The Words of Job

Buzzard

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Proverbs 1:1
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David,
king of Israel;

2 To know wisdom and instruction;
to perceive the words of understanding;

3 To receive the instruction of wisdom,
justice, and judgment, and equity;

4 To give subtilty to the simple,
to the young man knowledge and discretion.

5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning;
and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:

6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation;
the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

My son, hear the instruction of thy father,
and forsake not the law of thy mother:



-------Wisdom-----
so who is this Lady known as Wisdom

Paul says
But Jerusalem which is above is free,
which is the mother of us all
.

Wisdom crieth without;
she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse,
in the openings of the gates:
in the city she uttereth her words,
saying,

22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?
and the scorners delight in their scorning,
and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof:
behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you,
I will make known my words unto you.

24 Because I have called, and ye refused;
I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel,
and would none of my reproof:

26 I also will laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as desolation,
and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind;
when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

28 Then shall they call upon me,
but I will not answer;
they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

29 For that they hated knowledge,
and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
30 They would none of my counsel:
they despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way,
and be filled with their own devices.

32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them,
and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely,

and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

Proverbs 8:22
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.


Proverbs 1:1
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David,
king of Israel;
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation;
the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
Proverbs 1:1
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David,
king of Israel;
2 To know wisdom and instruction;
to perceive the words of understanding;
3 To receive the instruction of wisdom,
justice, and judgment, and equity;
4 To give subtilty to the simple,
to the young man knowledge and discretion.
5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning;
and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation;
the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
My son, hear the instruction of thy father,
and forsake not the law of thy mother:
-------Wisdom-----
so who is this Lady known as Wisdom
Paul says
{G 4:26} But Jerusalem which is above is free,
which is the mother of us all.
{20} Wisdom crieth without;
she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse,
in the openings of the gates:
in the city she uttereth her words,
saying,
22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?
and the scorners delight in their scorning,
and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof:
behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you,
I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye refused;
I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel,
and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as desolation,
and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind;
when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
28 Then shall they call upon me,
but I will not answer;
they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge,
and did not choose the fear of the Lord:
30 They would none of my counsel:
they despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way,
and be filled with their own devices.
32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them,
and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely,

and shall be quiet from fear of evil.
Proverbs 8:22
The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Proverbs 1:1
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David,
king of Israel;
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation;
the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
"The Words of Job", Where in your post ???

"so who is this Lady known as Wisdom", Is this your question to start the discussion ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
 
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Buzzard

Active member
Proverbs 1:1
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David,
king of Israel;
.......
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation;

the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.

My son, hear the instruction of thy father,

and forsake not the law of thy mother:

the 1st of the 7 Parables Christ Spake in Matt.13 was about these folks

And he spake many things unto them in parables,
saying,
Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,

and the fowls came and devoured them up:
........................

Mk. 4:9
And he said unto them,
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
now he asks his disciples this

And he said unto them,
Know ye not this parable?
o_O
how then will ye know all parables?

14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side,

where the word is sown;

so Michael
Who are these "Waysiders"

Moreover Job continued his parable,
and said, .........


If you want to know who
these are they by the way side,

Job will tell you
you can start here

Job 12:1

And Job answered and said,
2 No doubt but ye are the people,
and wisdom shall die with you.

Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,

and the fowls came and devoured them up:
Rev.18:2
Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,
and is become the habitation of devils,
and the hold of every foul spirit,
and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
Proverbs 1:1
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David,
king of Israel;
.......
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation;

the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
My son, hear the instruction of thy father,

and forsake not the law of thy mother:
the 1st of the 7 Parables Christ Spake in Matt.13 was about these folks
And he spake many things unto them in parables,
saying,
Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,

and the fowls came and devoured them up:
........................
Mk. 4:9
And he said unto them,
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
now he asks his disciples this
And he said unto them,
Know ye not this parable?
o_O
how then will ye know all parables?
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side,

where the word is sown;
so Michael
Who are these "Waysiders"
Moreover Job continued his parable,
and said, .........

If you want to know who
these are they by the way side,
Job will tell you
you can start here
Job 12:1

And Job answered and said,
2 No doubt but ye are the people,
and wisdom shall die with you.
Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,

and the fowls came and devoured them up:
Rev.18:2
Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen,
and is become the habitation of devils,
and the hold of every foul spirit,
and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
You pretty much answered your own question.

But you left out a couple of key verses ...

AV Mt 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

They are not on "the way" "to destruction", but neither are they on "the way" "unto life".

They need to make a decision soon or "and the fowls came and devoured them up" to be lost.

