No everyone is not savedThat leaves out all the deaf who were told the word of God but never had faith. Hearing is a gift of God.
12 The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.
In your mind is everyone on earth saved because someone told them to believe or read the Bible verses to them?
I've reported you for breaking the rules.
My name is not "Janice".
And this is a public discussion forum, not a private email, so I'm perfectly welcome to respond to ANY post I choose.
And I will not disrespect you, Doug, as you have disrespected me.
I will however respectfully suggest you follow your own advice from your signature, "dare to be gracious". Referring to me as "Janice" Is anything BUT "gracious". Pray on it.
But (as we both know) "All" won't be willing to die to themselves and LIVE in Him, as born again Christians do, and so make Jesus' death of no value to themselves, by their own choice.But he would not preach an untruth. Christ died for all
The devils "believe" but aren't "saved"No everyone is not saved
God saves those that believe
MOST apparently won't (Mat 7:14). The Visible churches are a mixture of WHEAT (Born Again Christians), and TARES (religious folks with "beliefs" and but no FAITH, or Born Again experience) to varying percentage by volume.1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
not everyone does
No actually Eph 2:8 does not indicate faith is a giftThe devils "believe" but aren't "saved"
MOST apparently won't (Mat 7:14). The Visible churches are a mixture of WHEAT (Born Again Christians), and TARES (religious folks with "beliefs" and but no FAITH, or Born Again experience) to varying percentage by volume.
Eph 2: 8,9 indicates that the FAITH to be Born again is gifted by God. It occurs when a person is CONVICTED by the Holy Spirit of their SIN, and repents/surrenders to God. "Belief" (mental assent) doesn't get 'er done - FAITH (Heb 11:1) does, and it's Gifted by God - Conviction of SIN being the beginning of it, and Repentance being the human reaction to the Conviction.
I would say there is only one Systematic Theology. Differences could be attributed to stopping short; or going too far. Stopping short can be seen in leaving out John 3:16 or John 6:24. I know both sides say they don't leave anything out, but that can be put to the test. Going too far could be seen in applying Verses to a topic they do not belong to; for instance, John 1:1-2 belong to Christology instead of to Soteriology. I'm not saying this misapplication is going on here...Then there is the systematic theology that’s right and the one that’s wrong . As the remonstrance and Dort proves .
Roman Catholicism is an example of a system of Theology that goes too far; including alien sources to their Systematic that do not belong. This is why there is only one True Systematic Theology...Catholics have truth mixed with error to as do many other religions . It’s why I reject them . If one just sticks with the Bible instead of religions named after men they would be much closer to knowing the truth .
I would say it's a Slam Dunk on 6:44 because Arminians and Calvinists agree on it's Meaning; right? No one can come to Christ unless God the Father Efficaciously Works in their lives first. We may quibble (or wage War) over the English Translation of it's Greek wording; but not over it's Meaning; it's why you embrace Total Depravity...Except who is right Calvin or Arminius on John 6:44. It’s not a slam dunk for your side since it’s debatable as we are seeing here on some threads .
A good systematic theology is where both sides agree on the essentials and not their doctrinal positions on tulip or the 5 articles . In each example above there is bias. So bias in this case disproves “ good “ systematic theology .
You know what Theo is going to say about thatRead the threads there are 100’s of examples . Divine meticulous determinism and double predestination are just two examples . Every non Calvinists on the forum opposes them , dislikes them and some hate those doctrines .
There is no dragging, kicking, and screaming. There is a remakable change that I couldn't cause to happen to my unbelieving siblings. Only God can bring a person to faith. Christians can plant seeds. Not all seeds take root and grow.I'm not into the belief that God is the sole active agent in salvation. Or that only saving grace given to the elect to regenerate them and to give them new birth is irresistible and effectual. Thats to much like coercion to me. The dragging, kicking and screaming scenario
I'm a Calvinist. I was not forced to believe.The Holy Spirit does not overwhelm and force the person to repent and believe; rather, the Holy Spirit transforms the person’s heart so that they want to repent and believe.
Perhaps He compelled Jonah to do His will. Hallelujah!They choose to believe and that decision to believe is the most important choice we ever make. It shapes all our other decisions. God does not compel us to believe any more than He compels us to keep any commandments, despite His perfect desire to have us come to Him.
Is something unclear with my English?Hello Janice, it’s nice to meet you. This said, I’m not sure what you’re trying to tell me?
Exactly my point: preaching doesn't grant everyone faith. God gave me faith ---only one of six children. I turned on Billy Graham when my mother was at work. I just wanted to hear what he was saying. My older sister walked over and shut off the TV. She said, "Mother doesn't want you to watch that!" Really? I wasn't a Christian. Why was my mother against it? Mother had told me that we could each decide what to believe when we became adults. She didn't tell me that Billy Graham ws a bad guy.No everyone is not saved
God saves those that believe
1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
not everyone does
The same goes for you.Then you have no gospel, you only have a potential message of good news and hope because it may or may not for the one hearing it.
The same goes for you.It also says that you are not really interested in the soul you are speaking with, because you don't know if they are Elect or not, but you are just doing what you are told to do.
"So to speak." All of your statements, so far, are based primarily on your position.There is no deep, personal investment like Paul does for his fellow Israelites in Rom 9. If you cannot believe that I can certainly be saved, that God truly wants to save everyone you speak to,
Same is true for you.then you cannot honestly say you have good news to bring to their ears. It may or may not be that I can be saved!
You have NO MORE IDEA who GoD is going to save than you say a Calvinist has ...