Thats right and even the punctuation wasn't edited in until about 400 years ago. And some of that editing changes the meanings of some passages completely.rules regarding upper and lower case words don't apply to the Bible.
Thats right and even the punctuation wasn't edited in until about 400 years ago. And some of that editing changes the meanings of some passages completely.rules regarding upper and lower case words don't apply to the Bible.
Peter was an original apostle, his words carry more weight than Paul's.
If one took out everything in the book except what was quoted of Jesus and what he taught we should be like him in the Father, you would have a whole different outlook on the purpose for God in man if you know only that what Jesus said and taught by example.if you throw out paul, then you threw away all scripture and may as well join/be in a different religion…
paul tells what he learned from God. Paul had access to God. The apostles had access to God. They were not ‘authors’ writing down their own ideas.
Just as with the prophets God spoke to them.
only by throwing out scriptureIf one took out everything in the book except what was quoted of Jesus and what he taught we should be like him in the Father, you would have a whole different outlook on the purpose for God in man if you know only that what Jesus said and taught by example.
All of these who wrote in the Bible had their own experiences with God and wrote their experiences through their experiences. People such as Paul was like any other preacher today adding in his own opinions based upon his own experiences which most of the time is very limited to God actual purpose fo r man to be like Him. But because of the laws such as those Paul impimimnted, a whole lat more people follow Paul as a sinner that he preached we are then to be the righteousness of God to be like Him as Jesus taught, perfect, holy, ore and without sin.
If ones experience with God isn't the same as the experience Jesus had with God and walk in the same standards of Christ that Jesus did, then you are taking the opinions of those who wrote their own instead of Jesus who had his own.
Ironic is, Jesus comes to the last point in his efforts to get people saved by God and mad the most profound statement in the whole bible, that in that day ye shall ask me noting but go to the Father for yourself and He will give it you. How many actually have reached that end? How many actually have that same communication with God that Jesus had and walk as He walks, same mind, same God be in you who was in Christ Jesus? Not very many are like Him as He demands of us are they?
Not many hear Him as Jesus described you would in that do they? And in that inability to communicate with God themselves corrupt Jesus intent to be like the Father yourself. Paul was master at diverting people to his beliefs away from Christ to be like the Father and anointed of Him to hear from Him yourself as Jesus did.
How do you know you have reached that end? Compare yourself with the example God sent for us to follow and be like, if there is anything in you that is different from Jesus then you do not follow the way of Jesus at all.
All you have to do is read what they wrote of their own experiences to see what they believed. We have the very same thing in this forum, everyone here writes about their experiences do they not? DO not you do the same, do not I do the same?only by throwing out scripture
by claiming the words of prophets and apostles are not from Him,
that apostles and prophets were just
authors of their own opinions
can you come up with your theology.
See bold.
if you throw out paul, then you threw away all scripture
And Paul didn’t put anything in scripture. A King who assembled a bunch of men came together and decided what goes into the book of laws and what doesn’t and authorized it by a king that didn’t even believe in God lol. And to top it off said God inspire him. Lol.no. because Paul didn't write all scripture.
As the author of 13 of the 27 books in the New Testament, Paul is arguably the most influential apostle in Christianity. Interestingly, Paul never met Jesus when the latter lived on earth. He also has a history of viciously persecuting the followers of Jesus. It was only after an alleged encounter with Jesus during a journey that Paul changed his ways and started proclaiming himself as an apostle of Jesus. Whether or not Paul was speaking the truth is a separate matter and will be addressed in later videos, God willing. But in this video we will examine if it was even possible for there to be a 13th apostle.
According to the gospel account, there were 12 apostles. After Judas killed himself, 2 candidates were shortlisted to be the replacement for Judas. They were Matthias and Barsabbas. Peter prayed and cast lots. The lot fell on Matthias, who then joined the disciples. This account appears in Acts 1:12-26. Note that the number of Apostles was fixed at 12. Peter did not enlist both Matthias and Barsabbas because there was no room for a 13th apostle.
