Were there some myths in the past that were found to be true once evidence came out to prove it but wasnt believed by many at first?

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john james

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Were there some myths in the past that were found to be true once evidence came out to prove it but wasnt believed by many at first because some didn't have the evidence or believe the evidence that was given?

If there was, does that question the thought that some may not know as much as they think?

Could it be the universe and somethings are too big for humanity to know yet but may find out in the future?
 
Temujin

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john james said:
Were there some myths in the past that were found to be true once evidence came out to prove it but wasnt believed by many at first because some didn't have the evidence or believe the evidence that was given?

If there was, does that question the thought that some may not know as much as they think?

Could it be the universe and somethings are too big for humanity to know yet but may find out in the future?
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Can't think of any off hand. Can you?
 
Temujin

Temujin

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john james said:
How about the world is round when many at the time were convinced it was flat
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The ancient Greeks proved that the earth was a sphere and even measured its size fairly accurately. A scientific observation that is forgotten or, ignored doesn't really fit your OP.
 
Whateverman

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john james said:
Were there some myths in the past that were found to be true once evidence came out to prove it but wasnt believed by many at first because some didn't have the evidence or believe the evidence that was given?
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I think the problem here is your use of the word "myth". A myth is generally thought to be something that people used to believe was true, but then was found to be false. So, your OP then becomes "are there things we thought were true, but then we believed were false, but then we found them to be true". I can't think of anything like that, though maybe a historian would correct me on this.

john james said:
If there was, does that question the thought that some may not know as much as they think?

Could it be the universe and somethings are too big for humanity to know yet but may find out in the future?
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You don't need to jump through rhetorical hoops here. Yes, there are things we don't know - and there are things we think we know, but really don't.

I'm pretty sure almost everybody on the planet agrees with this :)
 
Electric Skeptic

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john james said:
Were there some myths in the past that were found to be true once evidence came out to prove it but wasnt believed by many at first because some didn't have the evidence or believe the evidence that was given?
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Troy springs to mind as the obvious example.
john james said:
If there was, does that question the thought that some may not know as much as they think?
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Of course they may not. That's always been the case, always will.
john james said:
Could it be the universe and somethings are too big for humanity to know yet but may find out in the future?
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Of course.

But none of that means that we should believe things that aren't evidenced just because they may someday be evidenced. It remains the case that to believe something without adequate supporting evidence is a sign of mental illness.
 
Mr Laurier

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john james said:
Were there some myths in the past that were found to be true once evidence came out to prove it but wasnt believed by many at first because some didn't have the evidence or believe the evidence that was given?

If there was, does that question the thought that some may not know as much as they think?

Could it be the universe and somethings are too big for humanity to know yet but may find out in the future?
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The Trojan war.
The roots of the Aztec nation.
 
Michael R2

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Electric Skeptic said:
Troy springs to mind as the obvious example.
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I'm not so sure this qualifies. The Trojan war, as presented in the Iliad is a myth. Troy itself may have been considered a myth, but a site was found that fit the geographical requirements we now call Troy. Whether this is true or not is up for debate.
Electric Skeptic said:
Of course they may not. That's always been the case, always will.

Of course.

But none of that means that we should believe things that aren't evidenced just because they may someday be evidenced. It remains the case that to believe something without adequate supporting evidence is a sign of mental illness.
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Usually when it comes to myths and legends, there is always some truth to them but they are then greatly exagerated. Its like the newspapers and yellow Journalism. To make the story more appealing to its targetted audience.

But MANY theories are later proven to be factual. MANY, and some not.

Yes they used to think the world was flat(some people still do).lol When Galileo challenged the "belief" he was sent to prison. Belief is a very powerful tjhing and the powers that be have a monopoly on it.....They dont want anyone thinking out side the"truth' they indoctrinate the people with. Ahem"covid"
 
Electric Skeptic

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wiseones2cents said:
Usually when it comes to myths and legends, there is always some truth to them but they are then greatly exagerated. Its like the newspapers and yellow Journalism. To make the story more appealing to its targetted audience.

But MANY theories are later proven to be factual. MANY, and some not.

Yes they used to think the world was flat(some people still do).lol When Galileo challenged the "belief" he was sent to prison. Belief is a very powerful tjhing and the powers that be have a monopoly on it.....They dont want anyone thinking out side the"truth' they indoctrinate the people with. Ahem"covid"
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Partly true, but the implication that COVID is a hoax is idiotic.
 
Whateverman

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john james said:

New CDC report says 94% of COVID deaths had underlying conditions, only 6% died from COVID alone​


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New CDC report says 94% of COVID deaths had underlying conditions, only 6% died from COVID alone

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has issued a new report detailing how many COVID-19 deaths in America also involved other underlying health conditions.
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This is old news, JJ. If a person has diabetes, is overweight, and gets hit by a bus while crossing the street, the bus killed them; not the diabetes and obesity.

Everyone on the planet - you, me, every Christian or atheist, every Republican or Democrat, etc - recognizes that the word "cause" means "proximate cause".

When you want to find out why your car wont start, the "cause" is the thing which most-recently and most-directly caused it to not start. If you drive it for 30,000 miles without changing the oil, and then because of this, it lacks the acceleration to get off a railroad crossing before being crushed by a train, the train caused your car to not being able to start. Not the lack of oil changes.

All medicine is like this. All engineering is like this. All science is like this. All people know that if you murder someone with a knife, the cause of that person's death was you killing them with a knife; it wasn't your parents who beat you as a child, which caused you to grow up and be violently aggressive. Towards others.

COVID-45 was the proximate cause of the deaths of 340,000 Americans. Doctors know this, scientists know this, and medical professionals know this. Why don't you?
 
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Whateverman said:
This is old news, JJ. If a person has diabetes, is overweight, and gets hit by a bus while crossing the street, the bus killed them; not the diabetes and obesity.
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If a person is in a long Term care home on their death bed, did they die of old age complications or Corona? The person was going to die anyways, even without the covid.

Pnemonia and the Flu also kill millions every year, but it is NOT the primary cause of death. It was just the final nails in the coffin.

Hospitals are getting paid to exagerate the numbers, thus the lies. Ahhh capitalism..........
 
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wiseones2cents

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Its more like a person has diabetes, is overweight, and contracts covid, gets hit by a bus while crossing the street and dies. Cause of death? Covid.lol
 
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