Daniel.
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So, I've seen that people often misunderstand the idea of being "born again" or "children of God" as if it were something irreversible or immutable ("You can't become unborn, silly--similarly, you can't become 'not God's child'."); clearly, these people just need a little information to help them out of this misunderstanding on account of which they are spreading confusion in the Christian community.
Deuteronomy 31
1“You are the sons of the Lord your God.
Deuteronomy 32
5They have dealt corruptly with him;
they are no longer his children because they are blemished...
So, Jews are called God's children; later it's prophesied they will no longer be God's children.
Hosea 1
9And the Lord said, “Call his name Not My People, for you are not my people, and I am not your God.”
10Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be like the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And in the place where it was said to them, “You are not my people,” it shall be said to them, “Children of the living God.”
Deuteronomy 32's prophecy comes true: they're no longer God's children, and must become God's children in the future.
Romans 9
24even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25As indeed he says in Hosea,
“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’
and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’”
26“And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
Paul says Hosea refers to Jews--ie, Jews, indeed, must become God's children (proving they'd been rejected as such).
Before you say "But they weren't truly saved--what happened to them was just a shadow of things to come!" : yes, it was/is a shadow of things to come. That actually proves my point: as Paul says, "Old Testament" Scripture teaches us about how Christianity works.
2 Timothy 3
15and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
And an explicit example...
1 Corinthians 9
8Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same? 9For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned? 10Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. 11If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? 12If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more?
Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. 13Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings? 14In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
And again what ever happened to them happened as an example for us.
1 Corinthians 10
11Now these things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.
Deuteronomy 31
1“You are the sons of the Lord your God.
Deuteronomy 32
5They have dealt corruptly with him;
they are no longer his children because they are blemished...
So, Jews are called God's children; later it's prophesied they will no longer be God's children.
Hosea 1
9And the Lord said, “Call his name Not My People, for you are not my people, and I am not your God.”
10Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be like the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And in the place where it was said to them, “You are not my people,” it shall be said to them, “Children of the living God.”
Deuteronomy 32's prophecy comes true: they're no longer God's children, and must become God's children in the future.
Romans 9
24even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles? 25As indeed he says in Hosea,
“Those who were not my people I will call ‘my people,’
and her who was not beloved I will call ‘beloved.’”
26“And in the very place where it was said to them, ‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’”
Paul says Hosea refers to Jews--ie, Jews, indeed, must become God's children (proving they'd been rejected as such).
Before you say "But they weren't truly saved--what happened to them was just a shadow of things to come!" : yes, it was/is a shadow of things to come. That actually proves my point: as Paul says, "Old Testament" Scripture teaches us about how Christianity works.
2 Timothy 3
15and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
And an explicit example...
1 Corinthians 9
8Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same? 9For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned? 10Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop. 11If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you? 12If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more?
Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ. 13Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings? 14In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
And again what ever happened to them happened as an example for us.
1 Corinthians 10
11Now these things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come.
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