Peter’s criteria for selecting an apostle was that candidates had to have been with them since the time Jesus was baptised.
"Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection” (Acts 1:20-22)
Thus, the criteria that an apostle candidate had to meet was that he should have been with the apostles from the time of the baptism of Jesus until the time of Jesus' ascension. Peter was simply following what he heard from Jesus. In John 15, Jesus said the following:
He said to them: “You also will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning” (John 15:27)
Furthermore, Jesus said there are only 12 apostles.
“Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of his glory, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel” (Matthew 19:28)
The book of Revelation also says there are only 12 apostles.
“And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God… The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb” (Revelation 21:10, 14)
As we have seen, twelve thrones, twelve tribes, twelve foundations and twelve apostles. The number of apostles was fixed at 12.
If Paul was indeed a true apostle, then there would have been 13 thrones and 13 foundations with the names of the 13 apostles (that is, the original 11, Matthias and Paul). We have no reason to think Paul was among the 12, as Judas was replaced by Matthias long before Paul’s conversion. If it was even possible for there to be a 13th apostle, Peter would have selected both Matthias and Barsabbas instead of drawing lots to choose one of them.
Since there could have only been 12 apostles, Paul simply could not have been an apostle.
Not all... only about 85% of all the NT. No big deal. Even more if you throw out the works of Luke.no. because Paul didn't write all scripture.
Peter while yet without the Holy Spirit yet to guide him, decided it was good to replace Judas when he wanted to see a replacement.
Jesus was a man just as you and I and I am no different from he was in the Father. Evidently you are different from Him for He sent Jesus to show you what it is to be in Him as Jesus was in Him. See Jesus prayer to his God for you to be in John 17. And dont be ignorant and tell me Jesus prayed to himself for you.- Nobody truly believes that "The Bible means exactly what it says."
ssssss FYI, John 1:1-18 & 8:58, and Isaiah 9:6 & Heb.1:1-8 are GOD's scriptures and NOT my imagination That's right these passages aren't your imaginations. So why can't you distinguish between what a text actually says and your imaginations? as PROOF that CLEARLY rebukes ( 2 Tim.3:16 )...forums.carm.org
I am not the proper recipient of prayer.Jesus was a man just as you and I
Ok, I understand' Jesus didn't pray to his God for you, but he did me. And guess what, God answered his prayer for me that I be like Him.I am not the proper recipient of prayer.
The Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer.
Big diffeence.
Ok, I understand' Jesus didn't pray to his God for you, but he did me. And guess what, God answered his prayer for me that I be like Him.
As the author of 13 of the 27 books in the New Testament, Paul is arguably the most influential apostle in Christianity.
Interestingly, Paul never met Jesus when the latter lived on earth.
He also has a history of viciously persecuting the followers of Jesus. It was only after an alleged encounter with Jesus during a journey that Paul changed his ways and started proclaiming himself as an apostle of Jesus.
Whether or not Paul was speaking the truth is a separate matter and will be addressed in later videos, God willing. But in this video we will examine if it was even possible for there to be a 13th apostle.
According to the gospel account, there were 12 apostles. After Judas killed himself, 2 candidates were shortlisted to be the replacement for Judas. They were Matthias and Barsabbas. Peter prayed and cast lots. The lot fell on Matthias, who then joined the disciples. This account appears in Acts 1:12-26.
As we have seen, twelve thrones, twelve tribes, twelve foundations and twelve apostles. The number of apostles was fixed at 12.
If Paul was indeed a true apostle, then there would have been 13 thrones and 13 foundations with the names of the 13 apostles
(that is, the original 11, Matthias and Paul). We have no reason to think Paul was among the 12,
as Judas was replaced by Matthias long before Paul’s conversion.
Since there could have only been 12 apostles, Paul simply could not have been an apostle.
We have no reason to think Matthias was among the Twelve.
Peter made a decision before he was EMPOWERED to be an apostle. That would not come till Pentecost when they received the power from the Holy Spirit.