The Two Witnesses In Revelation Chapters 11 Bring The Vial Plagues Of God's Wrath

The tribulation of the saints in Israel lasts 42 months. The same 42 months the two witnesses are in the prostitute. The same 42 months those two witnesses are tormenting people.

You been drinking from a spiked punch bowl.

PS, the false prophet is given the same 42 months in scripture.
FYI again the 2 Witnesses ( of Rev.11:3-12 - they do not torment any believers ) are GOD's prophets ( most likely Elijiah & Moses ) who Prophesy for the first half ( 42 months or 3.5 years - the 1,260 days mentioned in Rev.11:3 ) of Daniels 70th seven ( Dan.9:27 ) and it is the 2 Beasts of Rev. chapter 13 ( the AC & FP ) that are in power for the 2nd half of those 7 years ( 3.5 years ) of Dan.9:27, which Matt.24:21 calls the GREAT Tribulation! Thus you're the one that's been drinking from that spiked punch bowl and not me!
 
FYI again the 2 Witnesses ( of Rev.11:3-12 - they do not torment any believers ) are GOD's prophets ( most likely Elijiah & Moses ) who Prophesy for the first half ( 42 months or 3.5 years - the 1,260 days mentioned in Rev.11:3 ) of Daniels 70th seven ( Dan.9:27 ) and it is the 2 Beasts of Rev. chapter 13 ( the AC & FP ) that are in power for the 2nd half of those 7 years ( 3.5 years ) of Dan.9:27, which Matt.24:21 calls the GREAT Tribulation! Thus you're the one that's been drinking from that spiked punch bowl and not me!
No they are doing their tormenting in the final 42 months before Christs coming.The fact that they are resurrected should tell you something .The dead rise when Christ comes.

Christ is in power on resurrection day.


11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.

The Seventh Trumpet​

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”



The earthquake seen here taking place in jerusalem on resurrection day can be seen in other scriptures as well.It when the Lord stands on the mt of olives.
 
FYI again the 2 Witnesses ( of Rev.11:3-12 - they do not torment any believers ) are GOD's prophets ( most likely Elijiah & Moses ) who Prophesy for the first half ( 42 months or 3.5 years - the 1,260 days mentioned in Rev.11:3 ) of Daniels 70th seven ( Dan.9:27 ) and it is the 2 Beasts of Rev. chapter 13 ( the AC & FP ) that are in power for the 2nd half of those 7 years ( 3.5 years ) of Dan.9:27, which Matt.24:21 calls the GREAT Tribulation! Thus you're the one that's been drinking from that spiked punch bowl and not me!
PS
Just so you know.The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit is not the same beast that rises out of the sea.
I've made the same mistake you are at one time till I realized who they both were.
 
PS
Just so you know.The beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit is not the same beast that rises out of the sea.
I've made the same mistake you are at one time till I realized who they both were.
FYI, the Beast out of the the sea ( Rev.13:1 ) is the AC ; the beast out of the earth ( Rev.13:11 - the land ) is the FP ( false Prophet ) , and the beast out of the Pit ( Abyss - Rev.11:7 ) is Apoloyon ( Sp? )!
 
FYI, the Beast out of the the sea ( Rev.13:1 ) is the AC ; the beast out of the earth ( Rev.13:11 - the land ) is the FP ( false Prophet ) , and the beast out of the Pit ( Abyss - Rev.11:7 ) is Apoloyon ( Sp? )!
Yes.I understood that long ago.
The Israeli government is the beast out of the sea.The second beast out of the earth is given to the Israeli government by the king of the north 42 months before the end.It occupys Jerusalem for 1260 days.Tye beast out of the Pit which attacks Jerusalem are a confederation of muslim countries.
3 days after the Muslims have taken control of Jerusalem ,the king of the north destroys the middle east including Jerusalem.
The Samson option.
 
No they are doing their tormenting in the final 42 months before Christs coming.The fact that they are resurrected should tell you something .The dead rise when Christ comes.

Christ is in power on resurrection day.


11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.

