Two Distinct Persons Within God / One Verse.

[101G]

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When Scripture makes an analogy, it can't be wrong to reference that same analogy: "YHWH says to my Lord: 'Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.'" Psalm 110:1. This is the most quoted verse in the NT.

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sit at the right hand .... means in POWER. there is ONLY one who sit on the THRONE, and that's GOD, the Lord Jesus, who is Now Glorified in heavenly flesh and bone. the Amalgamation of Spirit and a body, flesh and bone.

now note, he who sits is the LORD .... in Flesh, supportive scripture, Psalms 132:11 "The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.".

now.... in concrete form, there is no one next to him either right or left. listen and Learn, Revelation 3:21 " To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." got it now? there is no one sitting on the left or right, physically, but IN, IN, IN. how do you know this 101G? John 14:20 " At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."

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[DoctrinesofGraceBapt]

Cool.

When Scripture makes an analogy, it can't be wrong to reference that same analogy: "YHWH says to my Lord: 'Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.'" Psalm 110:1. This is the most quoted verse in the NT.

sit at the right hand .... means in POWER. there is ONLY one who sit on the THRONE, and that's GOD, the Lord Jesus, who is Now Glorified in heavenly flesh and bone. the Amalgamation of Spirit and a body, flesh and bone.

now note, he who sits is the LORD .... in Flesh, supportive scripture, Psalms 132:11 "The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.".

So, who is "my Lord" who is ordered to sit at YHWH's right hand in Psalm 110:1? After all, "YHWH says to my Lord: 'Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.'" Psalm 110:1. Who is YHWH talking with?

now.... in concrete form, there is no one next to him either right or left. listen and Learn, Revelation 3:21 " To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." got it now? there is no one sitting on the left or right, physically, but IN, IN, IN. how do you know this 101G? John 14:20 " At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you."

You do realize your doctrine is only being justified in the narrative surrounding these verses you quote. Your doctrine isn't found in the passages you quote.

"And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying, “To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be blessing and honor and glory and might forever and ever!” And the four living creatures said, “Amen!” and the elders fell down and worshiped." Revelation 5:13-14. What's up with mentioning "him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb"?

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[101G]

“Person” refers to the center of consciousness and includes the idea of mind, will and desire. Just as I am a being with one center of self-consciousness, who I call “I”, God should be one being with one center of self-consciousness who identifies as “I”.

if this is true, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." is the FIRST and the Last here, is this two separate persons? yes, or no.

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[Andreas]

Two Distinct Persons Within God / One Verse.



Oneness: What do they believe?

• We acknowledge "Sola Scriptura" seriously.
• There is One God with no distinction of persons.
• Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the one true God manifested in the flesh. He is the One God incarnate. Jesus is the human personification of God.
• We believe in Father, Son and Holy Ghost but do not hold that these are three distinct persons,
• The OT establishes that there is One God without distinction of persons. (Isaiah 45)

Central to Oneness is the concept of the Oneness of God. Just like Christianity rises and falls on the Resurrection, Oneness rises and falls on the Oneness of God. We can logically conclude from the above that just as I am one being / one person, God is one being/ one person.

We need to define person.

“Person” refers to the center of consciousness and includes the idea of mind, will and desire. Just as I am a being with one center of self-consciousness, who I call “I”, God should be one being with one center of self-consciousness who identifies as “I”.

Since it the Oneness position that the OT establishes that there is One God without distinction of persons, we should not find any contradiction to this claim.

I submit the following.

Below is Isaiah 44:6 were two individuals are identified as YHWH, = YHWH the King of Israel and YHWH the Lord of Host, both claiming to be an “I”, both claiming to be the First and Last and both claiming singularity by addressing themselves as “Me”.

Isaiah 44:6 “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel, And His Redeemer, the Lord of host, :I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God. {NKJV}

In the original language “Lord” is translated from YHWH therefore this verse reads. “Thus says YHWH, the King of Israel, and His Redeemer, YHWH, Lord of host, I am the First and I am the Last, Besides Me the is no God.

The suffix ‘his’ is found in the word redeemer “וְגֹאֲל֖וֹ” (in red] establishes a relationship between YHWH the King of Israel and YHWH Lord of Host.

We have two distinct individuals [suffix ‘his’ establishes], identifying themselves as YHWH, also identifying themselves as individuals {‘I’}, therefore each a center of self-consciousness. Here we have two centers of self-consciousness’ therefore two distinct persons within God claiming to be a singularity “Me”.



כה thus --- אמר he said -- יהוה: Yahweh -- מלך king of-- ישׂראל: Israel-- ו: and-- גאל redeemer

הוא his/him-- יהוה: Yahweh of-- צבא hosts-- אני I-- ראשׁון first-- ו: and-- אני I-- אחרון: last—

ו: and--- מן from--- בלעדי: without-- אני me-- אין does not exist-- אלהים: God



Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel,

כה thus אמר he said יהוה: Yahweh מלך king of ישׂראל : Israel

And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:

ו: and הוא his/him גאל redeemer יהוה : Yahweh of-- צבא hosts


‘I am the First and I am the Last;

אני I-- ראשׁון first-- ו: and-- אני I-- אחרון: last—


Besides Me there is no God

בלעדי: without-- אני me-- אין does not exist-- אלהים : God

PHILIPPIANS 4:20 "To our God and Father be glory for ever and ever. Amen."

This is not a reference to two persons even though the word AND is used. So too with Isaiah 44:6. You are abusing grammar and reading comprehension.