True non canonical prophet

[SDAchristian]

Prologue:
AV Mt 15:12-14 Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

"the blind" murdered Jesus, a sabbath keeper over authority issues.

Again, none of this refutes in any way the fact that the Bible is sufficient for revealing God's truth to the church.

You are entitled to a free will opinion, given to you as a gift from GOD, during GOD's free will gift to everyone. Many DO NOT understand GOD's Will in permitting a choice of faith to everyone. A Note to add, buried in time, was GOD's original will for the Apostles to share.

AV Re 16:4-7 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. 7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous [are] thy judgments.

It is clear, that the free will opinion of some false Christians will murder the free will choice of other "saints and prophets" Christians.

When this happens, there is no salvation left for the murderers of "saints and prophets" in the third plague of the last seven plagues.

AV Mk 2:27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for {G3588 ho, the definite article, left out of the translation}man, and not {G3588 ho, the definite article, left out of the translation}man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Is it possible, to take away Jesus' Creator 'Lord'ship over "the sabbath", EVER ???

The laws of men in theocratic governments, will be against the righteousness of Jesus' walk on earth, the ultimate hypocrisy !!!

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[SDAchristian]

Prologue:
AV Ac 1:1-3 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach, 2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: 3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

When was the first Sunday keeping(about 6 right, counting resurrection day) in rest and holiness, as taught by Jesus, Right ???

In the New Testament, the seventh day of the week is called the Sabbath; it is mentioned 58 times. The first day of the week is mentioned eight times. It is simply called the first day of the week, and it is always differentiated from the Sabbath. This in itself is evidence for the continued validity of the seventh-day Sabbath.

Or should I quote direct Catholic sources ???

What New Testament Prophet was Canonical?

AV Hb 9:16-17 For where a testament [is], there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament [is] of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

How about starting with Jesus !!!

How much of the NT changed after Jesus' resurrection("being seen of them forty days") ???

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[SDAchristian]

Prologue:
AV Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted,
and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended,
and shall betray one another,
and shall hate one another.
Name Sake; Michael; His Name Sake
can you not read at a 1st grade level ??????
{Additional Emphasis by SDAchristian}

AV Hb 5:12-14 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Then you must be nursing sour doctrinal milk, from the wrong mother.

AV Mt 5:43-48 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Murder will be the results of poor doctrinal milk.

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[Common Tater]

Prologue:
AV Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

AV Hb 5:12-14 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which [be] the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. 13 For every one that useth milk [is] unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, [even] those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Then you must be nursing sour doctrinal milk, from the wrong mother.

AV Mt 5:43-48 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Murder will be the results of poor doctrinal milk.

Yours in Christ, Michael

Back on March 27th of this year, in Palma, Mozambique, 48 Christians were killed and another 13 wounded by Islamists. The death toll included women and children and several of the victims were beheaded. I'm sure you would consider them "false martyrs" because they were killed, not for the Sabbath, but for Jesus' name's sake.

Speaking of poor doctrinal milk, Adventist Dwight Nelson, lead pastor of Pioneer Memorial Church, located on the campus of Andrews University, claims that Allah is the same god that Adventists worship. This Allah had his angel tell Islam's prophet that there is no atonement, Jesus is not the Son of God, but just a man, there was no crucifixion, Lucifer is a jinn that was created from fire, the Holy Spirit is actually the angel Gabriel, and that the Bible is not reliable. Allah may be the same god that Adventists worship, but he sure ain't the God that Christians worship.

 

[SDAchristian]

Back on March 27th of this year, in Palma, Mozambique, 48 Christians were killed and another 13 wounded by Islamists. The death toll included women and children and several of the victims were beheaded. I'm sure you would consider them "false martyrs" because they were killed, not for the Sabbath, but for Jesus' name's sake.

You called them Christians. Between the two of us neither of US, know their hearts. You just know their story.

AV 1C 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

This is how they earned "damnation", they are clueless about Jesus' righteousness in the flesh/"the Lord's body". And therefore, have not confess those sins to Jesus.

A Law is coming calling every sabbath keeper a sinner in the eyes of men, deserving death. Which works out to condemning Jesus' walk in the flesh, as sin. Contemplate the fullness of this !!!

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[Buzzard]

[[
I am gonna go take a walk somewhere
and Puke; after reading that Hatred Spew from Michael

You called them Christians. Between the two of us neither of US, know their hearts. You just know their story.