The Seventh Trumpet​

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”



The earthquake seen here taking place in jerusalem on resurrection day can be seen in other scriptures as well.It when the Lord stands on the mt of olives.
FYI again the 2 Witnesses prophesy for the FIRST 42 months ( 3.5 years ) of those 7 years of Dan.9:27! Then they get killed & raptured to heaven 3.5 days later as per Rev.11:9-12! Thus you are 100% Wrong to say they are still on earth and NOT in Heaven for the 2nd half ( 3.5 years ) of those 7 years and tormenting people! Case closed! 1 Thess.4:14-17 ( Christ coming for His Bride the church - born again believers ) happens Pre-Trib. and Rev. 11:12 happens Mid. Trib., and His return with His bride following Him in Rev.19:14 happens Post-Trib., so He can REIGN for 1000 years over the surviving Trib. saints as per Rev.20:4-6 in conjunction with Zech.14:4-16! Yes the beheaded Trib. saints get resurrected Post-Trib. so they Too can Reign with Him with His Bride at His side! The surviving Goats who took the 666 Mark get sent to Hell to await the GWTJ of Rev.20:11-15! Oh, and BTW most of the OT saints were Resurrected when Jesus was ( first fruits ) as per Matt.27:52-53! Thus resurrections as First Fruits ( OT saints & Jesus ) then Pre-Trib. ( Christ's Bride ), the Mid-Trib. ( the two Witnesses ) and then Post Trib. ( the beheaded Trib saints ) and Finally at the GWTJ of Rev.20:11-15 for all the unsaved people in Hell so they can get tossed into the Lake of Fire!
 
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FYI again the 2 Witnesses prophesy for the FIRST 42 months ( 3.5 years ) of those 7 years of Dan.9:27! Then they get killed & raptured to heaven 3.5 days later as per Rev.11:9-12! Thus you are 100% Wrong to say they are still on earth and NOT in Heaven for the 2nd half ( 3.5 years ) of those 7 years and tormenting people! Case closed! 1 Thess.4:14-17 ( Christ coming for His Bride the church - born again believers ) happens Pre-Trib. and Rev. 11:12 happens Mid. Trib., and His return with His bride following Him in Rev.19:14 happens Post-Trib., so He can REIGN for 1000 years over the surviving Trib. saints as per Rev.20:4-6 in conjunction with Zech.14:4-16! Yes the beheaded Trib. saints get resurrected Post-Trib. so they Too can Reign with Him with His Bride at His side! The surviving Goats who took the 666 Mark get sent to Hell to await the GWTJ of Rev.20:11-15! Oh, and BTW most of the OT saints were Resurrected when Jesus was as per Matt.27:52-53!
Christ starts reigning the same day the two witnesses are resurrected from the dead.Not 3.5 years later.
See below.

Revelation 11
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


The same earthquake that strikes Jerusalem in verse 13 is spoken of in zech 14 when the Lord stands on mt Olivet.Zech 14 also says the Lord reigns on that day as well.
 
Christ starts reigning the same day the two witnesses are resurrected from the dead.Not 3.5 years later.
See below.

Revelation 11
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.


The same earthquake that strikes Jerusalem in verse 13 is spoken of in zech 14 when the Lord stands on mt Olivet.Zech 14 also says the Lord reigns on that day as well.
100% WRONG again because the AC & FP are in charge of the Great-Trib. or 2nd half ( 3.5years ) of Dan.9:27 and Jesus returns " Immediately After that Great Trib. as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6! So Jesus' 1000 year REIGN happens AFTER Dan.9:27 and NOT in the 2nd half of it as you so WRONGFULLY insist upon! Case closed! So remember that the AC & FP do Not get tossed into the LOF till After the END of Daniels 70th seven years of Dan.9:27!
 
100% WRONG again because the AC & FP are in charge of the Great-Trib. or 2nd half ( 3.5years ) of Dan.9:27 and Jesus returns " Immediately After that Great Trib. as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6! So Jesus' 1000 year REIGN happens AFTER Dan.9:27 and NOT in the 2nd half of it as you so WRONGFULLY insist upon! Case closed! So remember that the AC & FP do Not get tossed into the LOF till After the END of Daniels 70th seven years of Dan.9:27!
You believe revelation 11 Is wrong and you are right.

lol
 
100% WRONG again because the AC & FP are in charge of the Great-Trib. or 2nd half ( 3.5years ) of Dan.9:27 and Jesus returns " Immediately After that Great Trib. as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Rev.19:11-21 & 20:1-6! So Jesus' 1000 year REIGN happens AFTER Dan.9:27 and NOT in the 2nd half of it as you so WRONGFULLY insist upon! Case closed! So remember that the AC & FP do Not get tossed into the LOF till After the END of Daniels 70th seven years of Dan.9:27!
The Lord is in charge of the great trib.On the day the great tribulation begins is when the resurrection takes place.Same day the two witnesses are resurrected.

