Two ultra popular sins and transgressions which trigger Athe condemnation Homophobia and stereotyping

Authentic Nouveau

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The two biggest stereotyping based accusations hurled by atheists.
The sin of "homophobia" Calling all believers "homophobic" if they let you know the Sodomites are sinners.

But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly. Gen 13:13

Where is it written there is such a sin? (Homophobia)
Why can nobody display cases for review which demonstrate Phobic behavior?

If atheists hate someone they will call them racist.

Here is a list of phobias
It is not political driven


Apparently the intolerant heathen are afraid of Believers. They tossed the Disciples in jail.
 

The Pixie

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If atheists hate someone they will call them racist.
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I am not aware of anyone on CARM who throws around the "racist" insult as much as you do, not by a long way. A search on CARM for "racist" in your posts turns up around thirty posts, which supports that view.

But I guess hypocrisy is a way of life for some Christians. It is not like Jesus ever said hypocrisy is wrong. Oh wait, he did. Well, who gives a hoot what Jesus actually said, right?
 

Furion

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The two biggest stereotyping based accusations hurled by atheists.
The sin of "homophobia" Calling all believers "homophobic" if they let you know the Sodomites are sinners.



Where is it written there is such a sin? (Homophobia)
Why can nobody display cases for review which demonstrate Phobic behavior?

If atheists hate someone they will call them racist.

Here is a list of phobias
It is not political driven


Apparently the intolerant heathen are afraid of Believers. They tossed the Disciples in jail.

Christophobia and Believophobia are very prevalent here.
 

AprilRose

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But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly. Gen 13:13
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Sodom is not synonymous with homosexulaity. The whole story of Sodom and Gamorrah was never about homosexuals. It was sexual immorality and pervesion in general. If you read Jude 1:7 in several versions, it says fornication, strange flesh (beastiality), all sorts of sexual sins, perversions, and etc.

Not sure why some people single out homosexuality as the only sin of Sodom and Gamorrah. It did not single out the gay folks there. It singled out all the perverts and deviants in that two cities who were exceedingly wicked and foul.
 
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Authentic Nouveau

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But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly. Gen 13:13
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Sodom is not synonymous with homosexulaity. The whole story of Sodom and Gamorrah was never about homosexuals. It was sexual immorality and pervesion in general. If you read Jude 1:7 in several versions, it says fornication, strange flesh (beastiality), all sorts of sexual sins, perversions, and etc.

Not sure why some people single out homosexuality as the only sin of Sodom and Gamorrah. It did not single out the gay folks there. It singled out all the perverts and deviants in that two cities who were exceedingly wicked and foul.
You are wrong. But you insert carnal echo chamber talking points.

Who "single out homosexuality as the only sin"?

You contradict yourself when claiming "never about homosexuals" and then going back with sexual immorality and perversion.

So the Sodomites trying to beat down Lot's front door to have homosexual sex in your head was "never about homosexuals".
According to Orthodox Darwinistism, beastiality [sic] is kosher since they declared humans to be apes.

Using Jude 7 to negate Sodomite sinner's deeds won't work.

Pedophile Homosexuals.

But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

The young had been molested by pedophiles and that is why they are also involved chasing for sex with the guests.

All the people. All means all. All of the people were familiar with homosexual sex in public.

By the way, Abraham and Lot never read Jude or Ezekiel. That trick don't work.
 

AprilRose

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Who "single out homosexuality as the only sin"?
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We both agree then.

FYI, straight men can engage in homosexual acts to humiliate the weaker male, especially in prison. When they do it, they see the victim as female.
 

J regia

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You are wrong. But you insert carnal echo chamber talking points.

Who "single out homosexuality as the only sin"?

You contradict yourself when claiming "never about homosexuals" and then going back with sexual immorality and perversion.

So the Sodomites trying to beat down Lot's front door to have homosexual sex in your head was "never about homosexuals".
According to Orthodox Darwinistism, beastiality [sic] is kosher since they declared humans to be apes.

