Why can't all that happen if we are spirits from the start?
We do have a spirit from the start, but it is our own spirit, or mind, it just isn't Gods Mind, or Spirit the mind is called.
Not even Jesus was born with Gods mind so obvious in Matt 3:16 where God came tp that man and gave him His mind, His same disposition of mind, otherwise Spirit.
Then that would include your creed. You are a creed-making person as much as any other Christian.
Only to you who has not met thew Father face to face for had you you would know that it is not a creed to be like Him as He commands of you as well but the stark reality of His actual being.
That is not a creed that is obedience to actually meet and receieve from God theta what Jesus did in Matt 3:16, Adam did in Gen 3:22 Abraham did, Moses did, 120 did, and so do all today who has been Him as He is for we are like Him, and when you see Him asa He really is ye shall be like Him as well. 1 John 3.
The reason His way is a creed for you is you follow a different god aside from the One Jesus met and was of.
But that's a creed of your own!
if you believe that Jesus in his ways in the Father was only a creed and not teacher of Gods way then there really isn't anything Jesus or God or I can can say because you stand in the road and will not let Him pass.
I don't understand this question.
And that is your answer. You do not understand what it is to be of God as Jesus was of God.
I don't see why God would espouse all this "inside-outside" creed you keep posting.
That is from lack in having met Him face to face where He comes into man from the outward inward. See Matt 3:16. He came to Jesus from the outward to the inward man. That is why you see His ways as a creed and not the reality of Him manifest Himself in you as He did Jesus and these others who God manifested Himself in.
The reality of God is not a creed, it id God Himself coming to you, the One who is at your door knocking this day and anyone who will let Him in He WILL COME TO YOU AND SUP WITH YOU AND BE IN YOU. Rev 3:20-21.
I know that you see that as a creed but we who He is come to it isn't a creed at all but living His own way of life, that of Christ to be Gods anointed.
Ask yourself why you see the ways of Jesus as a creed!
No, Jesus preached a creed that He made real for us.
No quite contrary -- Jesus preached a life to live that isn't a creed but is the reality of. You just never heard the teachings of Jesus is all, all you have head is the creed of the ones you follow instead of being like Jesus was in the father, walk as He walks in His same light, have the same signs following you. Those things are not a creed Soldier they are the reality of meeting God face to face.
Jesus "creeds" to all of us.
If all that Jesus can do is tell you what you should be, then he was the biggest failure ever to step foot on this planet. If all he can do is present to you the the laws for a creed with no reality, then God failed miserably of the one He sent to lead you to the Father.
That's an interesting creed you have there.
I t is only a creed for this who has not met God that He been you and you be in Him as one as Jesus preyed to this God for you to be. And because you cant get to that place of reality then to you Jesus was only a creed by law. Creeds are only driven by law, that is why we who are of God as Jesus was are no longer under the laws for a creed. Jesus came out from under that creed in Matt 3:16 when God kicked him out of the creed, or laws that creeds are, of the Jewish temple.
But God manifesting in us is a creed.
That is impossible. Either He is come to you and be in you or He is not and the lsaws of your creed forbid you to be like Him and perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect.
You cant distinguish law from reality is all. It is one or the other, either you are like Him, or you are like another.
Actually, without creeds I think that there would be no Christianity.
If everyone receieved from God that what Jesus did in Matt 3:16 there would be no creeds for a god at all. We all would be like Him as is common with those who saw Him as He really is.
Creeds are designed to stir you toward laws for a belief for a god. The God who came to Jesus in Matt 3:16 comes and frees us from those laws. That is exactly what you cannot grasp for everything to you is a creed, laws for a belief, with no reality, noting tangible that you can relate to.
The Religious minded as yourself comes to me with the demand that I believe this and that and do this and that.
The Spiritual minded comes to me with the demand that I square my life with the standards of Jesus Christ.
To you the ways of Jesus is only a creed to follow by law with no reality of God manifest Himself in you.
I do get where you are coming from for I was of creeds of man for 30 years when God came to me and opened up who He is and all of His heaven in me. See Matt 3:16 this is how He does it in man from Adam right down to me.
I'm not ignorant for what a creed is and certainly not ignorant for what reality is.
I was deacon and elder, teacher of the creed, preached it no different from what Jesus did even at a young age but the same day came to me as came to Jesus in Matt 3:16 and in that I was kicked out from these creeds just as Jesus was and now Look -- the very ones he once creed to are the very ones, as yourself, who had him crucified for blaspheme against the laws of their creed to follow.
Soldier -- Reality is not a creed!