Trump Still Has More Paths (13) to Win 2020 Election Than Biden (10)

Authentic Nouveau

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Bidet needed to have ballots delivered by trucks after the Election to pull "ahead"

He also needed poll workers to destroy Trump ballots.

The left had been preparing to get defeated and here are plans predicted to overcome trailing



This Article considers the possibility that a major dispute over the outcome of the 2020 presidential election could arise, even without foreign interference or some other extraordinary event, but rather just from the ordinary process of counting ballots. Building upon previous research on the “blue shift” phenomenon, whereby adjustments in vote tallies during the canvassing of returns tends to advantage Democratic candidates, it is easy to imagine a dispute arising if this kind of “blue shift” were consequential in the presidential race. Using examples from both Pennsylvania and Arizona, two states susceptible to significant “blue shifts” in previous elections, the article shows how the dispute could reach Congress, where it potentially might metastasize into a full-fledged constitutional crisis. The most frightening scenario is where the dispute remains unresolved on January 20, 2021, the date for the inauguration of the new presidential term, and the military is uncertain as to who is entitled to receive the nuclear codes as commander-in-chief. In order to avoid this risk, Congress should amend the relevant statute, 3 U.S.C. § 15.

54 pages and they even knew which states would get the dirtiest.
 

TeabagSalad

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I feel sorry for the Trump supporters that have been completely taken in by Trump's lies. It seems to be hard for them to accept that in order for something to actually be true it must be supported by evidence, rather than just accepting Trump's lies as truth!
 

Ignatius

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I feel sorry for the Trump supporters that have been completely taken in by Trump's lies. It seems to be hard for them to accept that in order for something to actually be true it must be supported by evidence, rather than just accepting Trump's lies as truth!
Is CNN your "evidence" that the lying racist groping imbecile joe won?
 

Loki

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Is CNN your "evidence" that the lying racist groping imbecile joe won?
I'd say the fact that states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania have certified their presidential vote totals for Biden is pretty strong evidence he won.
 

Torin

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The only thing of value I got from this OP is the fantastic insult "Bidet," which is second only to "Rump."

I expect to be using both!
 

vibise

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I'd say the fact that states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania have certified their presidential vote totals for Biden is pretty strong evidence he won.
"pretty strong evidence"? It is well beyond that point. Most states have certified and Trump is consistently losing in court. Trump has no path to a second term come January.

Biden is President-elect, soon to be President Biden. Period.
 

Loki

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Until or unless they get overturned
Every time the Trump legal team skates by yet another critical election deadline without contest, they redirect the attention of the hapless denizens of Trumpistan to the next important date and fill their heads with fanciful schemes of stealing the election.

First it was the various deadlines by which key states are required by law to certify their votes: November 20 for Georgia, November 23 for Michigan and Pennsylvania, November 24 for Nevada, November 30 for Arizona, and December 1 for Wisconsin. According to erstwhile Trump attorney Sidney Powell, the president had assembled an "elite strike force team" that was poised to to prove conclusively in court that there had been massive election fraud. She stated she would "unleash the kraken" in her legal efforts to overturn the election results and that her case would be "biblical" in scale. But these inflated claims soon proved to be nothing but bluster and bravado. The Trump team never alleged widespread fraud in the numerous frivolous lawsuits it filed in the 2020 swing states, nor has it ever produced the evidence needed to substantiate such an extraordinary claim. Giuliani asserted their legal strategy is to get to the Supreme Court, but so far they have declined to appeal the Third Circuit rejection of their broad challenge to the election results in Pennsylvania. The only significant action that was taken in face of the approaching certification deadlines consisted of a gross abuse of political power with corrupt intent: Trump used the weight of his office to urge key Republicans to break the law. But these efforts ended in failure.

Now that the state certification deadlines have passed, the next significant date is the December 8 "safe harbor" deadline. The slate of electors chosen by the people may not be contested legally beyond this point. In response to this looming cutoff, a number of Trump supporters and sycophants have refocused attention on the farfetched prospect of Republican legislatures executing an end run around the courts and simply replacing the electors chosen by the people with their own Trump-friendly slate. But, as I've explained elsewhere, such efforts would swiftly run into insurmountable legal roadblocks. So all this talk is again just for show.

Once the December 8 deadline passes, the Electoral College will meet on December 14 and select Biden as the next president of the United States. My guess is then the talk in Trumpistan will shift to the date of January 6, the day on which Congress will formally count the electoral votes and declare the winner. This process can be delayed if a representative teams up with a senator to protest the count, and there will no doubt be a lot of hot air expended in the usual right-wing safe spaces about overturning the election results in precisely this manner as a last-ditch attempt to prevent Biden from assuming his duties as the duly elected president of the United States. But this scheme also can only end in failure. The Democrats can easily counter by delaying the results until January 20. No matter what happens, Trump will cease to be president on that day. If Congress cannot certify the results of the Electoral College by that date, the Speaker of the House becomes president. Right now, that looks very likely to be Nancy Pelosi. But the Speaker of the House is not required to be a member of Congress, and the House could simply elect Joe Biden as the new Speaker. Are Republicans really going to risk incurring the intense public backlash and derision that would result from all this legal gamesmanship simply to have Biden as president in the end anyway? Is the GOP so afraid of the Trump mob of maddened supporters that they would jeopardize their political careers and the potential for party control over Congress in 2022? Of course they won't, and Trump knows this as well as any serious-minded person serving in government.

