To Those Who Say Jesus Was God.

civic

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The better book is that what was quoted of Jesus himself to walk as he did in the Father yourself.
You don't listen nor understand the book called the bible otherwise you would see the GREAT GULF between you and God(JESUS) and yourself but you think that you are His equal which is BLASPMEMY.

hope this helps !!!
 

Gary Mac

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Great book
The trinity doctrine is designed to lead you away from that what Jesus said you would be in the Father if you had from Him that what Jesus had from Him yourself to be in His same image and same mind the mind of Christ. The trinity doctrine is antichrist where there is no way that you can be that person of Christ that God demands of you.
 

ferengi

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The trinity doctrine is designed to lead you away from that what Jesus said you would be in the Father if you had from Him that what Jesus had from Him yourself to be in His same image and same mind the mind of Christ. The trinity doctrine is antichrist where there is no way that you can be that person of Christ that God demands of you.
Your evidence is?
 

rod.ney

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The trinity doctrine is designed to lead you away from that what Jesus said you would be in the Father if you had from Him that what Jesus had from Him yourself to be in His same image and same mind the mind of Christ. The trinity doctrine is antichrist where there is no way that you can be that person of Christ that God demands of you.
Thus Gary calls God the Father an AntiChrist for telling us in Heb.1:8 that His Only begotten ( John 1:18 ) Son ( Jesus Christ ) is " Oh God "! Yes indeed the One GOD of the scriptures is a TRINITY consisting of THREE Divine Persons ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) ! Case closed Gary!
 

rod.ney

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That is speaking of God not Jesus.

And all who are of God answer that Jesus is pour brother for we have the same Father who is God. Jesus said he never spoke of himself but of his Father who sent him, you just dont believe Jesus is all, you believe the creed you are chained to instead. You cannot copy and past where Jesus said he was God and not Gods son. It isnt there.
God the Father was never dead like Jesus was for 3 days in April ( Nissan ) of 33 AD! So yes indeed that posted scripture ( Rev.1:17 ) is talking about God the Son ( Jesus Christ ) Gary! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

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Thus Gary calls God the Father an AntiChrist for telling us in Heb.1:8 that His Only begotten ( John 1:18 ) Son ( Jesus Christ ) is " Oh God "! Yes indeed the One GOD of the scriptures is a TRINITY consisting of THREE Divine Persons ( FSHS - Matt.28:19 ) ! Case closed Gary!
Oh no Gary calls God His Father just as Jesus called Him his Father. And all are begotten of God who has obeyed and received Him as our own disposition. He is only antichrist to you who do not intened to receive from Him that what Jesus received from Him.

If you will do a word search for begotten and look up the definition if, you will see that all are begotten of God who actually has received Him as our own disposition. Begotten simply means a duplicate of the original or an extension from the original. Smiting that is obvious that is unfamiliar to your understanding of it.

The natural man never receives the things of Gods Spirit for as with you they are antichrist as you say He is.

It is foolishness for you to think that God came to Jesus by His Spirit and opend all of His heaven to that man and is foolishness for you to think He will do the same in you because your natural man has made substitution for that what you dont understand of Him.

As far as a trinity God is my Father, He is my father and He is a Spirit of Love and I am His son by His same Spirit, these three are one and you cannot separate me from His hand no matter how hard you try with the doctrines of man that is not of God at all.
 

rod.ney

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What if God really did send Jesus to show you the way to Him and have from Him that what He gave Jesus? The One Jesus prayed to and obeyed and called Him Father of His Spirit? Would that make a difference in your beliefs if you actually followed Jesus to the same place in God that he was in God?
Yes -

To Those Who Say Jesus Was God​

-John 1:1 POINT BLANK says the WORD " Was God " and the Word was with God ( the Father & Holy Spirit )! The Word ( God in John 1:1 ) became FLESH ( as Jesus Christ ) in John 1:14! Conclusion Gary - Precarnate Jesus Christ was in FACT God the Word with God the Father & Holy Spirit in John 1:1! So yes indeed Jesus was God with us ( Matt.1:23 ) for some 30+ years in the First century AD! Case closed!