AV 1C 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

This is how they earned "damnation", they are clueless about Jesus' righteousness in the flesh/"the Lord's body". And therefore, have not confess those sins to Jesus.

A Law is coming calling every sabbath keeper a sinner in the eyes of men, deserving death. Which works out to condemning Jesus' walk in the flesh, as sin. Contemplate the fullness of this !!!

Yours in Christ, Michael

If I said what I think;
I would and should get Banned from this Board;
and full well I should
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Name Sake; Michael; His Name Sake
not Sabbath --,vs>-- 1st day
can you not read a simple statement ???????
ie:
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted,
and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

 

[Formersda]

[[
I am gonna go take a walk somewhere
and Puke; after reading that Hatred Spew from Michael


If I said what I think;
I would and should get Banned from this Board;
and full well I should
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Name Sake; Michael; His Name Sake
not Sabbath --,vs>-- 1st day
can you not read a simple statement ???????
ie:
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted,
and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

I’m with you on that Buzzard that was pure bile. You sure out did yourself there Michael you sure are winning people for Christ with your vitriol.
Jesus said a new commandment I give to you that you love your neighbour as yourself. He also said by this men will know your in Me that you love others.

That was truly a hateful thing to write but now we know how your heart is.

 

[pythons]

You called them Christians. Between the two of us neither of US, know their hearts. You just know their story.

AV 1C 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

This is how they earned "damnation", they are clueless about Jesus' righteousness in the flesh/"the Lord's body". And therefore, have not confess those sins to Jesus.

A Law is coming calling every sabbath keeper a sinner in the eyes of men, deserving death. Which works out to condemning Jesus' walk in the flesh, as sin. Contemplate the fullness of this !!!

Yours in Christ, Michael

No one will be killed for having a special devotion to the Gregorian Saturday - this is simply something that was assumed would happen in the 19th century. Because Ellen White validated this error with multiple visions SDA's are stuck with it - the belief that everyone will attack THEM for being devoted to Saturn's day is what is holding their ship [world church] together. They can't let this go without identifying Ellen White as the false Prophet turd she cleary was.

 

[SDAchristian]

I am gonna go take a walk somewhere
and Puke; after reading that Hatred Spew from Michael

AV Re 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue{G1692 emeo} thee out of my mouth.

Go head "spue{G1692 emeo}" now. And when it comes true, "spue{G1692 emeo}" again, because it's true !!!

AV Re 16:4-7 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. 5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy. 7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous [are] thy judgments.

You are hopelessly powerless to change this future of the "Lord God Almighty" !!!

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Note to former Adventists: At that time, GOD has finalized your salvific decision.

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[JonHawk]

"I will come down to you so that you may offer an oblation and peace offering; Wait seven days..."

Okay, you have no faith in the prophecy from EGWhite, now !!!

Saul had failed to bear the test of faith at Gilgal, and had brought dishonor upon the service of God; debased by his disobedience, Saul came to meet Samuel with a lie upon his lips. He exclaimed, "Blessed be thou of the Lord: I have performed the commandment of the Lord... Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord..." The prophet swept away the refuge of lies "Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, He hath also rejected thee from being king."​

As Samuel turned to depart, the king, in an agony of fear, laid hold of his mantle to hold him back, but it rent in his hands. Upon this, the prophet declared, "The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbor of thine,..."​

Many, like Saul do despite to the Spirit of grace, until its voice is no longer heard, and they are left to the delusions which they have chosen.​

P&P​

David was the king after God’s own heart, not because of his own goodness, but because he fully embraced the Divine concept of Jesus Christ and of His kingdom. BHOTv4​

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I know the Lord gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand. Ps 20:6
And the Prince will provide purification offerings and the peace offerings to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Ezekiel 45:17
God exalted Him to His own right hand as Prince and Savior...Acts 5:31

Note to former Adventists: At that time, GOD has finalized your salvific decision.

His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it,..." Early Writings, p. 74.​

“My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel; nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord." Ezekiel 13:9

"As for the prophet who prophesies of peace, when the word of the prophet comes to pass, the prophet will be known as one whom the Lord has truly sent.” Jer 28:9

"My word shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.
For you shall go out with joy, And be led out with peace." Isaiah 55:11-12

 

[SDAchristian]

"I will come down to you so that you may offer an oblation and peace offering; Wait seven days..."

