And yet, you say we disagree? There seems to be a lot of agreement on points which you claim we disagree.Uh, yep. That's what makes it a works-based theology.
That's the point.
Again, that's the point.
It's really come to which term to use "works-based" or "faith based".
That doesn't even make sense. If I can obtain it myself, why would I need to ask for it?Of course, you can obtain it yourself. It's out there, freely available for the asking.
which is obtaining it ourselves.