The Egyptian pantheon notwithstanding, this is not what Elohim was saying. I'm sure you know that. Moses was the representative of Elohim YHWH Himself, and Aaron was his messenger/word. Elohenu has no respect for the false gods, and makes that clear...calls them gods who are no gods.Ok, before I give my opinion on the verses below, let me go a little further back and provide some information that may not be readily in people's minds. When we look at Exodus 7:1, we see the following:
YHWH made Moses God/Gods to Pharaoh, and Moses would be the person that would be the face for the plagues that were to be brought upon Egypt. Egyptians were used to the idea that gods incarnated in the form of humans, and Pharaoh was just that in their minds. In fact their gods had human forms with heads of other animals. The Egyptian pantheon of gods included gods for death, sun, storms, fertility, etc.
One represented the One El Elyon Elohenu. One brought judgment on the false gods. Moses was not seen by the Israelites as Elohim...ever.Moses was seen as God/Gods in that he brought about the plagues on Egypt. One person was responsible for the equivalent action of all of Egypt's gods.
This is what you came up with? And they made a calf? To replace Moses?Moses was the intermediary for God who acted as all of the gods of Egypt in power and might. The people were asking for a substitute for Moses to go before them.
How does that make sense? Moses did not go before them. The fire by night and the smoke by day went before them. They did not ask Aaron to make a "Moses" to go before them..."Moses is taking a long time. We don't know how much longer he'll be there...Make us Elohim." Not, "Make us Moses." The smoke and the cloud were on the top of the mountain. That was the problem.
Then the people worshiped Moses...Not God. And Moses in the shape of cattle.The singular calf was representative of Moses, who encompassed all the might of the gods under one object, person. There wasn't a need to make multiple calves when one can do the job.
And you agree with my point despite your strange contention: It is always mistranslated "gods". They wanted Aaron to make a statue of YHWH Elohim.
Of course it was wrong...and the translation is error on every count. They wanted YHWH on their terms, and according to their invention, just as you do today. It's never been right.Yes, this was totally wrong. Worshipping a masecah, god with a covering, as in a vail of flesh, would be idolatrous, Exodus 34:17.
YHWH Elohenu (NMP)...paradox.There's no paradox. There's only one YHWH alone.
You're inventing. You have to retreat to your invention to protect your own limitations...Actually, the idolatry was thinking that God could incarnate in human or any other physical form for that matter. That originated with the Egyptians that their Pharaoh's were human gods and that idea carried forward in this event with the people even though God had already revealed that He had no form, Deut 4:9,12,15,35.
I read, for example, Genesis 18:16When the men got up to leave, they looked out over Sodom, and Abraham walked along with them to see them off. I see "men". What do you see? There were three of them...They sat and ate with Abraham. Sarai made them a meal. We're talking hours of elapsed time.
And then this:
17And the LORD said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do? 18Abraham will surely become a great and powerful nation, and through him all the nations of the earth will be blessed. 19For I have chosen him, so that he will command his children and his household after him to keep the way of the LORD by doing what is right and just, in order that the LORD may bring upon Abraham what He has promised.”
Who is talking, according to the scripture? Who do you say is talking? Is He talking? Did He just eat lunch?
20Then the LORD said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great. Because their sin is so grievous, 21I will go down to see if their actions fully justify the outcry that has reached Me. If not, I will find out.”Who is talking? What form has He taken? How is He talking? Why three? Why are they a singular YHWH doing the talking?
22And the two men turned away and went toward Sodom, but Abraham remained standing before the LORD.Who left? Who does the scripture say remained? Who do you say remained?
23Abraham stepped forward and said, “Will You really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? To whom is Abram talking? Did I ever call Him three Gods? Ever? I understand what I'm reading, and I know YHWH Elohenu appeared to Abram...and I know how the appearance is described. At no point do I see three "gods". I see YHWH Elohenu, echad. Simple as that. You're stuck with invention because you cannot accept that Elohim is NMP
Does your translation say "Make us gods?" or "Make God for us?"I generally use Artscroll, but even then I rely more on the Hebrew and my Etymological Hirsch Dictionary for study purposes.
See above. It's not three Gods...It's just His appearance...as three. He is One. The fact that HE appears as three is just mystery...not limitation. You cannot deny the three...and you cannot deny bodily form...and I have yet to read a decent explanation...though I understand body has a realm soul has a realm and spirit has a realm. Sometimes realms meet...https://forums.carm.org/threads/thief-on-the-cross-forgiven-how.4749/post-427999, You make reference to God as three persons with the encounter of Abraham in Gen 18. How am I to understand this? They have three bodies and you've said your god only has one body.