Thinking Of Converting To Catholicism?

Dant01

Member
.
FAQ: I'm considering joining the Catholic Church. Would it be a mistake?

A: I strongly advise conscientious inquirers to consult outside, independent sources
of information about the Catholic religion. In spiritual matters pertaining to heaven
and hell; one cannot be too cautious considering the potentially grave
consequences for choosing unwisely.


FAQ: What's wrong with attending the Church's RCIA classes?

A: The Roman Church's conduct, past and present, has adequately demonstrated
that it cannot be trusted to be honest about itself. Seeking the truth about
Catholicism from the Roman Church is about as reliable as seeking the truth about
North Korea from Kim Jong-Un.

The paragraph below; from the official catechism of the Catholic Church;
acknowledges everyone's rights and freedoms in regard to selecting a religion of
their own personal choice.

CCC 1782 . . . Man has the right to act in conscience, and in freedom, so as
personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his
conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience,
especially in religious matters.

However, be aware that once someone joins the Catholic Church, they will have to
relinquish those rights. They will be placed under the jurisdiction of Rome, and be
expected to fully comply with everything in the Catechism and in the Code Of
Canon Law, plus all of Rome's traditions, and every Bull, every Holy Day of
Obligation, every Encyclical plus all of the Sermon On The Mount and everything
taught in the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, Jude, and John; along with every ruling
of Rome's Church Councils including Nicaea 1 & 2, Constantinople 1 & 2 & 3,
Ephesus, Chalcedon, Lateran 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5, Lyons 1 & 2, Vienne, Constance,
Florence, Trent, and Vatican 1 & 2.

In addition, they will not be permitted to either interpret, or apply, the Holy Bible's
teachings sans hierarchy oversight.

CCC 85 . .The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether
in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living
teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the
name of Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been
entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of
Rome.

Rome asserts that not only CCC 85, but also the passage below grants them the
final say in all matters pertaining to every Catholic's faith and practices.

Matt 16:19 . .And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Also; be advised that Catholicism isn't a democracy; it's a theocracy; viz: dissidents
merit punishment; even to the extent of excommunication.

Matt 18:17 . . If he refuses to listen even to the Church, treat him as you would a
pagan or one who collaborates with the enemy.

Titus 3:10-11 . . After a first and second warning, break off contact with a
heretic, realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self
condemned.


FYI: Heresy and Apostasy are not the same thing. Apostates defect, i.e. they get
out; while heretics remain to instigate reforms and foment dissatisfaction with the
Church's leadership.

If conscientious inquirers are unsure that they can fully subordinate themselves to
hierarchy control, and/or comply with all that Rome demands, and all that Rome
teaches and stands for; then they might want to consider looking for a version of
Christianity that's a bit more accommodating.
_
 

RickyJ

New member
.
FAQ: I'm considering joining the Catholic Church. Would it be a mistake?

A: I strongly advise conscientious inquirers to consult outside, independent sources
of information about the Catholic religion. In spiritual matters pertaining to heaven
and hell; one cannot be too cautious considering the potentially grave
consequences for choosing unwisely.


FAQ: What's wrong with attending the Church's RCIA classes?

A: The Roman Church's conduct, past and present, has adequately demonstrated
that it cannot be trusted to be honest about itself. Seeking the truth about
Catholicism from the Roman Church is about as reliable as seeking the truth about
North Korea from Kim Jong-Un.

The paragraph below; from the official catechism of the Catholic Church;
acknowledges everyone's rights and freedoms in regard to selecting a religion of
their own personal choice.

CCC 1782 . . . Man has the right to act in conscience, and in freedom, so as
personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his
conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience,
especially in religious matters.

However, be aware that once someone joins the Catholic Church, they will have to
relinquish those rights. They will be placed under the jurisdiction of Rome, and be
expected to fully comply with everything in the Catechism and in the Code Of
Canon Law, plus all of Rome's traditions, and every Bull, every Holy Day of
Obligation, every Encyclical plus all of the Sermon On The Mount and everything
taught in the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, Jude, and John; along with every ruling
of Rome's Church Councils including Nicaea 1 & 2, Constantinople 1 & 2 & 3,
Ephesus, Chalcedon, Lateran 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5, Lyons 1 & 2, Vienne, Constance,
Florence, Trent, and Vatican 1 & 2.

