The Two Witnesses In Revelation Chapters 11 Bring The Vial Plagues Of God's Wrath

believe as you will. I choose to believe the biblical definition as defined by bible and Greek experts over that of the experts at google.

Word: shmainw

Pronounce: say-mah'-ee-no

Strongs Number: G4591

Orig: from sema (a mark; of uncertain derivation); to indicate:--signify.

Use: TDNT-7:262,1015 Verb

Heb Strong: H2095 H3045 H4448 H5046 H7321 H8628

1) to give a sign, to signify, indicate
2) to make known
believe as you will? ........... (smile). see Revelation 22:11 ........ :censored:

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The two witnesses are the Lord Jesus the Christ, and John the Baptist..

PICJAG, 101G
100% WRONG! Jesus ONLY died once and that was on the cross! The future coming 2 witnesses die ( as per Rev.11:3-12 ) after their 3.5 years of prophesizing in the first half of Dan.9:27 ( called the 7 year Trib. - the second half or another 3.5 years is called the GREAT-Trib.- where the AC rules )! The 2 witnesses MOST likely will be Elijah and either Moses or Enoch ! Case closed! Jesus will IMMEDIATELY return at the END of Dan.9:27 as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6, to reign for 1000 years before the new heaven & earth gets created from the melted old ones as per Rev.21:1 & Isaiah 65:17 in conjunction with 2 Peter 3:10-13!
 
100% WRONG! Jesus ONLY died once and that was on the cross! The future coming 2 witnesses die ( as per Rev.11:3-12 ) after their 3.5 years of prophesizing in the first half of Dan.9:27 ( called the 7 year Trib. - the second half or another 3.5 years is called the GREAT-Trib.- where the AC rules )! The 2 witnesses MOST likely will be Elijah and either Moses or Enoch ! Case closed! Jesus will IMMEDIATELY return at the END of Dan.9:27 as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6, to reign for 1000 years before the new heaven & earth gets created from the melted old ones as per Rev.21:1 & Isaiah 65:17 in conjunction with 2 Peter 3:10-13!
how long was the ministry of the Lord Jesus? 3 1/2 years, or 42 months ..... hello. and both the Lord Jesus the Christ and John the Baptist die as martyr/witnesses.

Day to YEARS? ..... Psalms 90:4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." 2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

and as a matter of fact, the Lord Jesus haven't been gone that long, nearly almost two days now, which is approaching soon. Hosea 6:2 "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight."

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how long was the ministry of the Lord Jesus? 3 1/2 years, or 42 months ..... hello. and both the Lord Jesus the Christ and John the Baptist die as martyr/witnesses.

Day to YEARS? ..... Psalms 90:4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." 2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

and as a matter of fact, the Lord Jesus haven't been gone that long, nearly almost two days now, which is approaching soon. Hosea 6:2 "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight."

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Must be you have NOT read Revelation chapter 11 concerning those two Witnesses! FYI they lay dead for 3.5 days in the streets of Jerusalem! FYI, NEITHER Jesus nor JTB lay dead for 3.5 days in the street and NEITHER were they killed by the Beast from the Abyss ( and NEITHER were clothed in sackcloth )! FYI Jesus after crucified on the cross by the Romans ( and NOT the Beast from the Pit or Abyss ) lay dead in a cave like grave ( that Joseph of Arimathea provided ) for 3 days & 3 nights and when resurrected, HE stayed for 40 days on planet earth before going to Heaven in ACTS chapter one ( the 2 witnesses go to Heaven and stay there Immediately after they are resurrected on the streets of Jerusalem - Now do you see your problem with your view that Jesus & JTB are the 2 Witnesses of Revelation chapter 11?!!!!!!!!!!! )! Thus Jesus' 3.5 years of ministry does NOT Fit the Two witnesses 3.5 years of ministry! Dan.9:27 is still future and like I formerly said the 2 witnesses that prophecy for the first half of Dan.9:27 will MOST likely be Elijiah and either Moses or Enoch! Case closed 101G! So hello yourself and now what say you?! Now use this knowledge and stay NOT Ignorant!
 