Dan 12:1-2
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame.

You want to try and say Daniel is wrong and you are right?

Roflol
 
You believe revelation 11 Is wrong and you are right.

lol
Yes the scriptures ( Rev. chapter 11 is 100% right, but your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of those scriptures ( that the 2 Witnesses are on earth tormenting People during the 2nd half of Dan.9:27 - called the Great Trib. in Matt.24:29 ) are dead WRONG! So FYI again those 2 Witnesses are taken to Heaven just 3.5 days after they Finish their work of Prophesy in the first half of Dan.9:27 as per Rev.11:7-12! Case closed!
 
The Lord is in charge of the great trib.On the day the great tribulation begins is when the resurrection takes place.Same day the two witnesses are resurrected.

Dan 12:1-2
And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to reproach and everlasting shame.

You want to try and say Daniel is wrong and you are right?

Roflol
FYI, the Lord ( Jesus ) as God the Word who created everything is ALWAYS in charge, but He will NOT REIGN on earth for 1000 Years till AFTER the end of the Great Trib. as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Zech.14:4 & Rev.20:4-6! So at the End of the Great Trib., the AC & FP will get tossed alive into the LOF as per Rev.19:20-20! Then Satan gets bound in the Pit as per Rev.20:1-3! Then Jesus reigns on earth for those SAME 1000 Years that Satan is bound in the Pit as per Rev.20:4-6! Then Satan gets loosed for a short season for his final rebellion as per Rev.20:7 and then get tossed into the LOF where his AC & FP already are! Then the GWTJ of Rev.20:11-15 where all the unsaved get judged & tossed into the LOF! Case closed!
 
Yes the scriptures ( Rev. chapter 11 is 100% right, but your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of those scriptures ( that the 2 Witnesses are on earth tormenting People during the 2nd half of Dan.9:27 - called the Great Trib. in Matt.24:29 ) are dead WRONG! So FYI again those 2 Witnesses are taken to Heaven just 3.5 days after they Finish their work of Prophesy in the first half of Dan.9:27 as per Rev.11:7-12! Case closed!
Actually it's revelation that says the two witnesses are tormenting people.
 
FYI, the Lord ( Jesus ) as God the Word who created everything is ALWAYS in charge, but He will NOT REIGN on earth for 1000 Years till AFTER the end of the Great Trib. as per Matt.24:29-30 in conjunction with Zech.14:4 & Rev.20:4-6! So at the End of the Great Trib., the AC & FP will get tossed alive into the LOF as per Rev.19:20-20! Then Satan gets bound in the Pit as per Rev.20:1-3! Then Jesus reigns on earth for those SAME 1000 Years that Satan is bound in the Pit as per Rev.20:4-6! Then Satan gets loosed for a short season for his final rebellion as per Rev.20:7 and then get tossed into the LOF where his AC & FP already are! Then the GWTJ of Rev.20:11-15 where all the unsaved get judged & tossed into the LOF! Case closed!
You still don't get it.
The great tribulation is the day of the Lord when the Lord comes.On that day the heavens will burn with a fervent heat and the elements shall be melted.That is the day the beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire.

Did you think the day of the Lord would be a pleasant day?Ohhhhh no.
There will be great tribulation the day the Lord comes unlike there has ever been.
 
I am sorry but many of you guys got the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11 all misunderstood. You are thinking that the two witnesses will be two literal men coming back from the past with some supernatural power that will literally burn people with fire out of their mouths. Huh?! That is purely premillennial fantasy that do not know Gospel Truth.

First, let's find out who Two Witnesses really are:

Rev 11:3-4
(3) And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
(4) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

The two witnesses "represent" the true believers of the church who have received power with the Holy Ghost bringing true testimony to the world.

Act 1:8

(8) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

This is God giving His witnesses POWER to witness the gospel to the whole Earth. They are CHRISTIANS! Not two literal men! THe reason why God used the number two (2) is to represent Truth. Thus His witnesses were sent out to the world with the testimony of Truth! Selah!