In addition, they will not be permitted to either interpret, or apply, the Holy Bible's
teachings sans hierarchy oversight.

CCC 85 . .The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether
in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living
teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the
name of Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been
entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of
Rome.

Rome asserts that not only CCC 85, but also the passage below grants them the
final say in all matters pertaining to every Catholic's faith and practices.

Matt 16:19 . .And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Also; be advised that Catholicism isn't a democracy; it's a theocracy; viz: dissidents
merit punishment; even to the extent of excommunication.

Matt 18:17 . . If he refuses to listen even to the Church, treat him as you would a
pagan or one who collaborates with the enemy.

Titus 3:10-11 . . After a first and second warning, break off contact with a
heretic, realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self
condemned.


FYI: Heresy and Apostasy are not the same thing. Apostates defect, i.e. they get
out; while heretics remain to instigate reforms and foment dissatisfaction with the
Church's leadership.

If conscientious inquirers are unsure that they can fully subordinate themselves to
hierarchy control, and/or comply with all that Rome demands, and all that Rome
teaches and stands for; then they might want to consider looking for a version of
Christianity that's a bit more accommodating.
_

Really?
Strangely, nobody cares in a Catholic Church about most of these things.
You are free to join, you are just as free to leave.
Given your doubts and misleading advice, I'd suggest go somewhere else.
 

1Thess521

Well-known member
....

If conscientious inquirers are unsure that they can fully subordinate themselves to
hierarchy control, and/or comply with all that Rome demands, and all that Rome
teaches and stands for; then they might want to consider looking for a version of
Christianity that's a bit more accommodating.
_
"Regardless, Catholics don't think it is necessary to agree with the pope on issues like abortion and birth control in order to be a faithful member of the church. Eighty-three percent of Catholics said they think it's possible to disagree with the pope on issues like these and still be a good Catholic, and 78 percent of American Catholics are more likely to follow their own consciences rather than the pope's teachings (13 percent) on difficult moral issues."
cbsnews.com/news/us-catholics-want-a-younger-more-liberal-pope/

So Dan01
if someone tells you they are a good and faithful member of the Catholic Church; will you know what they believe?
 

Septextura

Active member
Bob: I was thinking of joining this pedophile ring posing as religious organization practicing pagan rituals and trust my eternal soul with it.

Todd: Why that one though? Sounds terrible.

Bob: Well, it's really old, and they say it's the one true church.

Todd: Oh, OK.
 

ding

Member
.
FAQ: I'm considering joining the Catholic Church. Would it be a mistake?

A: I strongly advise conscientious inquirers to consult outside, independent sources
of information about the Catholic religion. In spiritual matters pertaining to heaven
and hell; one cannot be too cautious considering the potentially grave
consequences for choosing unwisely.


FAQ: What's wrong with attending the Church's RCIA classes?

A: The Roman Church's conduct, past and present, has adequately demonstrated
that it cannot be trusted to be honest about itself. Seeking the truth about
Catholicism from the Roman Church is about as reliable as seeking the truth about
North Korea from Kim Jong-Un.

The paragraph below; from the official catechism of the Catholic Church;
acknowledges everyone's rights and freedoms in regard to selecting a religion of
their own personal choice.

CCC 1782 . . . Man has the right to act in conscience, and in freedom, so as
personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his
conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience,
especially in religious matters.

However, be aware that once someone joins the Catholic Church, they will have to
relinquish those rights. They will be placed under the jurisdiction of Rome, and be
expected to fully comply with everything in the Catechism and in the Code Of
Canon Law, plus all of Rome's traditions, and every Bull, every Holy Day of
Obligation, every Encyclical plus all of the Sermon On The Mount and everything
taught in the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, Jude, and John; along with every ruling
of Rome's Church Councils including Nicaea 1 & 2, Constantinople 1 & 2 & 3,
Ephesus, Chalcedon, Lateran 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5, Lyons 1 & 2, Vienne, Constance,
Florence, Trent, and Vatican 1 & 2.

