the word God appears does NOT refer specifically to any single member

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Yahchristian

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johnny guitar said:
NO, NOT in any passage. Many passages in which the word God appears does NOT refer specifically to any single member.
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So in all of those passages Trinitarians do not know WHO the word God refers to.

For example...

WHO hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation?

2 Thessalonians 2:13... But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

In contrast to the Trinitarian view that God is one WHAT three WHO...

I believe God is ONE WHO, YHWH (GOD).

Here is a summary of what I believe...

GOD is spirit and is the only one who is eternal. GOD is also in the universe as spirit and as a human. GOD in the universe as spirit is called the Spirit of God, GOD in the universe as a human is called the Son of God, and eternal GOD is called God the Father.
 
Yahchristian said:
So in all of those passages Trinitarians do not know WHO the word God refers to.

For example...

WHO hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation?

2 Thessalonians 2:13... But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

In contrast to the Trinitarian view that God is one WHAT three WHO...

I believe God is ONE WHO, YHWH (GOD).

Here is a summary of what I believe...

GOD is spirit and is the only one who is eternal. GOD is also in the universe as spirit and as a human. GOD in the universe as spirit is called the Spirit of God, GOD in the universe as a human is called the Son of God, and eternal GOD is called God the Father.
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In 2 Thess 2:13 God refers to The Triune God.
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Yahchristian said:
So in all of those passages Trinitarians do not know WHO the word God refers to.

For example...

WHO hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation?

2 Thessalonians 2:13... But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

In contrast to the Trinitarian view that God is one WHAT three WHO...

I believe God is ONE WHO, YHWH (GOD).

Here is a summary of what I believe...

GOD is spirit and is the only one who is eternal. GOD is also in the universe as spirit and as a human. GOD in the universe as spirit is called the Spirit of God, GOD in the universe as a human is called the Son of God, and eternal GOD is called God the Father.
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My understanding is:

Gen 1:1
(1) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

All time, space, mater and energy ... or as you say, the universe'.

Joh 1:1-3
(1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(2) The same was in the beginning with God.
(3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

All things means all creation including created spiritual beings of any kind so then the Word of God is necessarily co eternal with God as is the Spirit of God.

As for human beings

Gen 1:26
(26) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: ....

Who is "us" if not the Father, Son & Holy Spirit ?


Joh 1:14
(14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
 
eyesmile said:
Who is "us" if not the Father, Son & Holy Spirit ?
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Incarnate GOD & GOD as spirit.

What is “in his image” if not in the image of incarnate GOD ?


But the question of this thread is...

WHO hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation?
 
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Yahchristian said:
Incarnate GOD & GOD as spirit.

What is “in his image” if not in the image of incarnate GOD ?


But the question of this thread is...

WHO hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation?
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God is spirit.

Incarnate is to embody in flesh.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.


Scripture states .. Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.

Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

WHO hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation?

God


As for any dichotomy in predestined and freewill here's an ECF excerpt that helped me clarify foreknowledge.

St. John of Damascus
Chapter XXX.—Concerning Prescience and Predestination.

""We ought to understand that while God knows all things beforehand, yet He does not predetermine all things. For He knows beforehand those things that are in our power, but He does not predetermine them. For it is not His will that there should be wickedness nor does He choose to compel virtue. So that predetermination is the work of the divine command based on fore-knowledge.
But on the other hand God predetermines those things which are not within our power in accordance with His prescience.
For already God in His prescience has prejudged all things in accordance with His goodness and justice."

"Bear in mind, too that virtue is a gift from God implanted in our nature, and that
He Himself is the source and cause of all good, and without His co-operation and help
we cannot will or do any good thing. But we have it in our power either to abide in virtue
and follow God, Who calls us into ways of virtue, or to stray from paths of virtue, which is
to dwell in wickedness, and to follow the devil who summons but cannot compel us.
For wickedness is nothing else than the withdrawal of goodness, just as darkness is nothing else
than the withdrawal of light. While then we abide in the natural state we abide in virtue,
but when we deviate from the natural state, that is from virtue, we come into an unnatural
state and dwell in wickedness.""
 
Yahchristian said:
Just to clarify your Trinitarian view...

What is “in his image” if not in the image of incarnate GOD ?
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Necessarily spiritual not carnal for God is spirit.

Adams transgression marred the spiritual image and likeness bestowed on man and the Word of God became man ( Christ Jesus) to redeem mankind and restore it.

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

1Jn 3:2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.
 
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