This week is the worst for the Mormon Faith because of elections

The Prophet

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Magdalena

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They can claim that they believe communism is evil, but at various times in their early history, they practiced a form of it, with the United Order and the Law of Consecration. They said it wasn’t the same as communism because their people still had freedom to choose. But a lot of the time it was mandated to give everything they owned to the church. It created a lot of conflict among members and between leaders. Many mormons taught, and some still believe that it will be practiced in the celestial kingdom.
 

Aaron32

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They can claim that they believe communism is evil, but at various times in their early history, they practiced a form of it, with the United Order and the Law of Consecration. They said it wasn’t the same as communism because their people still had freedom to choose. But a lot of the time it was mandated to give everything they owned to the church. It created a lot of conflict among members and between leaders. Many mormons taught, and some still believe that it will be practiced in the celestial kingdom.
All you say is true.
The same was true of the early church:

Acts 4:32 “32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.”
 

Theo1689

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All you say is true.
The same was true of the early church:

Acts 4:32 “32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.”
That wasn't "mandated", that was VOLUNTARY.

And there was still a requirement to work:

2Th. 3:10 For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
 

Magdalena

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All you say is true.
The same was true of the early church:

Acts 4:32 “32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.”
Choosing to share things with each other is not the same as having everything you own taken away, and being told what you can have and what you can’t.
 

Theo1689

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What about Ananias and Sapphira? (Acts 5)

What about them?
Their sin was not about not giving enough (they could have kept as much as they wanted), it was simply about lying about it.

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

You really should read your proof-texts before you presume to cite them.
Just sayin'.
 

Bonnie

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All you say is true.
The same was true of the early church:

Acts 4:32 “32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.”
Those in the early church did this VOLUNTARILY. No one commanded them to do this. As Peter told Ananias:

Acts 5:

. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the proceeds of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control?
 

Theo1689

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Ok...So why was Ananias punished?

LYING.

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? 4 While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not at your disposal? Why is it that you have contrived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to man but ato God.”
 

Magdalena

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Here we have communism trying to overtake America, and Mitt Romney supports it...
 

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Magdalena

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I’m not a fan of Romney.
Guilt by association is a fallacy.

I think Romney thought of himself as the “one mighty and strong” that Joseph Smith talked about who would take over and divide up the just desserts for mormons. Or the one who would swoop in and save the Constitution when it’s “hanging by a thread.”

A lot of mormons voted for him. But more people were worried that he would take his mormon beliefs and covenants more seriously than he did the good of America. I think we’re seeing that they were right. Except that he doesn’t seem to be very loyal to anyone really.

Still, a lot of mormons are voting democrat, in spite of issues like abortion and socialism and communism that are strong in that party. So where does that put them in regards to Mormon doctrine and Christianity?
 

Aaron32

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Still, a lot of mormons are voting democrat, in spite of issues like abortion and socialism and communism that are strong in that party. So where does that put them in regards to Mormon doctrine and Christianity?
I can only speculate. I think both parties have become so extreme in certain areas, that some rationalize their choice.
Others have been completely duped (mostly youth) and buy Into MSM narrative.
At the end of the day, I don’t think either party does a good job representing us.
 

Magdalena

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I can only speculate. I think both parties have become so extreme in certain areas, that some rationalize their choice.
Others have been completely duped (mostly youth) and buy Into MSM narrative.
At the end of the day, I don’t think either party does a good job representing us.
You didn’t answer my question about mormons.
 

CrowCross

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I can only speculate. I think both parties have become so extreme in certain areas, that some rationalize their choice.
Others have been completely duped (mostly youth) and buy Into MSM narrative.
At the end of the day, I don’t think either party does a good job representing us.
It's easy to be duped into a narrative. Look at you.
 
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