TP claims - Atheism isn't a belief, Stiggy

Authentic Nouveau

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Probably not - but, there is science to support a critique of particular religious claims - young earth creationism, for example - and plenty of evidence to support common descent, which flies in the face of creationism in general.

However, my own objections to theism in general are metaphysical, not scientific. Theism is metaphysically incoherent - theists posit God's agency to explain aspects of reality that must be assumed in order to posit God's agency.
You have any political talking points that we haven't heard before?

Jesus never entered any theism mumbo jumbo conversation like you people do.

God gives wisdom which people with your incoherency can't obtain.
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
Potassium Argon Dating



It's a logical fork. If there was always something, then the universe is eternal and there's no role for God. If the universe came from nothing, then there's also no role for God.
More speculationism

And it is glaring fact that the age of the universe doesn't overcome the complexity of abiogenesis.



God who created Adam and Eve watches your klan and watches how important it is to your klan to lie about a human/primate common ancestor. Nobody has seen "it"



Do you know why your juvenile allegories lack evidence? Soft tissue biopsies?

Your sources lie.

The pattern that we were told to find for the last 120 years does not exist," declared Niles Eldridge, a paleontologist from the American Museum of Natural History in New York.
If you want to go to college, you will need to learn how to answer yes or no questions.
Did Neiztsche lie? yes or no
 

ferengi

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The options are: either something came from nothing, or there was always something.
Your evidence is? Why isn't the 3rd option god created everything?

Given this fork, what is there for God to cause?
Shifting the burden - loaded question fallacy.
Avoiding the questions -
Prove something came from nothing without a cause.
So which one is true?
Prove god is not the cause.
 

ferengi

Well-known member
Is God something, or is God nothing?
Your evidence is? Why isn't the 3rd option god created everything?
Shifting the burden -
Avoiding the questions -
Prove something came from nothing without a cause.
So which one is true?
Prove god is not the cause.
 

Lighthearted Atheist

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What about your words which are not in the dictionary? None of the atheeists can explain why they castigate scripture and use so many words not even found in the Bible.

Darwinists not sharp enough to catch creature and creation have the same root.
Miriam-Webster defines atheism as a lack of belief. It no longer includes the hard belief of 'there is no god' since that is not how the word is used.

Definition of atheism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

athe·ism | \ ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm \

  1. a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
  2. a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
  3. archaic : godlessness especially in conduct : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
Some dictionaries still include the possible definition of 'belief there is no god.' However, atheism can clearly mean just a lack of belief. And that is the definition I use and most people here use.

If you argue with the 'there is no god' definition than you are straw manning. Because most people here do not believe that - it is just an easier definition for Christians to attack.
 

ferengi

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Miriam-Webster defines atheism as a lack of belief. It no longer includes the hard belief of 'there is no god' since that is not how the word is used.

Definition of atheism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

athe·ism | \ ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm \

  1. a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
  2. a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
  3. archaic : godlessness especially in conduct : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
Some dictionaries still include the possible definition of 'belief there is no god.' However, atheism can clearly mean just a lack of belief. And that is the definition I use and most people here use.

If you argue with the 'there is no god' definition than you are straw manning. Because most people here do not believe that - it is just an easier definition for Christians to attack.
the doctrine or BELIEF that there is no God. -https://www.dictionary.com/browse/atheism?s=t

How can the atheist not know what atheism is?
 

Torin

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Miriam-Webster defines atheism as a lack of belief. It no longer includes the hard belief of 'there is no god' since that is not how the word is used.

Definition of atheism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

athe·ism | \ ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm \

  1. a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
  2. a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods
  3. archaic : godlessness especially in conduct : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
Some dictionaries still include the possible definition of 'belief there is no god.' However, atheism can clearly mean just a lack of belief. And that is the definition I use and most people here use.

If you argue with the 'there is no god' definition than you are straw manning. Because most people here do not believe that - it is just an easier definition for Christians to attack.
I'm not sure why you say that the Merriam-Webster dictionary does not include the "there is no God" definition.

Let's take a closer look at definition 1 in your quote: "a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods."

I would take this to be a disjunction of your "lack of belief" definition with the "there is no God" definition. I don't see how else to read the phrase "a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods," particularly when this is explicitly distinguished from a mere lack of belief.

Could you clear this up?
 

Authentic Nouveau

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The options are: either something came from nothing, or there was always something.

Given this fork, what is there for God to cause?
God caused matter, energy and life. God laughs when puffed up heathen place limits on God.

Your war against science you fight using NO observations and no demonstrations. But you appeal to authority. An insane Nieztsche. lol.
 

Tiburon

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What about your words which are not in the dictionary? None of the atheeists can explain why they castigate scripture and use so many words not even found in the Bible.

Darwinists not sharp enough to catch creature and creation have the same root.
You're one to talk.
 
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