Using Jude 7 to negate Sodomite sinner's deeds won't work.

Pedophile Homosexuals.

But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

The young had been molested by pedophiles and that is why they are also involved chasing for sex with the guests.

All the people. All means all. All of the people were familiar with homosexual sex in public.

By the way, Abraham and Lot never read Jude or Ezekiel. That trick don't work.
Jesus, however, said the S&G story was about inhospitality (Matt 11:24), and the story in Gen 18 says that it was about the number of righteous children.

And the story in Gen 19 has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality either and describes how Lot's sons-in-law wanted to know what the two strangers were up to in Lot's house, and how Lot then tried to pimp their future wives and sexually assaulted them after mocking his sons-in-law and sneaking out of Zoar with a stack of grog. Or do you think that Lot's sons-in-law wanted to have sex with the two blokes in Lot's house instead of with their future wives?
 

Authentic Nouveau

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““If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.” ...

Lev 20:13

Wicked requires punishment. No phobia involved.
God is on the throne.
 

Authentic Nouveau

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Jesus, however, said the S&G story was about inhospitality (Matt 11:24), and the story in Gen 18 says that it was about the number of righteous children.

And the story in Gen 19 has nothing whatsoever to do with homosexuality either and describes how Lot's sons-in-law wanted to know what the two strangers were up to in Lot's house, and how Lot then tried to pimp their future wives and sexually assaulted them after mocking his sons-in-law and sneaking out of Zoar with a stack of grog. Or do you think that Lot's sons-in-law wanted to have sex with the two blokes in Lot's house instead of with their future wives?
Your political spin fails.

Abrahm and Lot didn't read the Bible and knew of the wicked sodomit sins. God doesn't listen to satan.
The sodomites displayed their homosexuality abomination when they tried to attack and rape the guests.

Sodomites pretend Christians can't read the Bible. Fail satan!
 

J regia

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Your political spin fails.

Abrahm and Lot didn't read the Bible and knew of the wicked sodomit sins. God doesn't listen to satan.
The sodomites displayed their homosexuality abomination when they tried to attack and rape the guests.

Sodomites pretend Christians can't read the Bible. Fail satan!
Have you ever read that story? If so, where does the KJV or Hebrew bible say anything about homosexuality or that Lot's sons-in-law wanted to have sex with the two strangers in Lot's house instead of with their future wives, given that the story says that Lot's sons-in-law were outside Lot's house with the other men, women and children from the town?
 

J regia

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““If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.” ...

Lev 20:13

Wicked requires punishment. No phobia involved.
God is on the throne.
And do you think that women should be executed too if they have anal sex as described in Romans 1:26-27?
 

J regia

Well-known member
““If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them.” ...

Lev 20:13

Wicked requires punishment. No phobia involved.
God is on the throne.
And do you think that women should be executed too if they have anal sex as described in Romans 1:26-27?

And do you think that all remarried divorcees should be executed too because of their adulterous marriages (Lev 20:10 Mark 10:11-12)? Or should they just be tossed into the lake of fire unless they repent and remain celibate and cut off their members and throw them away (Matt 5:27-30)?
 

Harry Leggs

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And do you think that women should be executed too if they have anal sex as described in Romans 1:26-27?
Repent or perish. Jesus.

Luke 13:1-5.

Now on that very occasion there were some present who reported to Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had [a]mixed with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus responded and said to them, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans just because they have suffered this fate?

3 No, I tell you, but unless you [b]repent, you will all likewise perish.

4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem?

5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”
 

Authentic Nouveau

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But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly. Gen 13:13
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Sodom is not synonymous with homosexulaity. The whole story of Sodom and Gamorrah was never about homosexuals. It was sexual immorality and pervesion in general. If you read Jude 1:7 in several versions, it says fornication, strange flesh (beastiality), all sorts of sexual sins, perversions, and etc.