That's why we read that the word from their mouth is "as" fire (judgment). Because it is the witness of God's Word, not their own. The true believers in Christ are symbolized by these two witnesses because (comparing scripture with scripture) this is God's model or pattern illustrating truth. We see in scripture that God instituted that a "minimum" of two witnesses was the paradigm establishing what is the truth, as I said. For example:

Deuteronomy 17:6
  • "At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death."
Deuteronomy 19:15
  • "One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established."
So we see in the law of God, it was required that a minimum of two witnesses must testify "before" someone's judgment/testimony should be considered trustworthy. In other words, they were not to accept the word of just one witness as truth that anyone could be judged, the word had to be by at least two witnesses to establish the truth of it.

John 8:16-18
  • "And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
  • It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
  • I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me."
Christ declares that in the Scriptures, the testimony of two men was sufficient to establish that a thing was true. So the witness of the Word and that of his Father should suffice to establish righteous judgment. And also as an example of this, do you recall that Christ sent the 70 out to witness two by two. Again, established the model that this signified they were coming with the truth of the gospel, the true testimony of Christ. Or in another passage:

Matthew 18:16
  • "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established."
Again, very clearly God has designated the minimum of "Two Witnesses" that their word is established as truth.

2nd Corinthians 13:1
  • "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."

Here again, the Apostle Paul quotes the law in demonstrating to the people that what he is declaring to them is true.

So back to Revelation 11, the designation of the Two Witnesses here is to SIGNIFY that these born-again Christians of God come in the spirit of truth, and with the Word of truth. Every word is established as true because they don't come preaching their own word, but testifying from the Word of God. For example, you will hear Christians say a lot of things, but it is only those whom you hear "quoting" or faithfully testifying to what God Himself says, who are those with the testimony of Christ (1st Corinthians 1:6). In the real sense, is the difference between the true witnesses of the gospel, and false witnesses. One comes with God's unadulterated word in his mouth, and the other comes with his own word declaring that it is the interpretation of God's word.

Simply put, the two witnesses are synonymous with those who are spoken of as keeping the commandments of God, and that have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Witnesses, because of their testimony, two signify that it is the truth. You can see in verse 7 that as witnesses, God speaks of "their testimony:"

Revelation 11:7
  • "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them."
Near the end of the world, when the purpose of their testimony/witness to bring all Elect into KIngdom of God is FINISHED, that is when God loosened the beast from the bottomless pit where he has been bound since the time of the cross. You need to understand that Christ had to bound Satan in order to build His Church through His witnesses, the Christians that were sent by him to the ends of the Earth with the power to prophesy! This is why the witness of the true believers since the Cross is to building the Church! When the Church is completed, all saved who are to be saved, THEN, and only then, their testimony is finished. Or to put it another way, God's witnesses couldn't be killed (silenced) until after their witness on earth was complete. Selah! ...and, of course, when this occurs, Christ's second coming is imminent!

Now...

Rev 11:4-5
(4) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
(5) And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

The two Olive Trees and two candlesticks signify believers sealed by God with the power to bring gospel truth to the world. Now we need to understand how Christians will spew fire out of their mouth that devoureth their enemies. Do you understand this? You won't unless you go check with the rest of Scripture to find truth...

Actually, both hurt (torment) them because the two witnesses bring God's word of this torment from their mouths. That's why the enemies hate them and want them dead--because they prophesy or declare that they are under judgment. The Elect's testimony of the hurt that the witnesses bring is the torment of God in Word. Exactly why God says their word is like fire and they as wood to it. It judges! The hurt of God's judgment upon the unrighteous by the locusts, and the Witnesses' word of it are two sides of the same coin. Observe carefully:

Revelation 11:5-6
  • "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
  • These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will."
Note that this is synonymous with the judgments God pours out upon the unfaithful. Those who attempt to hurt the elect have no "real" power to do so, but by the Word of God that comes out of the elect's mouth, they are themselves brought under this judgment! For they are worthy. The fire from their mouths, turning waters to blood, stopping rain, etc., are all symbolic images signifying no more salvation for these wicked. Selah! That's the power of God's word against the enemies of God. God's judgment by God's word upon them (those unfaithful, locusts to anyone who would hurt them). ...as contrasted with the fulfillment in the hurt of the locusts upon these unrighteous as judgment. Now moving on to next post...
 