Saul had failed to bear the test of faith at Gilgal, and had brought dishonor upon the service of God; debased by his disobedience, Saul came to meet Samuel with a lie upon his lips. He exclaimed, "Blessed be thou of the Lord: I have performed the commandment of the Lord... Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord..." The prophet swept away the refuge of lies "Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, He hath also rejected thee from being king."​

As Samuel turned to depart, the king, in an agony of fear, laid hold of his mantle to hold him back, but it rent in his hands. Upon this, the prophet declared, "The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbor of thine,..."​

Many, like Saul do despite to the Spirit of grace, until its voice is no longer heard, and they are left to the delusions which they have chosen.​

P&P​

David was the king after God’s own heart, not because of his own goodness, but because he fully embraced the Divine concept of Jesus Christ and of His kingdom. BHOTv4​

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I know the Lord gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand. Ps 20:6
And the Prince will provide purification offerings and the peace offerings to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Ezekiel 45:17
God exalted him to His own right hand as Prince and Savior...Acts 5:31

His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it,..." Early Writings, p. 74.​

“My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel; nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord." Ezekiel 13:9

AV Jer 17:9-10 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, [I} try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings.

There is a time for final reckoning with GOD, until then, we have hope in GOD's Grace knowing our hearts.

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[JonHawk]

SDAchristian said:
Okay, you have no faith in the prophecy from EGWhite, now !!!

JonHawk said:
"I will come down to you so that you may offer an oblation and peace offering; Wait seven days..."

Saul had failed to bear the test of faith at Gilgal, and had brought dishonor upon the service of God; debased by his disobedience, Saul came to meet Samuel with a lie upon his lips. He exclaimed, "Blessed be thou of the Lord: I have performed the commandment of the Lord... Yea, I have obeyed the voice of the Lord..." The prophet swept away the refuge of lies "Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, He hath also rejected thee from being king."​

As Samuel turned to depart, the king, in an agony of fear, laid hold of his mantle to hold him back, but it rent in his hands. Upon this, the prophet declared, "The Lord hath rent the kingdom of Israel from thee this day, and hath given it to a neighbor of thine,..."​

Many, like Saul do despite to the Spirit of grace, until its voice is no longer heard, and they are left to the delusions which they have chosen.​

P&P​

David was the king after God’s own heart, not because of his own goodness, but because he fully embraced the Divine concept of Jesus Christ and of His kingdom. BHOTv4​

I know the Lord gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand. Ps 20:6
And the Prince will provide purification offerings and the peace offerings to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Ezekiel 45:17
God exalted him to His own right hand as Prince and Savior...Acts 5:31

His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it,..." Early Writings, p. 74.​

“My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel; nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord." Ezekiel 13:9

AV Jer 17:9-10 The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it? 10 I the LORD search the heart, [I} try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, [and] according to the fruit of his doings.

Search me, O God, and know my heart: Try me, and know my thoughts;
And see if there is any wicked way in me, And lead me in the everlasting way. Psalm 139:23-24

'I will bring on them all the good that I have promised them.'

There is a time for final reckoning with GOD, until then, we have hope in GOD's Grace knowing our hearts.

'I will make an everlasting covenant with them...Yes, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will assuredly plant them in this land, with all My heart and with all My soul.’ Jer 32:40-41

And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. Deuteronomy 30:5-6

 

[SDAchristian]

The prophet swept away the refuge of lies "Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, He hath also rejected thee from being king."
{Additional Emphasis by SDAchristian}

A Loving GOD sees all this and more ...

... But to claim that prayer will always be answered in the very way and for the particular thing that we desire, is presumption. God is too wise to err, and too good to withhold any good thing from them that walk uprightly. Then do not fear to trust Him, even though you do not see the immediate answer to your prayers. Rely upon His sure promise, “Ask, and it shall be given you.”

There is always balance in how some share what GOD is like.

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[pythons]

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Your answers are not relevant to the questions / points I raised.

 

[SDAchristian]

Your answers are not relevant to the questions / points I raised.

That is your free will choice in your opinion to exercise.

As long as, it agrees with GOD's Omniscience in Prophecy.

The Ultimate choice is, if it agrees with GOD's, or agrees with Lucifer's point of view.