Not sure why some people single out homosexuality as the only sin of Sodom and Gamorrah. It did not single out the gay folks there. It singled out all the perverts and deviants in that two cities who were exceedingly wicked and foul.
You got that wrong in so many ways
Show us where God told Abraham and Lot it was not about Sodomites doing what they are famous for.
Sodomy is sexual immorality and perversion.

Why do Sodomite apologists think Christians can't read the Bible and examine context?

The word homosexual is a recent invention. Just like distorting scripture to justify the sodomites is a recent invention.

From my Professional secular Psych training, it is easy for me to understand who does it and why they push so hard to whitewash and shift the fire and brimstone event.

Genesis 19:5, NIV: "They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'"

HOMOSEXUAL assault
 

Electric Skeptic

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You got that wrong in so many ways
Show us where God told Abraham and Lot it was not about Sodomites doing what they are famous for.
Sodomy is sexual immorality and perversion.

Why do Sodomite apologists think Christians can't read the Bible and examine context?

The word homosexual is a recent invention. Just like distorting scripture to justify the sodomites is a recent invention.

From my Professional secular Psych training, it is easy for me to understand who does it and why they push so hard to whitewash and shift the fire and brimstone event.

Genesis 19:5, NIV: "They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'"

HOMOSEXUAL assault
Sorry, but the bible itself directly tells why Sodom was destroyed.

“Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. [50] “Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it.”
Ezekiel 16:49-50

Not a mention of homosexuality or homosexual acts. The rather vague "committed abominations" could mean that; it could also mean any of the other myriad things the bible calls abominations, like haughty eyes, a lying tongue, men wearing women's clothing, graven images, a false balance, and so forth.
 

J regia

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You got that wrong in so many ways
Show us where God told Abraham and Lot it was not about Sodomites doing what they are famous for.
Sodomy is sexual immorality and perversion.

Why do Sodomite apologists think Christians can't read the Bible and examine context?

The word homosexual is a recent invention. Just like distorting scripture to justify the sodomites is a recent invention.

From my Professional secular Psych training, it is easy for me to understand who does it and why they push so hard to whitewash and shift the fire and brimstone event.

Genesis 19:5, NIV: "They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'"

HOMOSEXUAL assault
WRONG WRONG WRONG. That's just a fake dishonest version. Where does the Hebrew bible or the KJV say that LOT'S SONS-IN-LAW wanted to have sex with the two blokes in Lot's house instead of with their future wives?

Or do you think that's why Lot mocked his sons-in-law (Gen 19:14), because he wanted to have sex with the two blokes he picked up down-town (Gen 19:2-3) as well as the future wives of his sons-in-law after he tried to pimp them (Gen 19:8)?
 
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J regia

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You got that wrong in so many ways
Show us where God told Abraham and Lot it was not about Sodomites doing what they are famous for.
Sodomy is sexual immorality and perversion.

Why do Sodomite apologists think Christians can't read the Bible and examine context?

The word homosexual is a recent invention. Just like distorting scripture to justify the sodomites is a recent invention.

From my Professional secular Psych training, it is easy for me to understand who does it and why they push so hard to whitewash and shift the fire and brimstone event.

Genesis 19:5, NIV: "They called to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.'"

HOMOSEXUAL assault
Have you ever actually read those stories? Is so, where does the story in Gen 18 say anything about sexual immorality and perversion when Abraham and his god shared a non-kosher meal together and had a face to face discussion about the number of righteous children in Gomorrah and Sodom before the god walked down to count them himself?
And why didn't the god tell Abraham that it was sexually immoral and perverted for him to have a sexual relationship with his sister Sarah and to commit adultery with Hagar? Or is biblical morality just man made, including the ten commandments, since they didn't apply to Abraham et al and their ancestors, and why it wasn't morally wrong for Cain(an) to kill his brother Abel or for Noah's father to kill a young man (Gen 4)?

Or do you think that "unrighteousness" is a synonym for "sexual immorality and perversion" in German?
Or did you just make that up as usual?
 
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