Rev 11:7-10
(7) And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
(8) And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
(9) And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
(10) And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

It is painful, agony and anguish for professed Christians because "truth vexes" or irritates the rebellious. That is why God illustrates to us in the signs of Revelation 11:10 that when those unfaithful of Jerusalem (false prophets/christs and professed christians) kill the witnesses in that church, they are joyful. They are relieved because they no longer have to put up with faithful witnesses that expose their false teachings. The symbolism of them being merry and rejoicing shows how they hated the testimony of the witnesses in what was the spiritual city of Jerusalem where Christ was crucified we see as an apostate. The misery, agony, and anguish they felt from hearing God's Word being hot or cold made them so uncomfortable that it was like torture/torment to them.

Revelation 9:4-5
  • "And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
  • And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man."
When God judged those who didn't have that seal of promise, their judgment is "AS" the torment of a scorpion. They had fallen and Satan's ministers now ruled over them like we are seeing in many churches today. The election Christ gave power over scorpions so that they cannot be hurt by them. Even as He signified this in Luke 10.

Luke 10:19
  • "Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you."
The scorpions will never hurt the Elect (Two Witnesses). But see the enemy is Satan, and his power is through false prophets and christs! God sees them as locusts to inflict the unfaithfulness of the church as a judgment so they will believe a lie! Selah!

This is all part of the gigantic "picture puzzle" of "signs" that God has placed in His word revealing the spiritual truths concerning the wicked, and those messengers who believe, as those who cannot be harmed by them (Mark 16:18). Our witness torments them because God's word speaks of their judgment, which is by serpents and scorpions (false prophets and christs). Back to Revelation 11, Two Witnesses torment them by God's word of judgment which they find incredibly uncomfortable. Please look at the context where God speaks of these two witnesses and makes it obvious their power.

Revelation 11:5

  • "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed."
It is NOT literal fire out of their mouths that destroys people or tanks as premillennialists believe. Rather it is the spiritual fire which is the Word of God "from the mouths" of the messengers of God, just as also signified in Revelation chapter 3. The world doesn't like it, and the unfaithful church doesn't like it. They do not like hearing the Gospel Truth coming out of the mouths of Christians! Unless it is not fire, or unless it is lukewarm and comfortable. This is what false prophets and christs in church preach today and MANY people prefers this!

For example, look at many churches where they start talking about tolerating homosexualities and accepting transgenderism into the church. They talk about allowing women to be pastors. They allow divorce and remarriage. They preach the free will gospel. They preach the prosperity gospel. They are talking about supporting and protecting national Israel. They are bringing in bands and entertainment that made the church looks like a night clubs. They do not preach repentance and hell. The point is, the people do not want to hear harsh things, only things that make them feel good... without the need for repentance. This is the gospel that the false prophets and christs (locusts) brought into church and God allows it! Their abominations have piled up to the point that the church has become spiritually desolate! The abomination of desolation! It is for judgment upon those who are not faithful (or not yet sealed by God, Revelation 9)! The Elect (Two Witnesses) will eventually "see" the abomination of desolation and come out of their church. The church has become a harlot because she has become the home of the false prophets and christs today. She is Mystery Babylon of Revelation 18. She is a mystery to many unfaithful people in the church because they will deny that God would judge their church or that the church is in trouble. Well, remember why sons-in-law mocked Lot about his warning to leave the city of Sodom? THe Old Testament is an example for us in the New Testament because the New Testament congregation, the home of Two Witnesses, is the church! Not Israel in the Middle East. After the testimony of Two Witnesses, she has become a harlot and agrees to ride upon the beast.

People, some of you are looking in the wrong place. God is NOT talking about Israel in the middle east. God is not talking about two literal jewish men in Israel. God is not talking about literal city in the Middle East, Rome, or America. You need to have spiritual eyes and ears to know the TRUTH about what God declared in Revelation. Forget world news, or false prophets' books on prophecies. Stick with the Scripture to find out Truth... if you are sealed with God's spirit.

Case closed, Rod.ney. :)
 
You still don't get it.
The great tribulation is the day of the Lord when the Lord comes.On that day the heavens will burn with a fervent heat and the elements shall be melted.That is the day the beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire.

