Vatican Cardinal says "Theology of the Church has changed"

[Nondenom40]

We do not need DeLorean's with Flux Capacitors that we have to make sure to get the DeLorean up to 88 MPH to generate the necessarily 1.21 Jiggawatts of power to go back in time.

We have a God who is timeless. We have a God who owns time. We have a God who can and does sacramentally make past realties present to us in the Mass.

Just throw 'sacrament' or 'sacramentally' in there and poof anything is possible. Sorry RPO you aren't cascaded away anywhere but your pew with a false priest holding up a false god you worship.

 

[Atemi]

We have a God who can and does sacramentally make past realties present to us in the Mass.

Sacramentally is not a word and is not a mechanism. It is jibberish.

God nowhere says He does what you claim He does. That is why you have to pretend He does so.

 

[Atemi]

Just throw 'sacrament' or 'sacramentally' in there and poof anything is possible.

It's their cover all word to explain away all the nonsense they pretend and make up.

 

[Stella1000]

"Now it is evident, that in this prophecy[allusion is made] to the bread which our Christ gave us to eat, in remembrance of His being made flesh for the sake of His believers, for whom also He suffered; and to the cup which He gave us to drink, in remembrance of His own blood, with giving of thanks.”
chapter 70

Justin explicitly stated that bread (not the flesh) is given by Christ in remembrance of His flesh, and that the cup is in remembrance of – not is – His own blood. If Justin believed in transubstantiation i.e. the real presence, he would have certainly stated it here, instead he refutes it.

Justin on the contrary, affirms the power of the blessed bread and wine and definitively connects it with our salvation. Why would we bother using bread and wine in the manner Jesus taught, if it was nothing more than symbolic? That is the most glaring question to me but it also explains to me why the majority of professing nonCC's don't participate in the formula at all.

 

[Atemi]

Justin on the contrary, affirms the power of the blessed bread and wine and definitively connects it with our salvation.

That is meaningless.

The Catholic Church teaches that you can be saved if you never even ate a Catholic Eucharist.
The Catholic Church also teaches that one can eat tons of Catholic Eucharists, and still not be saved.
The Catholic Church teaches you must be in a "state of grace" to even receive it in the first place.

So "connects it to our salvation" is an utterly worthless claim. It means nothing in your own sect.

 

[balshan]

The disagreement is probably concerning is the blessed bread 'uncommon' by human decree or 'uncommon' by the miracle of God.

Prove their is a miracle that has occurred?

 

[Grace]

Most nonCC's on here though are very malicious towards Catholic belief in the Eucharist.

Most nonCC's on here though are very malicious towards Catholic belief in the Eucharist.

Malicious? No one is more malicious toward Christians than Catholics. Rejecting the false teaching of the Catholic church isn't an act of maliciousness. It's an act of integrity.

 

[balshan]

Malicious? No one is more malicious toward Christians than Catholics. Rejecting the false teaching of the Catholic church isn't an act of maliciousness. It's an act of integrity.

Well said

 

[Arch Stanton]

Malicious? No one is more malicious toward Christians than Catholics. Rejecting the false teaching of the Catholic church isn't an act of maliciousness. It's an act of integrity.

False teachers like Luther, Knox, Zwingli, Calvin, etc.

Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be infants, tossed by waves and swept along by every wind of teaching arising from human trickery, from their cunning in the interests of deceitful scheming.

 

[balshan]

False teachers like Luther, Knox, Zwingli, Calvin, etc.

Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be infants, tossed by waves and swept along by every wind of teaching arising from human trickery, from their cunning in the interests of deceitful scheming.

Your institution is full of false teachers and they are full of trickery and they lie. Luther, Knox etc were being lead by the HS. It is amazing that RCs will attack others and not attack the evil fruit and practices of their own institution which clearly follows the father of lies. It is RCC that is swept along by ever wind, it is RCs who quote ECFs and then reject them when they don't like what they say. It is the RCC who gets its false doctrines from fraudulent books, it is RCs who quote philosophies, natural law etc to support their false beliefs. This is because they do NOT come or even align with scripture, or what Jesus and the apostles taught. They do not follow what Jesus and the apostles did.