 

Gary Mac

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Your evidence is?
Either you are perfect as He is and has from Him that what Jesus had from Him to be identified with Him as Jesus was identified with him or you are not. The evidence is in what you say of Him and yourself to be like Him or not be as Jesus was like Him.
 

ferengi

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Either you are perfect as He is and has from Him that what Jesus had from Him to be identified with Him as Jesus was identified with him or you are not. The evidence is in what you say of Him and yourself to be like Him or not be as Jesus was like Him.
Thats not evidence - its unsupported assertions
 

Gary Mac

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Yes -

To Those Who Say Jesus Was God​

-John 1:1 POINT BLANK says the WORD " Was God " and the Word was with God ( the Father & Holy Spirit )! The Word ( God in John 1:1 ) became FLESH ( as Jesus Christ ) in John 1:14! Conclusion Gary - Precarnate Jesus Christ was in FACT God the Word with God the Father & Holy Spirit in John 1:1! So yes indeed Jesus was God with us ( Matt.1:23 ) for some 30+ years in the First century AD! Case closed!

yes John 1 the word of God is from the beginning and no one escapes this fact if they are to be of God and every mans salvation hinges on the word of God be your own own words and no one come to the Father least you have His word as your own disposition.
 

rod.ney

Active member
Oh no Gary calls God His Father just as Jesus called Him his Father. And all are begotten of God who has obeyed and received Him as our own disposition. He is only antichrist to you who do not intened to receive from Him that what Jesus received from Him.

If you will do a word search for begotten and look up the definition if, you will see that all are begotten of God who actually has received Him as our own disposition. Begotten simply means a duplicate of the original or an extension from the original. Smiting that is obvious that is unfamiliar to your understanding of it.

The natural man never receives the things of Gods Spirit for as with you they are antichrist as you say He is.

It is foolishness for you to think that God came to Jesus by His Spirit and opend all of His heaven to that man and is foolishness for you to think He will do the same in you because your natural man has made substitution for that what you dont understand of Him.

As far as a trinity God is my Father, He is my father and He is a Spirit of Love and I am His son by His same Spirit, these three are one and you cannot separate me from His hand no matter how hard you try with the doctrines of man that is not of God at all.
FYI Gary - Read the scriptures ( God's Inspired say so and Not unbiblical word searches ), such as John 1:18, that does in FACT say Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son! That is why God the Father only calls THAT SON ( Jesus Christ and Not born again sons ) " Oh God "! Jesus is the ONLY Son that is Not adopted Gary! All born again sons are adopted and are NOT God ( Oh God ) like Jesus Christ is! All things were created Through and By THAT Son ( God the Son ) as per John 1:3 & Col.1:8! All Creation was not done Through & By born again ( adopted ) sons like you or me, Gary! Case closed!
 

Gary Mac

Well-known member
Yes -

To Those Who Say Jesus Was God​

-John 1:1 POINT BLANK says the WORD " Was God " and the Word was with God ( the Father & Holy Spirit )! The Word ( God in John 1:1 ) became FLESH ( as Jesus Christ ) in John 1:14! Conclusion Gary - Precarnate Jesus Christ was in FACT God the Word with God the Father & Holy Spirit in John 1:1! So yes indeed Jesus was God with us ( Matt.1:23 ) for some 30+ years in the First century AD! Case closed!

What if God really did send Jesus to show you the way to Him?
 

Gary Mac

Well-known member
FYI Gary - Read the scriptures ( God's Inspired say so and Not unbiblical word searches ), such as John 1:18, that does in FACT say Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son! That is why God the Father only calls THAT SON ( Jesus Christ and Not born again sons ) " Oh God "! Jesus is the ONLY Son that is Not adopted Gary! All born again sons are adopted and are NOT God ( Oh God ) like Jesus Christ is! All things were created Through and By THAT Son ( God the Son ) as per John 1:3 & Col.1:8! All Creation was not done Through & By born again sons like you or me, Gary! Case closed!
Better yet apply the scriptures to yourself and walk as He walks in His same SPirit.
 
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