aagattgctg attataatta taaattacca gatgatttta caggctgcgt
1141 tatagcttgg aattctaaca atcttgattc taaggttggt ggtaattata attacctgta
1201 tagattgttt aggaagtcta atctcaaacc ttttgagaga gatatttcaa ctgaaatcta
1261 tcaggccggt agcacacctt gtaatggtgt tgaaggtttt aattgttact ttcctttaca
1321 atcatatggt ttccaaccca ctaatggtgt tggttaccaa ccatacagag tagtagtact
1381 ttcttttgaa cttctacatg caccagcaac tgtttgtgga cctaaaaagt ctactaattt
1441 ggttaaaaac aaatgtgtca atttcaactt caatggttta acaggcacag gtgttcttac
1501 tgagtctaac aaaaagtttc tgcctttcca acaatttggc agagacattg ctgacactac
1561 tgatgctgtc cgtgatccac agacacttga gattcttgac attacaccat gttcttttgg
1621 tggtgtcagt gttataacac caggaacaaa tacttctaac caggttgctg ttctttatca
1681 ggatgttaac tgcacagaag tccctgttgc tattcatgca gatcaactta ctcctacttg
1741 gcgtgtttat tctacaggtt ctaatgtttt tcaaacacgt gcaggctgtt taataggggc
1801 tgaacatgtc aacaactcat atgagtgtga catacccatt ggtgcaggta tatgcgctag
1861 ttatcagact cagactaatt ctcctcggcg ggcacgtagt gtagctagtc aatccatcat
1921 tgcctacact atgtcacttg gtgcagaaaa ttcagttgct tactctaata actctattgc
1981 catacccaca aattttacta ttagtgttac cacagaaatt ctaccagtgt ctatgaccaa
2041 gacatcagta gattgtacaa tgtacatttg tggtgattca actgaatgca gcaatctttt
2101 gttgcaatat ggcagttttt gtacacaatt aaaccgtgct ttaactggaa tagctgttga
2161 acaagacaaa aacacccaag aagtttttgc acaagtcaaa caaatttaca aaacaccacc
2221 aattaaagat tttggtggtt ttaatttttc acaaatatta ccagatccat caaaaccaag
2281 caagaggtca tttattgaag atctactttt caacaaagtg acacttgcag atgctggctt
2341 catcaaacaa tatggtgatt gccttggtga tattgctgct agagacctca tttgtgcaca
2401 aaagtttaac ggccttactg ttttgccacc tttgctcaca gatgaaatga ttgctcaata
2461 cacttctgca ctgttagcgg gtacaatcac ttctggttgg acctttggtg caggtgctgc
2521 attacaaata ccatttgcta tgcaaatggc ttataggttt aatggtattg gagttacaca
2581 gaatgttctc tatgagaacc aaaaattgat tgccaaccaa tttaatagtg ctattggcaa
2641 aattcaagac tcactttctt ccacagcaag tgcacttgga aaacttcaag atgtggtcaa
2701 ccaaaatgca caagctttaa acacgcttgt taaacaactt agctccaatt ttggtgcaat
2761 ttcaagtgtt ttaaatgata tcctttcacg tcttgacaaa gttgaggctg aagtgcaaat
2821 tgataggttg atcacaggca gacttcaaag tttgcagaca tatgtgactc aacaattaat
2881 tagagctgca gaaatcagag cttctgctaa tcttgctgct actaaaatgt cagagtgtgt
2941 acttggacaa tcaaaaagag ttgatttttg tggaaagggc tatcatctta tgtccttccc
3001 tcagtcagca cctcatggtg tagtcttctt gcatgtgact tatgtccctg cacaagaaaa
3061 gaacttcaca actgctcctg ccatttgtca tgatggaaaa gcacactttc ctcgtgaagg
3121 tgtctttgtt tcaaatggca cncnctggtt tgtaacacaa aggaattttt atgaaccnca
3181 aatcattact acagacaaca catttgtgtc tggtaactgt gatgttgtaa taggaattgt
3241 caacaacnca gtttatgatc ctttgcaacc tgaattagac tcattcaagg aggagttaga
3301 taaatatttt aagaatcata catcaccaga tgttgattta ggtgacatct ctggcattaa
3361 tgcttcagtt gtaaacattc aaaaagaaat tgaccgcctc aatgaggttg ccaagaattt
3421 aaatgaatct ctcatcgatc tccaagaact tggaaagtat gagcagtata taaaanggcc
3481 a
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vibise

Well-known member
Checking out the first on the reference list:
A BLAST search of that sequence shows 99% identity to the full length genome:

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/human/USA/PA-CDC-4197418-001/2021, complete genome
Sequence ID: MZ747235.1Length: 29796Number of Matches: 1
Range 1: 21665 to 25145 GenBank Graphics Next Match Previous Match
Alignment statistics for match #1
ScoreExpectIdentitiesGapsStrand
6410 bits(3471)0.03476/3481(99%)0/3481(0%)Plus/Plus