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Must be you have NOT read Revelation chapter 11 concerning those two Witnesses! FYI they lay dead for 3.5 days in the streets of Jerusalem! FYI, NEITHER Jesus nor JTB lay dead for 3.5 days in the street
Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
now, the 3 and 1/2 years. Revelation 11:3 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." that's 42 months, or 3 1/2 years.

see how u ERROR, the scriptures never said anything about their bodies lay dead in the street for three days ... or NOT, u added that. why u added to the word of God? Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"

and as for the "clothed in sackcloth", that was the Gospel..... "REPENT" for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. for REPENTANCE, signify, sackcloth.
Jesus after crucified on the cross by the Romans ( and NOT the Beast from the Pit or Abyss )
the Roman Powers at that time was the BEAST
lay dead in a cave like grave ( that Joseph of Arimathea provided ) for 3 days & 3 nights and when resurrected
the term lay in the STREE, simply means they were killed unjustified. in the STREE is lawlessness. simply put into today's language, Street justice.
Now do you see your problem with your view that Jesus & JTB are the 2 Witnesses of Revelation chapter 11?
I see no problem, for the words out of the Lord Jesus own MOUTH confirm what I been saying, LISTEN and LEARN. coming down from the MOUNT of Transfiguration, the Lord Jesus answered a question, Matthew 17:10 "And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias, (Elijah) must first come?" Matthew 17:11 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias, (Elijah) truly shall first come, and restore all things." Matthew 17:12 "But I say unto you, That Elias (Elijah) is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them." Matthew 17:13 "Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."
Did the Lord Jesus LIE? .... NO, only u are in ERROR, Elias (Elijah) is come already, and the Elias (Elijah) is JOHN THE BAPTIST.
are pictures needed?
Thus Jesus' 3.5 years of ministry does NOT Fit the Two witnesses 3.5 years of ministry! Dan.9:27 is still future and like I formerly said the 2 witnesses that prophecy for the first half of Dan.9:27 will MOST likely be Elijiah and either Moses or Enoch! Case closed 101G! So hello yourself and now what say you?! Now use this knowledge and stay NOT Ignorant!
see above.

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Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
now, the 3 and 1/2 years. Revelation 11:3 "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." that's 42 months, or 3 1/2 years.

see how u ERROR, the scriptures never said anything about their bodies lay dead in the street for three days ... or NOT, u added that. why u added to the word of God? Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"

and as for the "clothed in sackcloth", that was the Gospel..... "REPENT" for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. for REPENTANCE, signify, sackcloth.

the Roman Powers at that time was the BEAST

the term lay in the STREE, simply means they were killed unjustified. in the STREE is lawlessness. simply put into today's language, Street justice.

I see no problem, for the words out of the Lord Jesus own MOUTH confirm what I been saying, LISTEN and LEARN. coming down from the MOUNT of Transfiguration, the Lord Jesus answered a question, Matthew 17:10 "And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias, (Elijah) must first come?" Matthew 17:11 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias, (Elijah) truly shall first come, and restore all things." Matthew 17:12 "But I say unto you, That Elias (Elijah) is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them." Matthew 17:13 "Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."
Did the Lord Jesus LIE? .... NO, only u are in ERROR, Elias (Elijah) is come already, and the Elias (Elijah) is JOHN THE BAPTIST.
are pictures needed?

see above.

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FYI I did NOT add to Revelation chapter 11! So, was Jesus' dead body in the Tomb for 3 days & nights or was it on the streets of Jerusalem ( the city figuratively called Sodom & Gomora in that chapter ) for 3.5 days, as the 2 Witnesses dead bodies are in Rev.11:9 for the people to gaze upon! You need to lean how to read! Here's that verse that Proves you 100% Wrong -------
 
FYI I did NOT add to Revelation chapter 11! So, was Jesus' dead body in the Tomb for 3 days & nights or was it on the streets of Jerusalem ( the city figuratively called Sodom & Gomora in that chapter ) for 3.5 days, as the 2 Witnesses dead bodies are in Rev.11:9 for the people to gaze upon! You need to lean how to read! Here's that verse that Proves you 100% Wrong -------
LISTEN to the scripture, Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." shall lie is Italicized, meaning not in the original text. understand, dead bodies in the street is a representative symbol of a violent death. our slang today, street violence. John beheaded, the Lord Jesus crucified., violent deaths in the street, unjustified deaths.

did you not hear, "of the great city", was they not killed in Jerusalem? this is where they met their violent death at.

got it now? if not .... then go to God.

