This is why we are here............

leonard03782

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Can we even help these foolish people?

Romans 1:

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
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leonard03782

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I have been tempted to do this more than once, yet I still keep coming back.

Matt 10:
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.


Be forewarned, there is coming a day very soon in which my brothers and sisters in Christ and I will do exactly this when the LORD comes to take us to where HE is. You will suffer the consequences of your actions and false belief system.

John 14:
3 “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
 

dingoling.

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James 5:
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
The Catholic Church has it right. The nCCs are wrong.
 

dingoling.

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Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Where did God say, "two sinless mediators and advocates'?
The same place that God said that the writings of the NT are his inspired word - the Catholic church.
 

dingoling.

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Paul said it:
2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Paul didn't say these writings are the inspired word of God - the Catholic church did:

 

pilgrim

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James 5:
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
So you need to hide a multitude of sins? How do you do that exactly?
 

SPOKENWORD

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Can we even help these foolish people?

Romans 1:

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
No,but God can.
 

balshan

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The same place that God said that the writings of the NT are his inspired word - the Catholic church.
In your dreams that scripture does not call the writings of the NT inspired:

Peter definitely declares Paul's writings scripture and those that aren't have been lost.

2 Tim 3:16 is clear about all scripture:

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

Paul is clear about OT writings, Rom 15:4:

For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

Joshua 1:8

This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Paul speaks of the gospel and that is NT writings:

Roms 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

So now we have the OT writings declared scripture in scripture, Paul is declared scripture by Peter and Paul declares the gsopel the power of God. That pretty much covers the bulk of scripture and I know I have missed other revelant verses.


A lot of scholars accept Paul quoted Luke's writings

Here is why this appears to be the case. This is an excerpt from Paul’s first letter to Timothy (1 Timothy 5:17–18):

Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honour, especially those who labour in preaching and teaching; for the scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and, “The labourer deserves to be paid.”

Paul claims to be quoting from scripture. But which parts of scripture is he quoting from? The first one is easy. “You shall not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain” comes from the Torah, in Deuteronomy 25:4. What about the second quote, “the labourer deserves to be paid?” or more literally, “the worker deserves his wages?” (the NRSV from which I quoted often alters the sentence to remove reference to gender). Is it anywhere in the Hebrew Scripture? What about the Septuagint? Nope, nowhere. Was there any Jewish writing at the time that contained this saying and which might have been regarded as scripture? No. So what was he quoting from when he claimed that this is something contained in scripture?

From right reason.com and similiar is found in Taylor Marshall's writings.


There is strong evidence that the apostles were well aware of each others' writings and quoted them as scripture. The fact that RCs cannot see this is revealing and shows the poor teachings of their institution.

So we have Peter calling Paul's writings scripture and Paul quoting Luke for a start.

2 Peter 3:15+

15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Paul has written 13 or 14 of the 27 NT books. Luke wrote 2 of them. Then I assume RCs are happy to declare Peter's books scripture. That brings the total number to at least 17 to 18 of the NT books. Then there is the writings of Matthew, Mark, John, James and Jude. I am happy to accept them as scripture, I mean John, Matt walked with Jesus.
 
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