Using the covid reference sequence (NC_045512) in a BLAST returns hundreds of hits with a 100% match. Here are the first 4:

DescName%ID
Select seq MZ722630.1Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/human/USA/CA-CHLA-PLM67304813/2020, complete genomeSevere acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 25516055160100%0.0100.00%29903MZ722630.1
Select seq MZ722615.1Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/human/USA/CA-CHLA-PLM66141851/2020, complete genomeSevere acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 25516055160100%0.0100.00%29903MZ722615.1
Select seq MZ722192.1Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/human/USA/CA-CHLA-PLM24281864/2020, complete genomeSevere acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 25516055160100%0.0100.00%29903MZ722192.1
Select seq MZ722043.1Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate SARS-CoV-2/human/USA/CA-CHLA-PLM11119504/2020, complete genomeSevere acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 25516055160100%0.0100.00%29903MZ722043.1
BLAST is a tool that allows investigators to search the entire database of genetic sequences to find matches. Each entry in that genetic database represents a distinct sequence from a different source. So it is clear that the covid sequences isolated from different patients are identical, or have trivial differences.
 
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inertia

Super Member
It is true that in some circles the definition was changed very recently to allow the non-vaccine mRNA gene jabs (possibly with graphene oxide) to be called vaccines.

Simply another trickery.

Although it may have billions at stake in terms of the non-liability laws.

The process of words changing their meaning over time is a normal and expected occurrence in language. In this case, the word vaccine began with a rather narrow definition and broadened over time. This process is called semantic widening.

As it turns out the legend that I cited earlier about a doctor infecting a young boy with cowpox is probably incorrect. According to the New England Journal of Medicine, the vaccine used to prevent smallpox was likely horsepox, not cowpox. Evidence for this came from very old containers that were manufactured in 1902. Although these samples are about 100 years distant from the original version, the doctor that applied the vaccine "wrote that he used material from both cows and horses in his experiments".


 

inertia

Super Member
A BLAST search of that sequence shows 99% identity to the full length genome:



Using the covid reference sequence (NC_045512) in a BLAST returns hundreds of hits with a 100% match. Here are the first 4:


BLAST is a tool that allows investigators to search the entire database of genetic sequences to find matches. Each entry in that genetic database represents a distinct sequence from a different source. So it is clear that the covid sequence isolated from different patients is identical, or has trivial differences.

This gives me additional confidence about my own mRNA injections to potentially thwart off the delta variant. - Thanks

I will continue to wear my mask at church today due to accelerating infections around the country.


 
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Yakuda

Well-known member
It is true that in some circles the definition was changed very recently to allow the non-vaccine mRNA gene jabs (possibly with graphene oxide) to be called vaccines.

Simply another trickery.

Although it may have billions at stake in terms of the non-liability laws.
The only ones the REAL immunity here are the companies that provided this garbage.
 

Steven Avery

Well-known member
If the VAERs and Euro systems both report that 10% of their reports are strokes, but it turns out that an age-matched cohort in the general population would be expected to get strokes at 10%, then there is no vaccine correlation.

You have no evidence for your IF.

Plus you are omitting the time factor. Most VAERS reports are within one or two weeks of the jab. If your age-matched cohort has a 10% chance of getting a stroke in a specific one-month window, he is in bad shape.
 

Nic

Well-known member
I heard 20% of Americans think there is a microchip in the vaccine.

I guess social media has allowed totally insane conspiracy theories to spread.

If not for my experience on CARM, I would be skeptical that such a level of willful ignorance could exist. But there is obviously lots of people that will fall for any nonsense that supports their prejudices and couldn’t care less about the truth.
My microchip entitles me to lifetime unlimited top 5g speeds.
😄
All kidding aside I think that microchip belief might exist, but surely not anywhere near 1% let alone 20%.
No I don't have a source, do you? That sounds bonkers.
 

Bonnie

Super Member
A BLAST search of that sequence shows 99% identity to the full length genome:



Using the covid reference sequence (NC_045512) in a BLAST returns hundreds of hits with a 100% match. Here are the first 4:


BLAST is a tool that allows investigators to search the entire database of genetic sequences to find matches. Each entry in that genetic database represents a distinct sequence from a different source. So it is clear that the covid sequences isolated from different patients are identical, or have trivial differences.
This may as well be in Chinese for all the sense it makes to me, but are you saying the Delta variant is at least 99% the same as the original disease?
 

Steven Avery

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FOIs reveal that health/science institutions around the world (107 and counting!) have no record of SARS-COV-2 isolation/purification, anywhere, ever
Christine Massey
https://www.fluoridefreepeel.ca/foi...-record-of-sars-cov-2-isolation-purification/

Video: Does the Virus Exist? Has SARS-CoV-2 Been Isolated? Interview with Christine Massey
By Christine Massey and Prof Michel Chossudovsky
https://www.globalresearch.ca/does-...lated-interview-with-christine-massey/5753322
 
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