The truth is Trump is afraid that his status as loser of the 2020 election will prevent him from continuing to fleece his millions of his supporters once he is out of office. The soon-to-be-ex-president has loans amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars coming due in the near future and it is quite clear he has nowhere near the wealth he likes to claim. Hence he has engaged in an Orwellian scam to persuade his followers that the loser is, in fact, the winner. The man has always put his own priorities ahead of his duties as president, so it comes as no surprise he is willing to undermine the integrity of our democracy to suit his own financial and personal needs. That so many Americans allow themselves to be hoodwinked by a such an openly corrupt and illiberal man who treats them with scorn, condescension, and contempt remains an extremely unpleasant mystery.
 

Loki

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"pretty strong evidence"? It is well beyond that point. Most states have certified and Trump is consistently losing in court. Trump has no path to a second term come January.

Biden is President-elect, soon to be President Biden. Period.
I intended my comment as dry understatement.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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I'd say the fact that states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, and Pennsylvania have certified their presidential vote totals for Biden is pretty strong evidence he won.
"Certified" is a joke when we find fraud. It isn't evidence at all.
I take you have no clue how CPAs work or how forensic audits are done. You have your liberal drama queenery instead.
 

Bob Carabbio

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Bidet needed to have ballots delivered by trucks after the Election to pull "ahead"

He also needed poll workers to destroy Trump ballots.

The left had been preparing to get defeated and here are plans predicted to overcome trailing





54 pages and they even knew which states would get the dirtiest.
Let's what Happens Dec 14, and January 20th. That's when the REAL fun starts. In the meantime the media is busy trying to get their COVID panic started again, since people are losing interest in it.
 

Loki

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Let's what Happens Dec 14, and January 20th. That's when the REAL fun starts. In the meantime the media is busy trying to get their COVID panic started again, since people are losing interest in it.

I'm not sure what you think is going to be so interesting about December 14. The Republican legislatures cannot legally override the will of the voters and appoint a Trump-friendly slate of electors. The people representing the key swing states won by Biden at the Electoral College will consist of folks chosen by the Democratic Party in no small part on the basis of their loyalty and trustworthiness. There isn't going to be an unprecedented wave of faithless electors, and even if there were, thirty-three states have laws that require electors to vote as they pledged when nominated. Some states (like Nevada, Arizona, and Michigan) even have laws that explicitly cancel the votes of faithless electors.

And January 20 can only be interesting in the manner of Trump's departure from the White House. He will cease to be president on that date and will find himself marched off the premises if he is foolish enough to linger. Joe Biden will take his his place as the forty-sixth duly elected president of the United States and no amount of political trickery is going to change that. Elections have consequences and the will of the people will be respected in this country. We won't stand for anything less. Come next year, we will finally have a president who takes the duties of his office seriously and provides the sort of leadership this nation desperately needs in the midst of the ongoing pandemic.
 

AprilRose

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I'm not sure what you think is going to be so interesting about December 14. The Republican legislatures cannot legally override the will of the voters and appoint a Trump-friendly slate of electors. The people representing the key swing states won by Biden at the Electoral College will consist of folks chosen by the Democratic Party in no small part on the basis of their loyalty and trustworthiness. There isn't going to be an unprecedented wave of faithless electors, and even if there were, thirty-three states have laws that require electors to vote as they pledged when nominated. Some states (like Nevada, Arizona, and Michigan) even have laws that explicitly cancel the votes of faithless electors.

I don't think they know how it works though.

January 20 will be interesting. How will Mr. Trump vacate the white house? Lol
 

Loki

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I don't think they know how it works though.

January 20 will be interesting. How will Mr. Trump vacate the white house? Lol
Even worse, I don't think some of these folks even want to understand. As far as Trump is concerned, my guess is he will be long gone before January 20. I can't imagine someone with so fragile an ego would permit himself to be humiliated by being the first ex-president in history to be escorted off the premises of the White House as a common trespasser.
 

Bob Carabbio

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I'm not sure what you think is going to be so interesting about December 14. The Republican legislatures cannot legally override the will of the voters and appoint a Trump-friendly slate of electors. The people representing the key swing states won by Biden at the Electoral College will consist of folks chosen by the Democratic Party in no small part on the basis of their loyalty and trustworthiness. There isn't going to be an unprecedented wave of faithless electors, and even if there were, thirty-three states have laws that require electors to vote as they pledged when nominated. Some states (like Nevada, Arizona, and Michigan) even have laws that explicitly cancel the votes of faithless electors.

And January 20 can only be interesting in the manner of Trump's departure from the White House. He will cease to be president on that date and will find himself marched off the premises if he is foolish enough to linger. Joe Biden will take his his place as the forty-sixth duly elected president of the United States and no amount of political trickery is going to change that. Elections have consequences and the will of the people will be respected in this country. We won't stand for anything less. Come next year, we will finally have a president who takes the duties of his office seriously and provides the sort of leadership this nation desperately needs in the midst of the ongoing pandemic.
Chuckle!!
 

Authentic Nouveau

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"pretty strong evidence"? It is well beyond that point. Most states have certified and Trump is consistently losing in court. Trump has no path to a second term come January.

Biden is President-elect, soon to be President Biden. Period.
Fake News

You haven't studied law. The AG in Michigan wanted the polling people to hurry and erase their polling equipment.

Spoliation of evidence is an indication of crime.
 
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