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Now,
Revelation 11:9 "And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves".
“the people and kindreds and tongues and nations”. of many people from around the known world was in Jerusalem during this time, of the crucifixion, and may was at king Herod birthday party. (for Jerusalem was known for KILLING PROPHETS) at the crucifixion, they, from around the known world was there, or arrived for Pentecost, which means they arrive ahead of Pentecost. this is brought out on the road to Emmaus, whifch explain this to us. Luke 24:13 "And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. Verse 14 "And they talked together of all these things which had happened. Verse 15 "And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. Verse 16 "But their eyes were holden that they should not know him. Verse 17 "And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad? Verse 18 "And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? Verse 19 "And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: verse 20 "And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. Verse 21 "But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done”.

here, from this conversation, we see that there was a lot of people in Jerusalem From around the known world there. Other words how he could not know about the Crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. So yes, the whole known world was there during the time of the Crucifixion. Just read your commentaries on this verse.

Just a few scriptures to help us understand, Acts 2:5 "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Verse 6 "Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. Verse 7 "And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? Verse 8 "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Verse 9 "Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and verse 10 "Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes”. some there for Pentecost was from, Cyrene, scripture, Mark 15:21 "And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross”. so was he there for Pentecost and was caught up in the crowd? I don't know for sure, but people from around the known world was in Jeruslam during this time.

so NO, no CNN news cameras was there, nor will be there for this has already happen.

"Proper burial". Neither John nor the Lord Jesus was not given proper burials. they both was rushed jobs. hence the reason why they came to the tomb early that morning to give a proper burial. but he had arisen.

the term "SEE" is signified of, of, to KNOW, not always to physically gaze upon.

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Now,
Revelation 11:9 "And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves".
“the people and kindreds and tongues and nations”. of many people from around the known world was in Jerusalem during this time, of the crucifixion, and may was at king Herod birthday party. (for Jerusalem was known for KILLING PROPHETS) at the crucifixion, they, from around the known world was there, or arrived for Pentecost, which means they arrive ahead of Pentecost. this is brought out on the road to Emmaus, whifch explain this to us. Luke 24:13 "And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. Verse 14 "And they talked together of all these things which had happened. Verse 15 "And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. Verse 16 "But their eyes were holden that they should not know him. Verse 17 "And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad? Verse 18 "And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? Verse 19 "And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: verse 20 "And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. Verse 21 "But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done”.

here, from this conversation, we see that there was a lot of people in Jerusalem From around the known world there. Other words how he could not know about the Crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. So yes, the whole known world was there during the time of the Crucifixion. Just read your commentaries on this verse.

Just a few scriptures to help us understand, Acts 2:5 "And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. Verse 6 "Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. Verse 7 "And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? Verse 8 "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Verse 9 "Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and verse 10 "Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes”. some there for Pentecost was from, Cyrene, scripture, Mark 15:21 "And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross”. so was he there for Pentecost and was caught up in the crowd? I don't know for sure, but people from around the known world was in Jeruslam during this time.

so NO, no CNN news cameras was there, nor will be there for this has already happen.

"Proper burial". Neither John nor the Lord Jesus was not given proper burials. they both was rushed jobs. hence the reason why they came to the tomb early that morning to give a proper burial. but he had arisen.

the term "SEE" is signified of, of, to KNOW, not always to physically gaze upon.

:ninja:
FYI, you WRONGFULLY said that I added to the scriptures about their dead bodies being in the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 Days and it was not in the scriptures! I then said that I did NOT add because it is CLEARLY in Rev.11:9! FYI those people in Jerusalen will see their dead bodies for 3.5 days because they were NOT allowed to be buried! Jesus & JTB are NOT those 2 witnesses! They most probably will be Elijiah and either Moses or Enoch! Case closed on your Twisting of Revelation chapter 11! The ONLY figurative language in verse 8 is about the city where Jesus was crucified! It was clearly Jerusalem figuratively called Sodom & Egypt! Those two witnesses will get killed exactly there at the end of the first half of Dan.9:27 and their bodies will not get buried! Thus those people will get to gaze upon their dead bodies for 3.5 days! Then they get resurrected and caught up to Heaven! Remember that after Jesus was raised from thew dead, He stayed on earth for some 40 days before ascending up to heaven in Acts chapter one! So read & Heed with no further Twisting ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) ----------------------------------

