Trinitarians have a pronoun problem

johnny guitar said:
IOW Jesus Christ, The God-Man.
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Yes!

The God-Man. He had to be. In order to fulfill the Atonement he chose to only function as a man. He did so in order to qualify to die as a man in the place of all mankind.

He had to be the perfect sinless man. Necessary the be the sacrificial Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world.


"Who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not robbery to be equal to God,
but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men
having been made, and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself,
having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross."

Philippians 2:6-8 Youngs Literal Translation

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GeneZ said:
Yes!

The God-Man. He had to be. In order to fulfill the Atonement he chose to only function as a man. He did so in order to qualify to die as a man in the place of all mankind.

He had to be the perfect sinless man. Necessary the be the sacrificial Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world.


"Who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not robbery to be equal to God,
but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men
having been made, and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself,
having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross."

Philippians 2:6-8 Youngs Literal Translation

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And there is also a "third person" eh
 
GeneZ said:
Yes!

The God-Man. He had to be. In order to fulfill the Atonement he chose to only function as a man. He did so in order to qualify to die as a man in the place of all mankind.

He had to be the perfect sinless man. Necessary the be the sacrificial Lamb of God to take away the sins of the world.


"Who, being in the form of God, thought [it] not robbery to be equal to God,
but did empty himself, the form of a servant having taken, in the likeness of men
having been made, and in fashion having been found as a man, he humbled himself,
having become obedient unto death -- death even of a cross."

Philippians 2:6-8 Youngs Literal Translation

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He primarily acted and spoke as man, but NOT exclusively.
 
johnny guitar said:
IOW Jesus Crist, The God-Man.
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Even before the Incarnation as the Lord God of Israel He consisted of two natures in union. The Incarnation simply provided a body for His Soul to inhabit as a man!

Here are some OT passages that state the Lord God of Israel was manifested as both Deity and Soul in union.


'You will eat the old supply and clear out the old because of the new. ​
Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not ​
reject you.'I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall ​
be My people." Lev 26:10-12​
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And they began to remove the foreign gods from their midst and to ​
serve Jehovah, so that his soul became impatient because of the trouble ​
of Israel. Jdges 10:16​
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Jehovah himself examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one, ​
and anyone loving violence his soul certainly hates." Ps 11:5​
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“Bring no more futile sacrifices; Incense is an abomination to Me. ​
The New Moons, the Sabbaths, and the calling of assemblies— ​
I cannot endure iniquity and the sacred meeting. Your New Moons​
and your appointed feasts My soul hates; They are a trouble to Me, ​
I am weary of bearing them.. Isa 1:13-14​


What Jesus was being was the eternal Soul of the Lord God of Israel being manifested in a sinless human body, manifested as a PERFECT man!

Keep in mind!

Jesus said that God is 'spirit.' God's 'spirit' essence is not soul!
The Lord God of Israel consisted as a union of Soul and Deity! No body!


But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship ​
the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. ​
God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24​
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That is a mystery solved.
 
Andreas said:
You made the common mistake of ignoring what I said and what the Bible actually says and superimpose your Trinitarian narrative on everything. Everything this doctrine touches becomes corrupted.

You can't truly honor the Son unless you know that all the fullness of the Godhead dwells in him bodily and we are complete in Him. Jesus said he is "the first" (Revelation 1:17), yet Trinitarian doctrine postulates Christ to be a second, and the manifestation of himself not God the Father. That the Son is called such because of the incarnation (Luke 1:35), but you contradict Luke and impose your view of an eternally begotten Son. You've made his humanity of none affect when distinguishing between Father and Son, and support a philosophically empty view of Christ.
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I did no such thing. If you think you can show me how I did any of this?
 
Deity of the Holy Spirit ............


But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to ​
the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? ​
While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not ​
in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? ​
You have not lied to men but to God.” Acts 5:3-4​


Problem even gets worse when men lie to themselves when presented this truth.
 
GeneZ said:
Deity of the Holy Spirit ............


But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to ​
the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? ​
While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not ​
in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? ​
You have not lied to men but to God.” Acts 5:3-4​


Problem even gets worse when men lie to themselves when presented this truth.
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Christ is the Spirit. 2 Cor 3:17.

Oops! No "third person of the trinity" after all.
 
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