Did you think the day of the Lord would be a pleasant day?Ohhhhh no.
There will be great tribulation the day the Lord comes unlike there has ever been.
FYI the Day of the Lord is as 1000 years for us humans as per Psalm 90:4 in conjunction with 2 Peter 3:8! Thus you're the one who does NOT get it correctly! So case closed on your twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the Lord REIGNS on earth for the 2nd half of Dan.9;27! FYI God leaves the AC & FP in control of the 2nd half till the END of it! That AC ( MOL ) of 2 Thess.2:4 will go in the Jews rebuilt temple and demand worship as God in the middle of Dan.9:27, just after the 2 witnesses get killed & raptured to heaven 3.5 days after the 1st half of Dan.9:27 as per Rev.11:7-12! So again the 2nd half of Dan.9:27 is where the AC ( beast out of the sea - Rev.13:1 or MOL - 2 Thess.2:4 ) sets himself up as God in the Jews rebuilt Temple! End of your Twisted view!
 
Actually it's revelation that says the two witnesses are tormenting people.
Again it is Revelation chapter 11 and it CLEARLY states that they Prophesy for the first 1260 days ( 3.5 years ) of Dan.9:27! Then they get killed & raptured to Heaven in the MIDDLE of that seven years as per Rev.11:7-12! Thus you are still 100% WRONG to insist that they are still on earth tormenting people in the 2nd half of Dan.9:27 instead of in Heaven as Rev.11:12 CLEARLY states! Case closed on your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) of Rev. chapter 11 in conjunction with Dan.9:27 & 2 Thess 2:1-8! FYI the Bride of Christ gets Raptured ( Caught Up ) to Heaven Pre-Trib. in 1 Thess.4:14-17 before the MOL or AC gets to REVEAL himself in 2 Thess.2:1-8! You're view remains rebuked by those posted scriptures as per 2 Tim.3:16!
 
I am sorry but many of you guys got the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11 all misunderstood. You are thinking that the two witnesses will be two literal men coming back from the past with some supernatural power that will literally burn people with fire out of their mouths. Huh?! That is purely premillennial fantasy that do not know Gospel Truth.

First, let's find out who Two Witnesses really are:

Rev 11:3-4
(3) And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
(4) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

The two witnesses "represent" the true believers of the church who have received power with the Holy Ghost bringing true testimony to the world.

Act 1:8

(8) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

This is God giving His witnesses POWER to witness the gospel to the whole Earth. They are CHRISTIANS! Not two literal men! THe reason why God used the number two (2) is to represent Truth. Thus His witnesses were sent out to the world with the testimony of Truth! Selah!

That's why we read that the word from their mouth is "as" fire (judgment). Because it is the witness of God's Word, not their own. The true believers in Christ are symbolized by these two witnesses because (comparing scripture with scripture) this is God's model or pattern illustrating truth. We see in scripture that God instituted that a "minimum" of two witnesses was the paradigm establishing what is the truth, as I said. For example:

Deuteronomy 17:6
  • "At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death."
Deuteronomy 19:15
  • "One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established."
So we see in the law of God, it was required that a minimum of two witnesses must testify "before" someone's judgment/testimony should be considered trustworthy. In other words, they were not to accept the word of just one witness as truth that anyone could be judged, the word had to be by at least two witnesses to establish the truth of it.

John 8:16-18
  • "And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
  • It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
  • I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me."
Christ declares that in the Scriptures, the testimony of two men was sufficient to establish that a thing was true. So the witness of the Word and that of his Father should suffice to establish righteous judgment. And also as an example of this, do you recall that Christ sent the 70 out to witness two by two. Again, established the model that this signified they were coming with the truth of the gospel, the true testimony of Christ. Or in another passage:

Matthew 18:16
  • "But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established."
Again, very clearly God has designated the minimum of "Two Witnesses" that their word is established as truth.

2nd Corinthians 13:1
  • "This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."

Here again, the Apostle Paul quotes the law in demonstrating to the people that what he is declaring to them is true.