In addition, they will not be permitted to either interpret, or apply, the Holy Bible's
teachings sans hierarchy oversight.

CCC 85 . .The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether
in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living
teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the
name of Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been
entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of
Rome.

Rome asserts that not only CCC 85, but also the passage below grants them the
final say in all matters pertaining to every Catholic's faith and practices.

Matt 16:19 . .And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Also; be advised that Catholicism isn't a democracy; it's a theocracy; viz: dissidents
merit punishment; even to the extent of excommunication.

Matt 18:17 . . If he refuses to listen even to the Church, treat him as you would a
pagan or one who collaborates with the enemy.

Titus 3:10-11 . . After a first and second warning, break off contact with a
heretic, realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self
condemned.


FYI: Heresy and Apostasy are not the same thing. Apostates defect, i.e. they get
out; while heretics remain to instigate reforms and foment dissatisfaction with the
Church's leadership.

If conscientious inquirers are unsure that they can fully subordinate themselves to
hierarchy control, and/or comply with all that Rome demands, and all that Rome
teaches and stands for; then they might want to consider looking for a version of
Christianity that's a bit more accommodating.
_
But Jesus gave authority to the Pope. If you want to know what we are to believe as a Christian then it is the Catholic Church. If you go somewhere else there is no guarantees that you are hearing the truth.
 

1Thess521

Well-known member
But Jesus gave authority to the Pope. If you want to know what we are to believe as a Christian then it is the Catholic Church. If you go somewhere else there is no guarantees that you are hearing the truth.
so can the Pope ever be questioned?
are statements from the Pope guaranteed be the truth?
 
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mica

Well-known member
But Jesus gave authority to the Pope. If you want to know what we are to believe as a Christian then it is the Catholic Church.
Peter was not a 'pope'. Peter was not a Catholic.

define Christian. How does one become a Christian?

If you go somewhere else there is no guarantees that you are hearing the truth.
if you go to the RCC/CC it is a guarantee that you will not hear the truth according to God's word.
 

RayneBeau

Well-known member
.
FAQ: I'm considering joining the Catholic Church. Would it be a mistake?

A: I strongly advise conscientious inquirers to consult outside, independent sources
of information about the Catholic religion. In spiritual matters pertaining to heaven
and hell; one cannot be too cautious considering the potentially grave
consequences for choosing unwisely.


FAQ: What's wrong with attending the Church's RCIA classes?

A: The Roman Church's conduct, past and present, has adequately demonstrated
that it cannot be trusted to be honest about itself. Seeking the truth about
Catholicism from the Roman Church is about as reliable as seeking the truth about
North Korea from Kim Jong-Un.

The paragraph below; from the official catechism of the Catholic Church;
acknowledges everyone's rights and freedoms in regard to selecting a religion of
their own personal choice.

CCC 1782 . . . Man has the right to act in conscience, and in freedom, so as
personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his
conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience,
especially in religious matters.

However, be aware that once someone joins the Catholic Church, they will have to
relinquish those rights. They will be placed under the jurisdiction of Rome, and be
expected to fully comply with everything in the Catechism and in the Code Of
Canon Law, plus all of Rome's traditions, and every Bull, every Holy Day of
Obligation, every Encyclical plus all of the Sermon On The Mount and everything
taught in the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, Jude, and John; along with every ruling
of Rome's Church Councils including Nicaea 1 & 2, Constantinople 1 & 2 & 3,
Ephesus, Chalcedon, Lateran 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5, Lyons 1 & 2, Vienne, Constance,
Florence, Trent, and Vatican 1 & 2.

In addition, they will not be permitted to either interpret, or apply, the Holy Bible's
teachings sans hierarchy oversight.

