Unique Doctrines to Adventist Church ONLY ???

JonHawk

Active member
His earth is in the other world

as are His saints…

this earth is a different earth
a corruption
So where does that leave you Eve?

He shall pray to God, and He will delight in him, He shall see His face with joy, For He restores to man His righteousness. Job 33:26
 

JonHawk

Active member
consider that, given what you wrote,

He did not make this world.

it is the sin realm.
His souls will be restored
to their original nature soon

soon..
The earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell therein.

Who may ascend into the hill of the Lord?
Or who may stand in His holy place?
4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
Who has not lifted up his soul to an idol,
Nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive blessing from the Lord,
And righteousness from the God of his salvation.
6 This is Jacob, the generation of those who seek Him,
Who seek Your face. Selah
7 Lift up your heads, O you gates!
And be lifted up, you everlasting doors!
And the King of glory shall come in. Ps 24
 

Victor

Active member
Unique Doctrines to Adventist Church ONLY ???
The Investigative Judgment doctrine is exclusive to the SDA church. Wikipedia has this to describe it:

The investigative judgment, the pre-Advent Judgment, (or, more accurately the pre-Second Advent Judgment) is a unique Seventh-day Adventist doctrine, which asserts that the divine judgment of professed Christians has been in progress since 1844. It is intimately related to the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and was described by one of the church's pioneers Ellen G. White as one of the pillars of Adventist belief. It is a major component of the broader Adventist understanding of the "heavenly sanctuary", and the two are sometimes spoken of interchangeably.
 

e v e

Super Member
The earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness, The world and those who dwell therein.

Who may ascend into the hill of the Lord?
Or who may stand in His holy place?
4 He who has clean hands and a pure heart,
Who has not lifted up his soul to an idol,
Nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive blessing from the Lord,
And righteousness from the God of his salvation.
6 This is Jacob, the generation of those who seek Him,
Who seek Your face. Selah
7 Lift up your heads, O you gates!
And be lifted up, you everlasting doors!
And the King of glory shall come in. Ps 24
there earth in the other world is eden,
God's Creation.
 

JonHawk

Active member
there earth in the other world is eden,
God's Creation.
When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the earth. Psalm 104:30-31
Blessed be His glorious name forever! And let the whole earth be filled with His glory. Amen and Amen. Psalm 72:19
 

Buzzard

Well-known member
ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!

Please PM me if you do not know how to place a poster on ignore. It is easy.
Faith commeth by hearing,
and hearing by the word of God



Why put anyone on Ignore;
I for one love Michael's post
he is a prime example of those that God has closed their Ears and Eyes
to the truth;

cannot he that made the Ear cause it to hear;
cannot he that made the eyes

give sight to the blind????

Hopefully soon God will say
"Let Michael Hear and See"

until God says;
"Let Michael Hear and See"

there is no hope for him
 

John t

Super Member
there is no hope for him

Personal sanity is a good reason,. o_O

Besides that, You seem to object to my advice to another poster. If it works for him, then good. You can accept or reject the advice to him; your choice, as it is also his.
 
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Common Tater

Active member
Unique Doctrines to Adventist Church ONLY ???

Take your best shot for discussions.

I am looking for your understanding(and awareness) of doctrines, across the spectrum of all churches.

Yours in Christ, Michael
We all know that the Investigative Judgement, the judgement of whether those who profess to be followers of Christ deserve eternal life based upon their works, is unique to Adventism.

EGW taught that Moses was resurrected and taken to heaven. She also taught that Enoch and Elijah were translated and taken to heaven. She also taught that Jesus could have failed in his mission.

Now, if the books were never opened until October 22, 1844, what would have happened if Moses, Enoch, or Elijah were judged to have come up short? And if Christ were to have failed, how could they remain in heaven if it is Christ's righteousness that makes salvation possible? It seems to be that Moses, Enoch, and Elijah would have had to live sinless lives in order to remain in heaven, should Christ have failed. That, or Christ's death on the cross was actually unnecessary for salvation. Please explain.
 

e v e

Super Member
it just means that whatever she saw was probably shown by supernatural yet fallen angels…. therefore it was not reliable. she fell to their temptation because such attention affects the ego.


humans are impressed by the supernatural.
 

John t

Super Member
it just means that whatever she saw was probably shown by supernatural yet fallen angels…. therefore it was not reliable. she fell to their temptation because such attention affects the ego.
Those defending Ellen gloss over her significant medical issues, all caused from being hit on the head by a rock. I believe she was 9.

From that, she was in a coma for several weeks before she woke. Such an injury would be called today TBI, Traumatic Brain Injury. She never recovered from the aftermath. Do a web search on the results of TBI on the frontal lobe, and you will see I am not making this stuff up; iit is very tragic.

Her physician diagnosed her as having catalepsy, which is a form of schizophrenia. Each of her "visions " came as she was in a state of a cataleptic episode, and uniformly, they conform to the sorts of visions that TBI cataleptic patients have.

Thus her medical condition does lend credence to demonic influence. but that does not excuse her followers today, and Millerites from making an idol of her.
humans are impressed by the supernatural.

It is called a lack of discernment, but it goes much further. As can be seen in the postings of the Millerites here, there is a total spiritual blindness in those "Acolytes of Ellen". That goes hand-in-hand with the many ad hominems which some gleefully throw as if they were scrapings from the barn floor.

What I am saying is that somehow there is a spiritual transference of the TBI of Ellen to her present-day followers, and that is one reason they post as they do.
 

SDAchristian

Well-known member
Prologue: I will break up this post in several replies. So please be patience, as I response.

AV Hb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

We are NOT discussing judgment after death, but judgement of the living before Jesus' second advent.

AV Jn 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.
We all know that the Investigative Judgement, the judgement of whether those who profess to be followers of Christ deserve eternal life based upon their works, is unique to Adventism.
{Additional Emphasis by SDAchristian}
AV Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity{G458 anomia}.

Does unrepented "work iniquity{G458 anomia}" affect a living person's eternal life per Jesus, and Jesus' decision of eternal life for them ???

"the judgement of whether those who profess to be followers of Christ deserve eternal life based upon their works, is unique to Adventism.", Is NOT UNIQUE to Jesus' judgement !!! Therefore it is NOT UNIQUE to Christians, to Jesus' followers who understand.

May the understanding of all Christians, do not make Jesus a liar, by their understanding of the phases of judgements by GOD !!!

Yours in Christ, Michael
 

Formersda

Active member
Prologue: I will break up this post in several replies. So please be patience, as I response.

AV Hb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

We are NOT discussing judgment after death, but judgement of the living before Jesus' second advent.

AV Jn 10:27-28 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.

AV Mt 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity{G458 anomia}.

Does unrepented "work iniquity{G458 anomia}" affect a living person's eternal life per Jesus, and Jesus' decision of eternal life for them ???

"the judgement of whether those who profess to be followers of Christ deserve eternal life based upon their works, is unique to Adventism.", Is NOT UNIQUE to Jesus' judgement !!! Therefore it is NOT UNIQUE to Christians, to Jesus' followers who understand.

May the understanding of all Christians, do not make Jesus a liar, by their understanding of the phases of judgements by GOD !!!

Yours in Christ, Michael
Another load of proof texts Michael no one can understand what you say by using a load of proof texts.
you cannot discuss with you whilst you use non connecting verses to “prove“ something anyone can do that
 
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