So back to Revelation 11, the designation of the Two Witnesses here is to SIGNIFY that these born-again Christians of God come in the spirit of truth, and with the Word of truth. Every word is established as true because they don't come preaching their own word, but testifying from the Word of God. For example, you will hear Christians say a lot of things, but it is only those whom you hear "quoting" or faithfully testifying to what God Himself says, who are those with the testimony of Christ (1st Corinthians 1:6). In the real sense, is the difference between the true witnesses of the gospel, and false witnesses. One comes with God's unadulterated word in his mouth, and the other comes with his own word declaring that it is the interpretation of God's word.

Simply put, the two witnesses are synonymous with those who are spoken of as keeping the commandments of God, and that have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Witnesses, because of their testimony, two signify that it is the truth. You can see in verse 7 that as witnesses, God speaks of "their testimony:"

Revelation 11:7
  • "And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them."
Near the end of the world, when the purpose of their testimony/witness to bring all Elect into KIngdom of God is FINISHED, that is when God loosened the beast from the bottomless pit where he has been bound since the time of the cross. You need to understand that Christ had to bound Satan in order to build His Church through His witnesses, the Christians that were sent by him to the ends of the Earth with the power to prophesy! This is why the witness of the true believers since the Cross is to building the Church! When the Church is completed, all saved who are to be saved, THEN, and only then, their testimony is finished. Or to put it another way, God's witnesses couldn't be killed (silenced) until after their witness on earth was complete. Selah! ...and, of course, when this occurs, Christ's second coming is imminent!

Now...

Rev 11:4-5
(4) These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
(5) And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

The two Olive Trees and two candlesticks signify believers sealed by God with the power to bring gospel truth to the world. Now we need to understand how Christians will spew fire out of their mouth that devoureth their enemies. Do you understand this? You won't unless you go check with the rest of Scripture to find truth...

Actually, both hurt (torment) them because the two witnesses bring God's word of this torment from their mouths. That's why the enemies hate them and want them dead--because they prophesy or declare that they are under judgment. The Elect's testimony of the hurt that the witnesses bring is the torment of God in Word. Exactly why God says their word is like fire and they as wood to it. It judges! The hurt of God's judgment upon the unrighteous by the locusts, and the Witnesses' word of it are two sides of the same coin. Observe carefully:

Revelation 11:5-6
  • "And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
  • These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will."
Note that this is synonymous with the judgments God pours out upon the unfaithful. Those who attempt to hurt the elect have no "real" power to do so, but by the Word of God that comes out of the elect's mouth, they are themselves brought under this judgment! For they are worthy. The fire from their mouths, turning waters to blood, stopping rain, etc., are all symbolic images signifying no more salvation for these wicked. Selah! That's the power of God's word against the enemies of God. God's judgment by God's word upon them (those unfaithful, locusts to anyone who would hurt them). ...as contrasted with the fulfillment in the hurt of the locusts upon these unrighteous as judgment. Now moving on to next post...
FYI again they are in FACT Two men ( most probably Moses & Elijiah ) because they get killed when they finish their 1,260 days ( 3.5 years ) of Prophesy in Rev. chapter 11! Then their dead bodies remain for 3.5 days in the streets of Jerusalem without getting buried as per Rev.11:7! Then they get Rapture to Heaven at the end of those 3.5 days ( Rev.11:12 )! Case closed on your Twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 )!
 
FYI the Day of the Lord is as 1000 years for us humans as per Psalm 90:4 in conjunction with 2 Peter 3:8! Thus you're the one who does NOT get it correctly! So case closed on your twisted view ( 2 Peter 3:16 ) that the Lord REIGNS on earth for the 2nd half of Dan.9;27! FYI God leaves the AC & FP in control of the 2nd half till the END of it! That AC ( MOL ) of 2 Thess.2:4 will go in the Jews rebuilt temple and demand worship as God in the middle of Dan.9:27, just after the 2 witnesses get killed & raptured to heaven 3.5 days after the 1st half of Dan.9:27 as per Rev.11:7-12! So again the 2nd half of Dan.9:27 is where the AC ( beast out of the sea - Rev.13:1 or MOL - 2 Thess.2:4 ) sets himself up as God in the Jews rebuilt Temple! End of your Twisted view!
FYI. The Lord doesn't return everyday for 1000 years.The day he returns is the day of the Lord.


Amos 5:18
Woe to you who long for the day of the LORD! Why do you long for the day of the LORD? That day will be darkness, not light.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION
The day of the Lord is not 1000 years of darkness as you claim.Its a day.
 
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