Trump to start acting like he's won a second term

J regia

Well-known member
Marxist hatred and military grade confusionism.

President Trump is President today. How do you observe his behavior January 23, 2024?
More relevant is how do you observe his behaviour January 23, 2021, and whether he will be playing golf in Scotland or Moscow?
 

Carol

Active member
The real irony here is that California is by far the largest contributor to US GDP and pays more in taxes than it receives in federal spending. But that misses the larger point.

Your question is illustrative of the poison Trump has introduced into our politics. Since when is it appropriate for a sitting president to threaten the withholding of federal aid over petty politics or on the basis of whom that state awarded its electoral votes? Since when is it decorous for a president to mock the citizens of that state in the midst of a natural disaster? Did you ask the same question of folks along the Gulf Coast in the wake of hurricane season? Do you think it would be proper if Biden vindictively threatened to deny aid to any state in the midst of a disaster which he viewed as overly friendly to Trump?

The federal government doesn't belong to the Trump Organization and its supporters. It belongs to the American people. Don't they teach civics in high school anymore?

Fires (or earthquakes, mudslides....) in California are nothing new. People who choose to live there take those risks. I never even cared to visit the place myself....

Listen- this American experiment was meant to be a union of states, with state governments to take care of state matters.

Californians also pay big bucks to the state. Where's all that going?

Running for reelection, Sen Gary Peters talked about "saving the Great Lakes ". I consider that a matter for the Great Lakes states.
 

Loki

Active member
Fires (or earthquakes, mudslides....) in California are nothing new. People who choose to live there take those risks. I never even cared to visit the place myself....

Listen- this American experiment was meant to be a union of states, with state governments to take care of state matters.

Californians also pay big bucks to the state. Where's all that going?

Running for reelection, Sen Gary Peters talked about "saving the Great Lakes ". I consider that a matter for the Great Lakes states.
Your response completely ignored the two key questions I asked in my post. Please address them.

1. Since when is it appropriate for a sitting president to threaten the withholding of federal aid over petty politics or on the basis of whom that state awarded its electoral votes? Since when is it decorous for a president to mock the citizens of that state in the midst of a natural disaster? Did you ask the same question of folks along the Gulf Coast in the wake of hurricane season?

2. Do you think it would be proper if Biden vindictively threatened to deny aid to any Gulf Coast state which he viewed as overly friendly to Trump in the immediate aftermath of a hurricane?
 

Carol

Active member
Your response completely ignored the two key questions I asked in my post. Please address them.

Loaded questions.

1. Since when is it appropriate for a sitting president to threaten the withholding of federal aid over petty politics or on the basis of whom that state awarded its electoral votes? Since when is it decorous for a president to mock the citizens of that state in the midst of a natural disaster? Did you ask the same question of folks along the Gulf Coast in the wake of hurricane season?

2. Do you think it would be proper if Biden vindictively threatened to deny aid to any Gulf Coast state which he viewed as overly friendly to Trump in the immediate aftermath of a hurricane?
 

Carol

Active member
Explain how these are loaded questions.

Your assumptions of motives.

I don't agree with all this federal "aid" being thrown around, but even so- why should a state that has been violating federal law be entitled?
 

Temujin

Well-known member
Your assumptions of motives.

I don't agree with all this federal "aid" being thrown around, but even so- why should a state that has been violating federal law be entitled?
To help blameless citizens who are in fire need. At the very least the president could throw rolls of paper towels to them
 

Harry Leggs

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This fun story comes from a piece in Politico.

Trump and his aides have settled on a plan for him to take full advantage of his existing perch at the White House to look as presidential as possible, according to three people briefed on the strategy.​
Yes Trump has the high ground and 70 + million angry Trump voters reasonably convinced of election fraud via postal voting. This article cites anonymous sources. (three people?) via the lying press.
He may fire a few Cabinet members and top aides, including FBI Director Christopher Wray and Defense Secretary Mark Esper. He could sign a slew of base-pleasing executive orders. He might even resume his travel schedule.​
May, could, might, all weasel words. Meaningless since it can also mean may not, could not, and might not. Fake news where facts are substituted with speculation by who knows who or if they exist at all? Another example of the so-called press doing what it does best. Lying to the public with appeals to low Infos and leftists with a preference for lies over truth. With the left, truth is the enemy because truth does not advance their cause. Lies are their allies.
Ah yes, nothing is more presidential than lashing out in frustration at people just doing their jobs.
We despise incompetence. Doing their jobs. What a laff.
Maybe he thinks he can bamboozle the American people into forgetting who won the election,
Trump won the election since the Dems cheated in part with postal voting. Odds are Biden got no more than 65 million votes and that is generous and that means over 10 + million questionable votes via postal voting in Dem controlled sections of the country where ad hoc circumstances were applied. No voter ID and on and on. The good news, it is being investigated.
but if he ends up losing (and it looks all but certain that he will), I'm sure the Secret Service will have no problem packing his bags and escorting him off the premises of the White House on January 20 should he refuse to concede.
We will see about that. In the meantime, it all has to survive the courts and extensive investigations. Anybody attempting to pass all this off as legit has got their heads where there is no sunshine. If it is all legit then where is the transparancy from the Dems. Why the obstruction? Just watch the Dems in court attempting to shut it all down including dissent. It will not work. There is too much at stake here. We are not at the event horizon yet and that is in spite of leftist misinformation and attempts. There is no reason to purpor the secret service is going to escort Trump out other than leftist wet dreams. Perhaps it is time to push back against leftists' lies and see just how tough they are.

Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
 

Electric Skeptic

Well-known member
Yes Trump has the high ground and 70 + million angry Trump voters reasonably convinced of election fraud via postal voting. This article cites anonymous sources. (three people?) via the lying press.
Neither you nor anybody else has any idea how many Trump voters have jumped on Trump's sour grapes 'election fraud' nonsense. And however many there are, not one has produced any evidence at all.
We despise incompetence. Doing their jobs. What a laff.
So Trump leaves them in their jobs for the entire term of his presidency but discovers they are incompetent only after he loses the election? Makes perfect sense.
Trump won the election since the Dems cheated in part with postal voting. Odds are Biden got no more than 65 million votes and that is generous and that means over 10 + million questionable votes via postal voting in Dem controlled sections of the country where ad hoc circumstances were applied. No voter ID and on and on. The good news, it is being investigated.
Unsupported nonsense, as always. There is nothing to investigate. Not one of Trump's whines has any supporting evidence.
We will see about that. In the meantime, it all has to survive the courts and extensive investigations. Anybody attempting to pass all this off as legit has got their heads where there is no sunshine. If it is all legit then where is the transparancy from the Dems. Why the obstruction? Just watch the Dems in court attempting to shut it all down including dissent. It will not work. There is too much at stake here. We are not at the event horizon yet and that is in spite of leftist misinformation and attempts. There is no reason to purpor the secret service is going to escort Trump out other than leftist wet dreams. Perhaps it is time to push back against leftists' lies and see just how tough they are.
The courts are already throwing out Trump's nonsense claims. Zero evidence. There is and was no obstruction. It is just Trump's sour grapes whine...and his boot-lickers are embracing his idiocy.
 

rossum

Well-known member
Yes Trump has the high ground and 70 + million angry Trump voters reasonably convinced of election fraud via postal voting.
So the election was fraudulent. Right. Then you need to disbar all Senators, Representatives, State Governors, State Senators, State Representatives, Sheriffs, Dog Catchers etc. who were 'elected' anywhere on 3 Nov. If the election was a fraud, then it was all a fraud.

You need to re-run the whole thing. The TV networks will love you, all those juicy ad slots they can sell. Again.
 

Thistle

Well-known member
This fun story comes from a piece in Politico.

Trump and his aides have settled on a plan for him to take full advantage of his existing perch at the White House to look as presidential as possible, according to three people briefed on the strategy. He may fire a few Cabinet members and top aides, including FBI Director Christopher Wray and Defense Secretary Mark Esper. He could sign a slew of base-pleasing executive orders. He might even resume his travel schedule.​

Ah yes, nothing is more presidential than lashing out in frustration at people just doing their jobs. Maybe he thinks he can bamboozle the American people into forgetting who won the election, but if he ends up losing (and it looks all but certain that he will), I'm sure the Secret Service will have no problem packing his bags and escorting him off the premises of the White House on January 20 should he refuse to concede.
Trump did win. [link]
 

Whateverman

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I don't think there's any chance that a shabby, vulgar con-man like Trump has any clue how a president is supposed to act.
What was most interesting (to me) about the last two weeks was watching Biden act more presidential than Trump has ever been in his life - and Biden was doing it instinctively.
 

Whateverman

Well-known member
It's a low bar.
That's quite true.

Maybe if it had come after a different election, I might not have been struck by the contrast as much as I was this year. Nonetheless, it was refreshing/reassuring to a ridiculous extent (for me).
 

Temujin

Well-known member
That's quite true.

Maybe if it had come after a different election, I might not have been struck by the contrast as much as I was this year. Nonetheless, it was refreshing/reassuring to a ridiculous extent (for me).
Oh, I quite agree. For Biden, as indeed for most Presidents I can think of, they have grown in stature to fit the role. Trump is the exception, diminishing the presidency to fit his mean persona. The most encouraging thing is to see that the damage he has done is not permanent.
 
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