Revelation 11:9​

New International Version​

9 For three and a half days ( what you accused me of adding 101G ) some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. ---------------------------

Revelation 11:8​

New International Version​

8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city ( yes Jerusalem ) —which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. ------------------------------- So NOTE that their dead bodies are NOT figuratively left in the street without burial! Their dead bodies will Literally be left there without getting buried! It is CLEARLY that ONLY Sodom & Egypt are figurative of Literal Jerusalem, where Jesus was crucified! Thus these posted scriptures rebukes your twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) as per 2 Tim.3:16!
 
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FYI, you WRONGFULLY said that I added to the scriptures about their dead bodies being in the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 Days and it was not in the scriptures! I then said that I did NOT add because it is CLEARLY in Rev.11:9! FYI those people in Jerusalen will see their dead bodies for 3.5 days because they were NOT allowed to be buried! Jesus & JTB are NOT those 2 witnesses! They most probably will be Elijiah and either Moses or Enoch! Case closed on your Twisting of Revelation chapter 11! The ONLY figurative language in verse 8 is about the city where Jesus was crucified! It was clearly Jerusalem figuratively called Sodom & Egypt! Those two witnesses will get killed exactly there at the end of the first half of Dan.9:27 and their bodies will not get buried! Thus those people will get to gaze upon their dead bodies for 3.5 days! Then they get resurrected and caught up to Heaven! Remember that after Jesus was raised from thew dead, He stayed on earth for some 40 days before ascending up to heaven in Acts chapter one! So read & Heed with no further Twisting ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) ----------------------------------

Revelation 11:9​

New International Version​

9 For three and a half days ( what you accused me of adding 101G ) some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. ---------------------------

Revelation 11:8​

New International Version​

8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city ( yes Jerusalem ) —which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. ------------------------------- So NOTE that their dead bodies are NOT figuratively left in the street without burial! Their dead bodies will Literally be left there without getting buried! It is CLEARLY that ONLY Sodom & Egypt are figurative of Literal Jerusalem, where Jesus was crucified! Thus these posted scriptures rebukes your twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) as per 2 Tim.3:16!
Also note 101G that Rev.1:8 says those 2 witnesses get killed where their Lord ( Jesus ) was crucified! Thus neither of those two could be Jesus because it CLEARLY states that Jesus is their Lord ! Case closed! -------------------------

Revelation 11:8​

New International Version​

8 Their bodies ( the 2 witnesses ) will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord ( Jesus ) was crucified. ---------------------- Get it?!!!!!!!!!!!! Where those two witnesses LORD ( Jesus ) was crucified! Jesus is the Lord of those 2 and therefore He was not one of those 2! Those 2 are MOST probably the 2 seen at the Transfiguration ( Moses & Elijiah )! You remain rebuked by those scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16! Elijiah is one of the 2 and Jesus is NOT, period!
 
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Also note 101G that Rev.1:8 says those 2 witnesses get killed where their Lord ( Jesus ) was crucified! Thus neither of those two could be Jesus because it CLEARLY states that Jesus is their Lord ! Case closed!
yes, case closed on you.... was not John the Baptist killed in Jerusalem, likewise the Lord Jesus? and is not Jesus "Lord", and is he not ..... "YOUR"/OUR Lord? thank u mr. Narrator.
Their bodies ( the 2 witnesses ) will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord ( Jesus ) was crucified. ---------------------- Get it?!!!!!!!!!!!! Where those two witnesses LORD ( Jesus ) was crucified!
My God R, do u understand anything? where was our Lord crucified at? ........ past tense , now spoken.... Oh my.
Those 2 are MOST probably the 2 seen at the Transfiguration ( Moses & Elijiah )! You remain rebuked by those scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16! Elijiah is one of the 2 and Jesus is NOT, period!
while coming down thew MOUNT OF Transfiguration , Matthew 17:9 "And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead." Matthew 17:10 "And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?" LISTEN, Matthew 17:11 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things." Matthew 17:12 "But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them." Matthew 17:13 "Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."

