I am interested in truth. Some of your truth doesn't make sense to me.
Okay. Is the truth able to be known to you outside of or without a believing mind?
I am interested in truth. Some of your truth doesn't make sense to me.
Lol. That's a really silly question. Obviously the answer is no.Okay. Is the truth able to be known to you outside of or without a believing mind?
Lol. That's a really silly question. Obviously the answer is no.
I wonder what utter nonsense you will try to infer from that answer.
Evasion.
If it is true that the truth can't be known to you outside of or without a believing mind, then does this infer anything about the truth and a believing mind?
How is it evasion when I provided an answer to your question?
Are we going to have to add the word evasion to the list of words that you clearly don't know the meaning of?
You are trying to evade the truth.
More strawmanning. Evade means to try to 'escape or avoid, especially by cleverness or trickery'.
No.Does it infer belief must occur before the truth is known to you?
Which truth? Remember to be specific.
Where in my reply did I:
1) Build an incorrect version of your argument and then argue against that? Remember to be specific.
2) I gave you a specific answer to your question, so please point where I attempted to avoid answering your question? Remember to be specific.
Are we going to have to add the word evasion to the list of words that you clearly don't know the meaning of?
More strawmanning. Evade means to try to 'escape or avoid, especially by cleverness or trickery'.
By your own words, you prove me right: you're interested in something other than the truth in-and-of itselfNot true. I am interested in how and why the truth and reality is known to us.Actually, the real problem is that you're only interested in declaring your opinions as truth, and then ignoring everything which calls them into question.
You're the one not interested in the truth in-and-of itself.
By your own words, you prove me right: you're interested in something other than the truth in-and-of itself
Thank you.
So, you should believe every possibility to make sure you believe in the ones that actually correspond to reality?If you don't even know that you have to believe before the truth and reality is known to you, then you obviously don't know what makes she truth and reality known to you.
So, you should believe every possibility to make sure you believe in the ones that actually correspond to reality?
Strawman.Strawman.
Okay. Let us at least look at something that the both of us believe is a real belief in reality; 'Trump was president in 2019'.
Now, doesn't this belief "actually correspond to reality"?
It is illogical to say the word "belief" without that 'belief" 'corresponding to reality'.
Strawman.
Strawman.So, you just want to talk about "false beliefs" and not real beliefs in reality then?
You're the one not interested in the truth in-and-of itself.If you don't even know that you have to believe before the truth and reality is known to you, then you obviously don't know what makes she truth and reality known to you.
Strawman.
But belief in reality doesn't make the truth and reality known to you, facts and evidence do that.If a belief in reality is necessary in order to make the truth and reality known to you,
It's possible to have false beliefs.It is illogical and dishonest to say the word "belief" without that 'belief" denoting and 'corresponding to reality'.
Actually, it is illogical and dishonest to say the word "belief" always correlates-with and corresponds-to reality.It is illogical and dishonest to say the word "belief" without that 'belief" denoting and 'corresponding to reality'.
Not quite everyone apparently...Actually, it is illogical and dishonest to say the word "belief" always correlates-with and corresponds-to reality.
No dictionary ever says this. That's because everyone knows real beliefs can be false.
But belief in reality doesn't make the truth and reality known to you, facts and evidence do that.
It's possible to have false beliefs.