GOD's people are ready to die for GOD's Authority. Lucifer's people are ready to kill for their own authority.

Jesus chose to die, hint, hint ...

Yours in Christ, Michael

 

[JonHawk]

JonHawk said:
I know the Lord gives victory to his anointed. He answers him from his heavenly sanctuary with the victorious power of his right hand. Ps 20:6
And the Prince will provide purification offerings and the peace offerings to make reconciliation for the house of Israel. Ezekiel 45:17
God exalted him to His own right hand as Prince and Savior...Acts 5:31

A Loving GOD sees all this and more ...

There is always balance in how some share what GOD is like.

Isaiah says: “Thou, most upright, dost weigh the path of the just.” Isaiah 26:7​

All men are weighed in the balances of the sanctuary, and God would have all realize this fact. Hannah said, “The Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.” 1 Samuel 2:3​

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The work must begin at the heart.... If the heart is right with God, then the whole life will be purified, refined, ennobled, sanctified. If the eye is single the whole body is filled with light. Religion is not a matter of externalities.... Religion is a thing of the heart.​

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Why did Christ die? Because it was the only means for man to be saved.... He took upon Himself our sins that He might impute His righteousness to all who believe in Him.... The goodness and the love of God lead the sinner to repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.​

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The Lord Jesus laid the foundation of the building, and He lays “the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it.” Zechariah 4:7. He is the author and finisher of our faith, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.​

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“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.” Romans 8:1​

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The value of man as God estimates him is through his union with Christ; for God is the only One able to raise man in the scale of moral worth through the righteousness of Christ. 45 Letter 9, 1873​

Our High Calling - Page 139-142​

 

[pythons]

That is your free will choice in your opinion to exercise.

As long as, it agrees with GOD's Omniscience in Prophecy.

The Ultimate choice is, if it agrees with GOD's, or agrees with Lucifer's point of view.

GOD's people are ready to die for GOD's Authority. Lucifer's people are ready to kill for their own authority.

Jesus chose to die, hint, hint ...

Yours in Christ, Michael

we've already established that Ellen White didn't reflect God's Omniscience - primarily because Ellen wasn't a prophet - she was just a flim flam woman at the right place at the right time.

You won't ever have to worry about dying because of the Sabbath - you're golden.

 

[Buzzard]

No one will be killed for having a special devotion to the Gregorian Saturday - this is simply something that was assumed would happen in the 19th century. Because Ellen White validated this error with multiple visions SDA's are stuck with it - the belief that everyone will attack THEM for being devoted to Saturn's day is what is holding their ship [world church] together. They can't let this go without identifying Ellen White as the false Prophet turd she cleary was.

Ellen was not necessary an evil person
she had bad mental problems and her husband and a few other of the """Pioneers"""" were more than willing
to use her to deceive others
in her mental state, she was ezy prey to men of that sort

because they received not the love of the truth
God shall send them strong delusion that they should beleive a lie

 

[Buzzard]

Matt.7:24
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine,
and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25 And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that house;
and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine,
and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man,
which built his house upon the sand:

27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.​

Michael;
The SDA church is built upon sand
a misapplication of Daniels 2300 Days;

And he said unto me,
Unto two thousand and three hundred days;
then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.​

not 2nd coming
The entire SDA is built upon that disappointment
"Built upon Sand"
a foolish man,
which built his house upon the sand:

 

[JonHawk]

That is your free will choice in your opinion to exercise.

As long as, it agrees with GOD's Omniscience in Prophecy.

we've already established that Ellen White didn't reflect God's Omniscience - primarily because Ellen wasn't a prophet - she was just a flim flam woman at the right place at the right time.

You won't ever have to worry about dying because of the Sabbath - you're golden.

According to SDAchristian the "flim flam" woman was at the wrong place at the wrong time, since she was misguided by blind guides:

August ‎3, ‎2010
What I am saying is, before the visions from GOD came with truth, she was misdirected by men setting dates.

I understand only a little of that mystery, but I know to have faith and not doubt. So GOD chose not to remove all doubt, so that we could exercise faith.

Whatever is not from faith is sin.

Ellen's Early Writings
The green cord represented faith
My guide now opened the door, and we both passed out. He bade me take up again all the things I had left without. This done, he handed me a green cord coiled up closely. This he directed me to place next my heart...