Wage theft

Truther

Well-known member
They have both corporations and middle class.

You claimed that if you got rid of the super-rich, you would lose the middle class. The fact that all of those countries still have a robust middle class despite a tax rate that has basically abolished extreme wealth proves you wrong.

Psst: it helps if you remember what you posted before you respond. If you've forgotten, just click on the little up-arrow to see what you said before.

Or just don't post lies. That's always a good strategy.
Should the government install "corporations" with elected politicians like the former USSR?

You would rather the govt control the money than the private sector?

Do you have a govt job?
 

Truther

Well-known member
Just a list with no proof.
Actually, those that claim successful socialist countries have no rich corporations at the top are being fooled by false rhetoric.

They are private sector run with high tax and spend situations, like Canada and Denmark etc.

Real deal socialism was the former USSR and current Venezuela etc.

The latter is the end result of the nanny state.
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
Should the government install "corporations" with elected politicians like the former USSR?

You would rather the govt control the money than the private sector?

Do you have a govt job?
Very early when visitors got a peak into farming in Russia before the wall came down, some got permission to visit Russia and tour a COLLECTIVE farm,

Farmers were permitted to have small garden plots to feed their family.
So a worker gets up in the morning, hauls a load of fertilizer and dumps it in the ditch. Goes home, fills out pages of paperwork and is into vodka before noon. The average farm produced 10,000 pages of paperwork a year. Crops, not so much.

NO incentive for getting a great crop every year.
 

Truther

Well-known member
Very early when visitors got a peak into farming in Russia before the wall came down, some got permission to visit Russia and tour a COLLECTIVE farm,

Farmers were permitted to have small garden plots to feed their family.
So a worker gets up in the morning, hauls a load of fertilizer and dumps it in the ditch. Goes home, fills out pages of paperwork and is into vodka before noon. The average farm produced 10,000 pages of paperwork a year. Crops, not so much.

NO incentive for getting a great crop every year.
Yep. Back in those days my sister’s boyfriend owned a high tech firm in Silicon Valley. He told me he went to Russia on a trip to expand. Big warehouses with dim fluorescent light like in gangster movies instead of modern facilities. He backed out fast
 

Authentic Nouveau

Well-known member
Yep. Back in those days my sister’s boyfriend owned a high tech firm in Silicon Valley. He told me he went to Russia on a trip to expand. Big warehouses with dim fluorescent light like in gangster movies instead of modern facilities. He backed out fast
Perfect contrast
Silicon valley, get a promotion and a bigger office and a bed so you can work 17 hours. In Communism, no motivation to work 7 hours.
 

glenlogie

Well-known member
I was correcting the post above.

And China is certainly not an economic basket case.
I did not mention China. The topic was about economic disasters, and you mentioned Cuba being majority Catholic as if that had any indicator of their economic situation
 

Authentic Nouveau

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I was correcting the post above.

And China is certainly not an economic basket case.
Not since your atheeist Bros opened up to Western capitalism.

Not since God Bless America is 25% of the Planet's GDP and we are atheist/commie/Chiner's sugar daddy because we buy more bling bling than we produce.
 

Yakuda

Well-known member
I did not mention China. The topic was about economic disasters, and you mentioned Cuba being majority Catholic as if that had any indicator of their economic situation
It doesnt matter what you mention, the left responds to the voices in their heads not what other people say or write.
 

HillsboroMom

Active member
You are totally clueless about my background and you assume way too much.
You are correct that I am totally clueless about your background.

Do I assume too much? Perhaps.

I assumed your lack of knowledge about the basic definitions of "corporation" vs. "company" was due to a lack of higher education in the US on those rather specific terms.

I prefer to believe a person's lack of knowledge is due to lack of opportunity in education, rather than assuming that they are stupid, or incapable of understanding. I still believe that.

I fail to see how this makes me the bad person.

I lack knowledge about your background. If you inform me that you are an astronaut, or a brain surgeon, or a carpenter, or a dog-walker, or an elephant trainer, or whatever job you have for any letter of the alphabet, that is not an insult to me. It is simply you providing to me some information that I lack. I would not feel in the least bit insulted by it. Even if you were to say it in a snide way.

Again, if you feel personally insulted by me providing you with definitions, that is on you, not me.

Are you telling me you never make typos?
No, heavens, I make typos all the time.

What I'm saying is that I don't know what word it was supposed to be.

If I write, "I went to the stire today," you could probably parse that I meant "store" instead of "stire."

If I write, "I went to the dyptr today," you would probably say, "I have no idea what you're saying to me." Again, you're not insulting me for making a typo. You're communicating to me that what I wrote was completely incomprehensible. And rightly so. The word "dyptr" doesn't look anything like "store." Now, if you were really, really smart, you might notice that it's exactly one letter shifted on the keyboard from "store," but I wouldn't expect ANYONE to notice that. You would totally 100% be within your rights to say that what I types was completely unintelligible.

I have said four times now that I couldn't figure out what your sentence meant. I wasn't making fun of you for making a typo. I was simply asking you what you meant. I made a few guesses, but none of my guesses made any sense, either. Rather than tell me what you actually meant, you hedged and hawed and accused me of insulting you. Which leads me to think maybe you don't even know what you said. On any other public board I would think maybe you were drunk when you typed it, but I don't think that would be true in this case. Is there some other reason you are unwilling or unable to tell me what you meant in that sentence?

Theses forums are open to registered posters, and as far as I know, you have zero authority here.
I've never pretended otherwise. In fact, you have more authority than I do, because the PTB of this board have decided that I am not a Christian, according to their definition, so my posts are given a higher level of scrutiny than those of evangelicals.

But either way, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
 

HillsboroMom

Active member
Should the government install "corporations" with elected politicians like the former USSR?
I don't think that's necessary, and I don't think the US would ever do that, but it's one option.

You would rather the govt control the money than the private sector?
Actually, yes. I support a central bank.

Do you have a govt job?
I have a few part-time jobs, and one of them is for the state of Oregon, so yes. I also work for a non-government corporation, and I work for myself (self-employment).

Why do you ask?
 

Truther

Well-known member
I don't think that's necessary, and I don't think the US would ever do that, but it's one option.


Actually, yes. I support a central bank.


I have a few part-time jobs, and one of them is for the state of Oregon, so yes. I also work for a non-government corporation, and I work for myself (self-employment).

Why do you ask?
You support a central bank that no man may buy or sell without it's participation?
 

HillsboroMom

Active member
A central bank is a govt bank.
All banks are government banks. They must follow significant rules, such as FDIC and other mandates.


They would not allow buying or selling outside of it.
Whenever you buy or sell something, in any country on this planet, using that country's currency, you are doing so within that government's rules, by agreeing on the value of the currency you're using.

The only time you get outside of this is when you trade. For example, you give me a car in exchange for a horse. Or a book for a shirt. Or if I agree to provide a service in exchange for another service. And in the US, the law states that you must include that as income, which means the government does control it.

You may not like it, but that is how it has been for over 100 years. And I'm not thrilled with it, but I do understand the necessity of the law.
 
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