Man O man the bible just give us the answers.

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yes, case closed on you.... was not John the Baptist killed in Jerusalem, likewise the Lord Jesus? and is not Jesus "Lord", and is he not ..... "YOUR"/OUR Lord? thank u mr. Narrator.

My God R, do u understand anything? where was our Lord crucified at? ........ past tense , now spoken.... Oh my.

while coming down thew MOUNT OF Transfiguration , Matthew 17:9 "And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead." Matthew 17:10 "And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?" LISTEN, Matthew 17:11 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things." Matthew 17:12 "But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them." Matthew 17:13 "Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist."

Man O man the bible just give us the answers.

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When are you going to LEARN how to READ?!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is their ( the Two Witnesses ) LORD as per Rev.11:8! Jesus is NOT His own Lord, He is their Lord! Thus Jesus is NOT one of those 2 witnesses in Rev.11:8! Yes one of them is Elijiah ( Elias ) , BUT the other is Moses and NOT Jesus! Case closed! JTB came in the Spirit of Elijiah as per Luke 1:17 -----------------------

Luke 1:17​

New International Version​

17 And he ( JTB ) will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous—to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.” ------------------------- Now look at what JTB said in John 1:21, 101G --------

John 1:21​

New International Version​

21 They asked him ( JTB ), “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?
He said, “I am not.”
“Are you the Prophet?”
He answered, “No.” --------------------------------------- Case closed 101G! End of debate!
 
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When are you going to LEARN how to READ?!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is their ( the Two Witnesses ) LORD as per Rev.11:8! J
When are you going to LEARN how to READ?!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is their and (our ) LORD as per Rev.1:8! for he is "LORD". now listen, Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
our, our, our, not their, see u added again.

my God when is people will ever LEARN.

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When are you going to LEARN how to READ?!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus is their and (our ) LORD as per Rev.1:8! for he is "LORD". now listen, Revelation 11:8 "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified."
our, our, our, not their, see u added again.

my God when is people will ever LEARN.

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Yes He ( Jesus Christ ) is our Lord & Their Lord! Thus He was NOT one of the 2 Witnesses because He is NOT His Lord, He is the Lord! Case closed! Learn how to read! ------------------------------- Here it is again in this Bible ---------------------------

Revelation 11:8​

New International Version​

8 Their bodies ( the 2 witnesses ) will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord ( Jesus ) was crucified. ------------------------Here it is in the NT Original Greek and the Greek word is Their ( Autos ) and Not Our ( hemeis - for us or our, 101G ) , even though He is Also Our Lord as the KJV shows ---------------- -------------------------

Revelation 11:8​

Mounce Reverse Interlinear New Testament​

8 andkai ·ho theirautos dead bodiesptōma will lie inepi theho streetplatys of theho greatmegas citypolis, ·ho whichhostis symbolicallypneumatikōs is calledkaleō SodomSodoma, orkai EgyptAigyptos, wherehopou alsokai ·ho theirautos Lordkyrios was crucifiedstauroō. ------------------------- Case closed and your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that Jesus is one of the two witnesses of Rev. chapter 11 remains 100% rebuked as per 2 Tim.3:16 concerning those posted scriptures! END of Debate!
 
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Here it is again in this Bible
no, now hear this, "ALL HANDS-ON DECK", this is the captain speaking. Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

good day

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no, now hear this, "ALL HANDS-ON DECK", this is the captain speaking. Revelation 22:11 "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."

good day

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So, where does that tell us that Jesus is one of the two witnesses of Revelation chapter 11?!!!!!!! Rev.1:8 tells us that the 2 witnesses are killed where THEIR ( and of course Our ) LORD was crucified! Hello - that CLEALY means Jesus was NOT one of those 2! Case closed 101G! Learn how to READ!
 