CCC 85 . .The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether
in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living
teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the
name of Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been
entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of
Rome.

Rome asserts that not only CCC 85, but also the passage below grants them the
final say in all matters pertaining to every Catholic's faith and practices.

Matt 16:19 . .And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Also; be advised that Catholicism isn't a democracy; it's a theocracy; viz: dissidents
merit punishment; even to the extent of excommunication.

Matt 18:17 . . If he refuses to listen even to the Church, treat him as you would a
pagan or one who collaborates with the enemy.

Titus 3:10-11 . . After a first and second warning, break off contact with a
heretic, realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self
condemned.


FYI: Heresy and Apostasy are not the same thing. Apostates defect, i.e. they get
out; while heretics remain to instigate reforms and foment dissatisfaction with the
Church's leadership.

If conscientious inquirers are unsure that they can fully subordinate themselves to
hierarchy control, and/or comply with all that Rome demands, and all that Rome
teaches and stands for; then they might want to consider looking for a version of
Christianity that's a bit more accommodating.
_
Can you stomach the Roman Catholic Church's teaching that by the RCC priest's incantation that the bread and wine is transformed into the real body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ, the Son of God?
Gone are the days when Roman Catholics were instructed to beat their breast and bow their heads before the elevation of the Host by a Roman Catholic priest with his pedophilic digits. Gone are the days when Roman Catholics were absolutely mortified at the mere thought of touching the communion wafer or God forbid - chewing it! Gone are the days when Roman Catholics confessed their sins, obediently did the priest's prescribed penance, and refrained from food and drink after the stroke of midnight in order to become a worthy recipient of the tiny bread waferette at Mass.
 

Bonnie

Well-known member
But Jesus gave authority to the Pope. If you want to know what we are to believe as a Christian then it is the Catholic Church. If you go somewhere else there is no guarantees that you are hearing the truth.
Jesus gave authority to ALL The apostles, not just Peter. And, by extension, all church leaders in the TRUE church.
 

nan

Well-known member
they are! yes, catholics would have to dig thru a lot of the ccc to give their catholic answer. or wait until their local priest has time to respond to their phone call / email. maybe they'll get the answer in the confessional this afternoon.
How sad. If only they would just read the scriptures they would find the answer to your question, mica.
 

mica

Well-known member
Can you stomach the Roman Catholic Church's teaching that by the RCC priest's incantation that the bread and wine is transformed into the real body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ, the Son of God?
Gone are the days when Roman Catholics were instructed to beat their breast and bow their heads before the elevation of the Host by a Roman Catholic priest with his pedophilic digits. Gone are the days when Roman Catholics were absolutely mortified at the mere thought of touching the communion wafer or God forbid - chewing it! Gone are the days when Roman Catholics confessed their sins, obediently did the priest's prescribed penance, and refrained from food and drink after the stroke of midnight in order to become a worthy recipient of the tiny bread waferette at Mass.
what a blast from the past! ugh! I'd forgotten about beating the breast and bowing of the head at that time. Did those at the Last Supper do that?

for sure we were not allowed to touch it or chew it. I think if one choked on it the nuns would have let us die rather than touch it (remove it). and at every school day at Mass the nuns would watch to see if anyone chewed... we'd get a rap on the head and then we'd get chewed out after the Mass! any mention of not chewing the bread at the Last Supper?

I remember that (fasting). one minute after midnight and I was doomed to be waferless the next day. Did those at the Last Supper fast prior to the bread? was bread the only thing served at that meal?

catholicism is so unbiblical.
 

RayneBeau

Well-known member
what a blast from the past! ugh! I'd forgotten about beating the breast and bowing of the head at that time. Did those at the Last Supper do that?

for sure we were not allowed to touch it or chew it. I think if one choked on it the nuns would have let us die rather than touch it (remove it). and at every school day at Mass the nuns would watch to see if anyone chewed... we'd get a rap on the head and then we'd get chewed out after the Mass! any mention of not chewing the bread at the Last Supper?

