Reality is like imagining a man on mars then figuring out how to get one there. Once he is there reality sets in, until then faith is the motivator. Faith will produce anything you are determined to produce. Same way with Christ. You cant suppose yourself to be in a certain condition that you never have been in on Mars or in Christ. If you actually applied how to, then reality of stepping into it becomes reality. Until then your argument is only from speculation with no substance to sustain itno one is jerking anyone around. It's the same problem, believers believe but can't demonstrate that their beliefs have any relationship to reality. I'm not sure why believers are unwilling to acknowledge or address this fact. Instead they whine that atheists jerk them around and won't accept anything as evidence. If the believe understood anything about evidence, they'd understand. Instead they curl up in their beliefs oblivious to the nonsensical nature of their position.
If you could make your case, you would - demonstrate that your God exists outside of your imagination.
But you can't, can you.
A favorite is why dont you search out for yourself and receive from the author of it that He may show you the truth about Him? Until you do, your argument holds no water at all and all you will do is comment about it from ignorance.Interesting that they need twenty when one would do -if any of them were true.
Pick your favorite -the one you think makes the strongest case and let's discuss.
The bible is only a tutorial to lead you to the Only One who can open His truth in you. The bible is an instruction manual for how to achieve that finished product. Most skip the manual and try and assemble on their own and wind up with a few spare parts they cant fit in.Regardless, your reasoning is circular. Address the point.
It is incumbent upon the believer to establish the Bible as a reliable source of truth. Assuming or mere assertion is insufficient. Try holding yourself to the same standards you hold those with whom you disagree.
The thing about Christ is it isnt a belief at all, it is the manifestation of Love in man. Christ in you is you anointed of God WHo is a SPirit and that SPirit is Love and man is the temple of. So simple a God yet so complicated the religious folk make Him.Yes. Christianity doesn't get a pass, all claims of fact or truth are subject to the same standards. Do you think your beliefs warrant special treatment? If so why?
Correct it is up to the individuals to seek Him out for truths themselves. Most dont have the tenacity even to get started. Their mind capacity is locked in a trench they cant want to escaspe from in fear. They are like in a trench prepairinig munitions for war and killed in the process.It is not the fault of logic or atheists that Christians cannot sufficiently support their beliefs and claims with proper, independently verifiable evidence.
It isnt up to the believer to make a case, Having Gods PSirit is not a beliefe, it is the disposition of the beholder of. And it is up the recepient of Gods SPirit to live it by example so that you may see.Until such time the believer makes their case. The believer's failure to make their case is not the atheist's problem and in fact is the point. Stop whining about it and either accept it or make your case.
Sadly most claiming to be Christain hasnt a clue what it is to have from God that what Jesus and others we read of had from Him. All they have is rules and regulation they have conjured from ignorance and put into law to regulate their beliefs. Denominations are notorious for this very thing. that is why non of these can agree on anything about the gods they regulate to be in their image.
One can believe anything about a god, but few who seek out the One Jesus tried to lead people to that he called Father.