So, where does that tell us that Jesus is one of the two witnesses of Revelation chapter 11?!!!!!!! Rev.1:8 tells us that the 2 witnesses are killed where THEIR ( and of course Our ) LORD was crucified! Hello - that CLEALY means Jesus was NOT one of those 2! Case closed 101G! Learn how to READ!
ERROR, from verses 3 to 11. let's OPEN your EYES WIDE so u may see. Question, "Can a dead man Witness?" no because he's DEAD ... correct. now understand, the ONLY TWO MEN WHO WAS ALIVE, (SPIRITUALLY), AT THAT TIME, was the Lord Jesus, and John the Baptist. for Both had the Holy Spirit from birth. is that clear enough?

did not John come "FROM" God as a WITNESS, not just sent by God? John 1:6 "There was a man sent from God, whose name was John." John 1:7 "The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe."

how many men may believe? .... "ALL" including u and I. my God this is 2 easy not to understand. is not the Lord Jesus the FAITHFUL Witness? Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

it's a shame, God put the information right in one's face and yet they still don't see it.

now the Lord Jesus cannot LIE, and he told us John the Baptist is the Elijah that was to come. now if one cannot the Lords Jesus, then I question their belief. if in Christ Jesus.

if u cannot accept the truth, that's on u.

remember, these things 101G say to u. the book of Revelation is a book of "PAST" events, present events, and "FUTURE" events. akso, just because a vision was shown in heaven do not, repeat, do not mean that the event always took place in heaven. and one other thing. please do not read revelation as if it's in chronological order/

now my last piece of advice. GO TO GOD FOR YOURSELF AND LET HIM TEACH U.

we suggest you read this post again for clarity.

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ERROR, from verses 3 to 11. let's OPEN your EYES WIDE so u may see. Question, "Can a dead man Witness?" no because he's DEAD ... correct. now understand, the ONLY TWO MEN WHO WAS ALIVE, (SPIRITUALLY), AT THAT TIME, was the Lord Jesus, and John the Baptist. for Both had the Holy Spirit from birth. is that clear enough?

did not John come "FROM" God as a WITNESS, not just sent by God? John 1:6 "There was a man sent from God, whose name was John." John 1:7 "The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe."

how many men may believe? .... "ALL" including u and I. my God this is 2 easy not to understand. is not the Lord Jesus the FAITHFUL Witness? Revelation 1:5 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,"

it's a shame, God put the information right in one's face and yet they still don't see it.

now the Lord Jesus cannot LIE, and he told us John the Baptist is the Elijah that was to come. now if one cannot the Lords Jesus, then I question their belief. if in Christ Jesus.

if u cannot accept the truth, that's on u.

remember, these things 101G say to u. the book of Revelation is a book of "PAST" events, present events, and "FUTURE" events. akso, just because a vision was shown in heaven do not, repeat, do not mean that the event always took place in heaven. and one other thing. please do not read revelation as if it's in chronological order/

now my last piece of advice. GO TO GOD FOR YOURSELF AND LET HIM TEACH U.

we suggest you read this post again for clarity.

:ninja:
Absolutely NO ERROR at all 101G! The 2 witnesses of Rev. chapter 11 do NOT have their dead bodies buried! Their dead bodies remain on the streets of Jerusalem for 3.5 days so the people can gaze upon them & celebrate! Jesus' dead body was place in a tomb for 3 days & nights! When He resurrected He stayed on planet earth for 40 days! The 2 Witnesses get resurrected on the streets of Jerusalem and get Immediately raptured to Heaven! Case closed on your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of Rev. chapter 11! -------------- ----------------------

Revelation 11:3-12​

New International Version​

3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and they ( the 2 witnesses - 101G ) stand before the Lord ( Jesus - 101G -- Thus one of them is NOT Jesus ) of the earth.”5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.
7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord ( Jesus - 101G - thus neither can be Jesus 101G ) was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
11 But after the three and a half days the breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on. -------------------------------------------- FYI 101G the 2 witnesses are called They & Their in Rev. ch. 11 and the LORD is Jesus! FYI, Jesus is the LORD of those 2 Witnesses! Thus He ( Jesus ) can NOT be one of those 2 Witnesses! Their bodies lay in the great city where He was crucified! Case closed and END of debate 101G!
 