AV Jn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus said it plainly here. So they need to choose a "side" and go through that "the way".

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

Buzzard

Active member
You pretty much answered your own question.

But you left out a couple of key verses ...

AV Mt 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Yours in Christ, Michael
No Michael;
the question was not about the Gate nor Strait is the Way
that is found Moses (Genesis) and a subject for another thread
Remember ye the law of Moses my servant,
which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,
with the statutes and judgments.

The Question was and still is
Who are these :devilish: "Waysiders" :devilish:

Moreover Job continued his parable,
and said, .........

If you want to know who
"these are they by the way side,"
Job will tell you
you can start here
Job 12:1
And Job answered and said,
2 No doubt but ye are the people,
and wisdom shall die with you.
 
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SDAchristian

Well-known member
No Michael;
the question was not about the Gate nor Strait is the Way
that is found Moses (Genesis) and a subject for another thread
Remember ye the law of Moses my servant,
which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel,
with the statutes and judgments.

The Question was and still is
Who are these :devilish: "Waysiders" :devilish:

Moreover Job continued his parable,
and said, .........

If you want to know who
"these are they by the way side,"
Job will tell you
you can start here
Job 12:1
And Job answered and said,
2 No doubt but ye are the people,
and wisdom shall die with you.
AV Re 7:13-14 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

"The Question was and still is Who are these :devilish: "Waysiders" :devilish: ", 'Sir, thou knowest', then do tell please ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

Buzzard

Active member
"The Words of Job", Where in your post ???

"so who is this Lady known as Wisdom", Is this your question to start the discussion ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
No, Michael;
I know her well,
she carried me in her womb
my father was there when I was brought forth
I have nursed at her Breast
It was she that changed my Diapers and wipped my runny nose,
"and was doddled on her Knees"


I know her well;
but all you are is; A child of the Concubines of the Pope,
You, Michael;
are not even a child of the Bond Woman
Gal.ch.4

you know of Her;
------ <but>------
her Voice, you know not

Proverbs; Proverbs, Michael
The Words of the Wise Man
A whoreish Woman is Your Momma
 
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Buzzard

Active member
Numbers 19:1
And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying,
Speak unto the children of Israel,
that they bring thee
#1: -- a red heifer
#2: -- without spot,
#3: -- wherein is no blemish,
#4: --and upon which never came a yoke:
(Never Yoked to Man, nor Councils of Men and their Codes and Creeds)

I shouldn't have to explain what these 4 things represent in the New Covenant
to you Michael, all you would do is
"Trample it under your Feet"

#1: a red heifer
#2: without spot,
#3: wherein is no blemish,
#4: and upon which never came a yoke:

God’s Soap Recipe
The Red Heifer
by Kyle Butt, M.Div.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apco...13&article=517
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Now, wherefore did Moses say, You shall not --------------------------
Moreover, You shall not eat
the hyena.
He means, You shall not be an adulterer, nor a corrupter,
nor be like to them that are such.
Wherefore? Because that animal annually changes its sex,

and is at one time male, and at another female.
(And the LGBT s were in the Days of Noah, and Sodom of old also
pounding on Lot's Door)
Moreover, he has rightly detested the weasel.
For he means, You shall not be like to those whom we hear of as committing wickedness with the mouth,
on account of their uncleanness;

nor shall you be joined to those impure women who commit iniquity with the mouth.

Michael spouts before putting Brain in Gear
You know the "heifer" was a type of Christ, Right ???

No; Michael;
the Red Heifer was "A FEMALE" do you know the difference
:unsure:
from a Bull and a Heifer / Male and Female

Michael, Christ was Not a Hyena, he was not an Abomination;
He was the Lamb of God, Michael'
"and he speaks great Swelling words of Blasphemy against
God, the Son and the Bride
"


Man Michael;
and all sorts of Blasphemy comes form you Keyboard
Just a "Dummy" setting in the Lap of your Master
lipsynk-in the words they speak

Michael;
The Gods of the SDA's don't know Squat-ola
quit just repeating what :devilish:the Elders :devilish:of your church tell you
 
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Lottan

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Is there not wisdom in Christ’s words? Did Moses not write of Christ? Did not Christ refer to Moses? Howbeit then can we understand Christ without a foundation in Moses and Job? Oh how did I ever miss this thread? Zoom again it is for me to ate in room.
 
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Lottan

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The Question was and still is
Who are these :devilish: "Waysiders" :devilish:
Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,

and the fowls came and devoured them up:
........................

Mk. 4:9
And he said unto them,
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
now he asks his disciples this
...
14 The sower soweth the word.
15 And these are they by the way side,

where the word is sown;
...
Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side,

and the fowls came and devoured them up:
Uncovered the seed is: access to the seed the fowl has. Unprepared the soil is.
 