I remember that (fasting). one minute after midnight and I was doomed to be waferless the next day. Did those at the Last Supper fast prior to the bread? was bread the only thing served at that meal?

catholicism is so unbiblical.
LOL! Love your commentaries- they're SO TRUE!
And why did the nuns always strictly reprimand us sternly admonishing us, saying: "don't chew baby Jesus"! Was Jesus an infant when He died on the cross? - or at the Last Supper? Or did Jesus use "baby" bread at the Last Supper? :oops:
Not only is Roman Catholicism unbiblical, it absolutely defies 'common sense' at so many levels!
 

RayneBeau

Well-known member
.
FAQ: I'm considering joining the Catholic Church. Would it be a mistake?

A: I strongly advise conscientious inquirers to consult outside, independent sources
of information about the Catholic religion. In spiritual matters pertaining to heaven
and hell; one cannot be too cautious considering the potentially grave
consequences for choosing unwisely.


FAQ: What's wrong with attending the Church's RCIA classes?

A: The Roman Church's conduct, past and present, has adequately demonstrated
that it cannot be trusted to be honest about itself. Seeking the truth about
Catholicism from the Roman Church is about as reliable as seeking the truth about
North Korea from Kim Jong-Un.

The paragraph below; from the official catechism of the Catholic Church;
acknowledges everyone's rights and freedoms in regard to selecting a religion of
their own personal choice.

CCC 1782 . . . Man has the right to act in conscience, and in freedom, so as
personally to make moral decisions. He must not be forced to act contrary to his
conscience. Nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience,
especially in religious matters.

However, be aware that once someone joins the Catholic Church, they will have to
relinquish those rights. They will be placed under the jurisdiction of Rome, and be
expected to fully comply with everything in the Catechism and in the Code Of
Canon Law, plus all of Rome's traditions, and every Bull, every Holy Day of
Obligation, every Encyclical plus all of the Sermon On The Mount and everything
taught in the epistles of Paul, Peter, James, Jude, and John; along with every ruling
of Rome's Church Councils including Nicaea 1 & 2, Constantinople 1 & 2 & 3,
Ephesus, Chalcedon, Lateran 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 & 5, Lyons 1 & 2, Vienne, Constance,
Florence, Trent, and Vatican 1 & 2.

In addition, they will not be permitted to either interpret, or apply, the Holy Bible's
teachings sans hierarchy oversight.

CCC 85 . .The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether
in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living
teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the
name of Jesus Christ." This means that the task of interpretation has been
entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of
Rome.

Rome asserts that not only CCC 85, but also the passage below grants them the
final say in all matters pertaining to every Catholic's faith and practices.

Matt 16:19 . .And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Also; be advised that Catholicism isn't a democracy; it's a theocracy; viz: dissidents
merit punishment; even to the extent of excommunication.

Matt 18:17 . . If he refuses to listen even to the Church, treat him as you would a
pagan or one who collaborates with the enemy.

Titus 3:10-11 . . After a first and second warning, break off contact with a
heretic, realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self
condemned.


FYI: Heresy and Apostasy are not the same thing. Apostates defect, i.e. they get
out; while heretics remain to instigate reforms and foment dissatisfaction with the
Church's leadership.

If conscientious inquirers are unsure that they can fully subordinate themselves to
hierarchy control, and/or comply with all that Rome demands, and all that Rome
teaches and stands for; then they might want to consider looking for a version of
Christianity that's a bit more accommodating.
_
DanO - Do you know that as a Roman Catholic you would be obliged to the Roman Catholic Church, to confess your sins to a Roman Catholic priest in order to obtain his pronouncement of absolution for the sins you must confess to him?
 

Nondenom40

Active member
When the Pope speaks excathedra then we can be guaranteed that it is the truth, per Jesus.
You mean like marys ic which is nowhere found in the n.t.? Jesus is said to be sinless multiple times. Wheres the clear cut verse about mary? Sorry but your popes have NEVER spit out one iota of 'truth' ex cathedra. Your entire church is built on lies because not one thing about it is in the bible.
 
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