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Absolutely NO ERROR at all 101G! The 2 witnesses of Rev. chapter 11 do NOT have their dead bodies buried!
so, where is the Lord Jesus Burial Grave, and John's also? post scripture please?
Jesus' dead body was place in a tomb for 3 days & nights! When He resurrected He stayed on planet earth for 40 days! The 2 Witnesses get resurrected on the streets of Jerusalem and get Immediately raptured to Heaven! Case closed on your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of Rev. chapter 11! -------------- ----------------------
Revelation 11:11 "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them." Revelation 11:12 "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."

WHERE IN THE VERSE IT SAY IMMEDATELY? SEE, U ADDED THAT, BY ASSUMPTION. it could have been a week , a day, or even 40 day after they stood...... u again added that. now for your edification, Matthew 27:52 "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose," Matthew 27:53 "And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many." do u understand this verse at all? guess not, now go to God in prayer and ask for understanding..... Oh this is too easy.
FYI 101G the 2 witnesses are called They & Their in Rev. ch. 11 and the LORD is Jesus! FYI, Jesus is the LORD of those 2 Witnesses! Thus He ( Jesus ) can NOT be one of those 2 Witnesses! Their bodies lay in the great city where He was crucified! Case closed and END of debate 101G!
FYI the 2 are called they and their because it's 2 of them. and further FYI, Jesus the Ordinal FIRST is the "LORD" of them..... (SMILE). see u have no clue that the Lord Jesus is an ECHAD of himself in Ordinal designation of FIRST/LORD. and LAST/Lord. as I said, this is just 2 easy not to understand.

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Rev 11:3-4
(3) And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
(4) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

I believe it is a matter of receiving or not receiving God's clear definition of the Candlesticks, The Olive Trees, and the Two Witnesses. Or do we select our own private definition? In Revelation, God has ALREADY very plainly told us that the secret symbolism of the Candlesticks is that they represented the churches. He wasn't ambiguous in the least, He flat out declared this is the revelation of the mystery (that hidden) of the Candlesticks. And of course, His word agrees perfectly with this church being His Witnesses upon whom He endowed the power to prophesy since Pentecost!

According to God, the mystery or hidden meaning of the Candlesticks of Revelation is revealed. It's not Moses, not Elijah, not Enoch, not Jesus, not John the Baptist, it's what God's word plainly said the Candlesticks represents. The Biblical rule is that Scripture interprets Scripture.

Matthew 5:14-16
  • "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
  • Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
  • Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
I see no mystery, I see a Revelation. So there is nothing to "not get" and nothing to puzzle over. The candlesticks represent the Church, period.

It does say the two olive trees because it's saying these are the same as the two Witnesses. You're asking (I assume) why does it say two, when we say it speaks of the Church? God is illustrating that the number two signifies "TRUE" so this is the "TRUE" Church by designating them the two Witnesses. That we might search scripture, comparing the spiritual with the spiritual, to glean from it the law of two witnesses establishing truth. Not two individuals but church bearing the truthful witnesses. As opposed to false witnesses, who also take the name of Christ, but are offended by the truth. But who also inhabits the city? Two Witnesses to bring the truth of the gospel to the world. Just as the 70 were empowered by Christ and sent out two by two precisely for this signification.

Luke 10:1-3

  • "After these things the Lord appointed other seventy also, and sent them two and two before his face into every city and place, whither he himself would come.
  • Therefore said he unto them, The harvest truly is great, but the labourers are few: pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he would send forth labourers into his harvest.
  • Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves."
The model of Two Witnesses is well known in scripture and always designates those with the truth. By the mouth of Two witnesses shall the truth be established is an age-old Biblical principle. And to make sure we understand these represent His True Church, He further enlightens us by also designating CHURCH as the Candlestick (Revelation 1:20) and Olive tree (Romans 11:17). The mystery is revealed, the Candlesticks, which are the Witnesses, are the Church. And the Olive Tree also is designated as such in Romans 11 as the Gentiles are grafted into the Covenant tree. So there really is no mystery, except when Christians won't allow the scriptures to interpret themselves. Revelation is the revealing "OF" the mystery to God's servants. It's not there to confuse, but to enlighten. Candlesticks, Olive Trees or fire from their mouths, they "must" all be interpreted by God, rather than man's fanciful suppositions, assumptions and historical writings.
 
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