Types and Antitype

This thread is for discussing Biblical types of water immersion that point to the New Testament antitype that saves you as spoken of in 1 Peter 3:21.

Tupos is translated as type, example, figure, print, pattern, or form. It is the idea of the mold into which metal is poured to take shape as a solid object. Thus the tupos is not the object but shows what shape the object will have. Types have explanatory power, and indeed their purpose is to help us understand the antitype to which they point.

All types necessarily point to an antitype. The types that point to an antitype may be many, but they may only point to one antitype else meaning is lost. Also, types are not the thing they point to but have an aspect or aspects of it to help us better understand the antitype. For example, a lamb sacrifice is a type that points to Christ even though the lamb is not human, not deity, cannot sin (has no moral component), and cannot actually take away sin. It is an explanation tool despite its limitations and inferiority to the antitype.

In regard to the Old Testament type vs New Testament antitype, there are some other considerations that may not be true of all uses of the word tupos. All Old Testament types are partial and inferior to the antitype they point to. All Old Testament Types were fulfilled in the first century within the timeline of recorded history of the New Testament (that is, by the end of the first century AD).

I believe that understanding the type-antitype relationship and understanding the types that point to NT water immersion show the form, medium (element), and purpose of the one NT immersion (Eph. 4:4). I look forward to our discussion.

In Truth and Love.
 
The Flood

The first tupos of NT immersion is the Flood of Noah's day. It is the very tupos that Peter references in 1 Peter 3:20-21:

20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

In this tupos, eight souls (individuals) were saved by water. When we look back at Genesis 5-9 we see several things that teach us about the nature of the antitype.
  • Water is the element.
  • Water is completely immersive - it covered the whole planet, not just a portion.
  • Water destroyed the wicked.
  • Water saved those who were faithfully obedient to God's will.
  • When the world came up out of the water, only righteousness remained.
So when we look at the antitype we can see these things as well.

Romans 6:3-7
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Concerning NT immersion:
  • Water is the element (1 Peter 3:20-21 above).
  • It is a burial and thus completely immersive. (Romans 6:4)
  • It destroys the wicked (Romans 6:6)
  • Water immersion saves (1 Peter 3:21)
  • When we come up out of the water, only righteousness remains (Romans 6:4, 7)
There is certainly much more to these contexts that can be discussed. I'm just getting the conversation started with this portion.

In Truth and Love.
 
The Crossing of the Red Sea

The second tupos of NT immersion is when the Israelites crossed the Red Sea in Exodus 14. Here are some relevant texts to the event:
Exodus 14: 21-30
21 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. 22 And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left. 23 And the Egyptians pursued, and went in after them to the midst of the sea, even all Pharaoh's horses, his chariots, and his horsemen. 24 And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the Lord looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians, 25 And took off their chariot wheels, that they drave them heavily: so that the Egyptians said, Let us flee from the face of Israel; for the Lord fighteth for them against the Egyptians. 26 And the Lord said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand over the sea, that the waters may come again upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots, and upon their horsemen. 27 And Moses stretched forth his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to his strength when the morning appeared; and the Egyptians fled against it; and the Lord overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea. 28 And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them. 29 But the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea; and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left. 30 Thus the Lord saved Israel that day out of the hand of the Egyptians; and Israel saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea shore.
1 Corinthians 10:1-2
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;


In this tupos, an entire nation is saved by water. When we look back at Exodus 14 we see several things that teach us about the nature of the antitype.
  • Water is the element.
  • Water is completely immersive - it covered them on either side and above.
  • Water destroyed the wicked.
  • Water saved those who were faithfully obedient to God's will.
  • When they went down into the water they were slaves of sin.
  • When they came up out of the water they were no longer slaves but free.
  • When they came up out of the water, God made them His people.
In addition to the verses early on in Romans 6 that I quoted above, we can look at a few verses down in that same context:
Romans 6:16-18
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Concerning NT immersion:
  • Water is the element (1 Peter 3:21).
  • It is completely immersive - it covers us on all sides and above (Romans 6:4).
  • It destroys the wicked (Romans 6:6).
  • Water immersion saves (1 Peter 3:21).
  • When we go down into the water we were slaves of sin (Romans 6:17).
  • When we come up out of the water we are no longer slaves but free (Romans 6:17-18).
  • When we come up out of the water, God makes us part of His family (Gal. 3:26-4:7).
There are other types to discuss with different things to teach, but I will begin with these two most obvious ones.

In Truth and Love.
 

travelah

Active member
You are suggesting that it is water immersion that saves and not faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Perhaps you mean to say faith plus water. Is there anything else you would add to water?
 
You are suggesting that it is water immersion that saves and not faith in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Perhaps you mean to say faith plus water. Is there anything else you would add to water?
I am really focusing on the type-antitype relationship. The water itself doesn't actually do anything. It's just matter. Even faith doesn't actually do the saving. It's just the conduit through which grace operates. I don't believe the Bible says anything alone saves. I believe there are many things involved. Grace is the causal force that saves, obedient faith is the conduit that saves. Obedient faith includes understanding and accepting Jesus Christ as savior and the truth of God's Word, i.e. accepting the gospel truth, confessing our faith in Christ before others, repenting of our sins and turning towards God, and being immersed in water into Christ for the purpose of having our sins remitted/washed away. Even faithfulness afterwards has a part in salvation. But the water is just one part even though its the point we come into contact with the blood and are reborn. I hope that is the kind of answer you were looking for.
 

UncleAbee

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I don't believe the Bible says anything alone saves. I believe there are many things involved.
I 100% agree with your statement. The bible says that many things are involved in salvation. Paul thought this as well. For him salvation is a process and a future event. It doesn't actually occur until Jesus comes.
 
I 100% agree with your statement. The bible says that many things are involved in salvation. Paul thought this as well. For him salvation is a process and a future event. It doesn't actually occur until Jesus comes.
I believe it happens immediately at immersion in water into Christ. There is more to the concept, surely, but its real and actual at the time of immersion. Part of the contention is usually defining terms. What does salvation mean? What are we saved from? How are we saved? What causes salvation? Once we define what we mean by "salvation" then we can better understand one another when we talk about salvation. 😁
 
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