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Lottan

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To understand who the waysiders are, have an understanding of where Eli sat and why we must.
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
Numbers 19:1
And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD hath commanded, saying,
Speak unto the children of Israel,
that they bring thee
#1: -- a red heifer
#2: -- without spot,
#3: -- wherein is no blemish,
#4: --and upon which never came a yoke:
(Never Yoked to Man, nor Councils of Men and their Codes and Creeds)
I shouldn't have to explain what these 4 things represent in the New Covenant
to you Michael, all you would do is
"Trample it under your Feet"
#1: a red heifer
#2: without spot,
#3: wherein is no blemish,
#4: and upon which never came a yoke:
God’s Soap Recipe
The Red Heifer
by Kyle Butt, M.Div.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/apco...13&article=517
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, wherefore did Moses say, You shall not --------------------------
Moreover, You shall not eat
the hyena.
He means, You shall not be an adulterer, nor a corrupter,
nor be like to them that are such.
Wherefore? Because that animal annually changes its sex,

and is at one time male, and at another female.
(And the LGBT s were in the Days of Noah, and Sodom of old also
pounding on Lot's Door)
Moreover, he has rightly detested the weasel.
For he means, You shall not be like to those whom we hear of as committing wickedness with the mouth,
on account of their uncleanness;

nor shall you be joined to those impure women who commit iniquity with the mouth.
Michael spouts before putting Brain in Gear
You know the "heifer" was a type of Christ, Right ???
No; Michael;
the Red Heifer was "A FEMALE" do you know the difference
:unsure:
from a Bull and a Heifer / Male and Female
Michael, Christ was Not a Hyena, he was not an Abomination;
He was the Lamb of God, Michael'
"and he speaks great Swelling words of Blasphemy against
God, the Son and the Bride
"

Man Michael;
and all sorts of Blasphemy comes form you Keyboard
Just a "Dummy" setting in the Lap of your Master
lipsynk-in the words they speak
Michael;
The Gods of the SDA's don't know Squat-ola
quit just repeating what :devilish:the Elders :devilish:of your church tell you
AV Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.

Let me guess, the "shadow of things" as types, are foreign to your understanding as fulfilled spiritual reality "the body [is] of Christ" as anti-type ???

AV Hb 9:13-14 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

I suppose the work "through the eternal Spirit" of the Holy Spirit did not occur to you with the work of Christ ???

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

Buzzard

Active member
Welcome back, Michael;
I am glad you returned, I like your post,
every time you pound your Keyboard,
you are "PROOF"
just how far out in Lou-Lou Land those that listen to
and Lipsynk-in the words of the Gods of the Adventist Church are
Welcome back, Michael
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At first glance, the water of purification sounds like a hodge-podge of superstitious potion-making that included the ashes of a red heifer, hyssop, cedar wood, and scarlet wool. But this formula was the farthest thing from a symbolic potion intended to “ward off evil spirits.” On the contrary, the recipe for the water of purification stands today as a wonderful example of God’s brilliance, since the recipe is nothing less than a procedure to produce an antibacterial soap.
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The various lye-soap recipes reveal that, to obtain lye, water was poured through ashes. The water retrieved from pouring it through the ashes contained a concentration of lye. Lye, in high concentrations, is very caustic and irritating to the skin. It is, in fact, one of the main ingredients in many modern chemical mixtures used to unclog drains.

like Drain-O, Michael,
Do you "Eat" Lye and "Drink" of the Drain-O made from such

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SDA,

AV Ho 4:16 For Israel slideth back as a backsliding heifer: now the LORD will feed them as a lamb in a large place.
:eek:

Michael, Christ was Not A Backslider
You know the "heifer" was a type of Christ, Right ???
No; Michael;
the Red Heifer was "A FEMALE" do you know the difference
:unsure:
from a Bull and a Heifer / Male and Female;
appears not by the words you post

Michael, Christ was Not a Hyena, he was not an Abomination;
He was the Lamb of God, Michael'
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AV Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body [is] of Christ.

Col.2:1
For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you,
and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh
;
....
Paul says to the Laodicea,:
Let :devilish: no man :devilish: therefore judge you in meat, or in drink,
or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the
sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Col.2:1
For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you,
and for them at Laodicea,

So, Michael why are you :devilish: "Judge-ing" These Laodicean's
:unsure:

I ask once again, Michael,
Do you "Eat" Lye and "Drink" of the Drain-O made from such,
or was / is the Holy Soap just for cleansing the outside,
 
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