Without work, there is no faith.What does that mean? How do works make the difference?
How very evangelical of you. If anything, striving for obedience shows Christ our faith and in that faith we find the strength to continue striving. That's what makes the difference.If anything, striving to be obedient, shows us our weaknesses, its giving our weaknesses to Christ that makes them strengths is what makes the difference.
Again, I haven't said one word about ordinances. They are not salvific in and of themselves. They are not the works that save.Again, conflating ordinances with the rest of the commandments.
Our whole life, everything we do and everything we do in response to things that are done to us.What amount of works is required?
Where have I judged you? Disagreeing with you is not judgment. Might I remind you that it was you who dusted your feet. not me. I find it hilarious that you resort to these off-the-wall condemnations. If you feel it's alright for the woman to have continued in adultery so long as she had faith, then just say so. There's no reason to shoot the messenger. At some point, we can address exactly when we know a person really doesn't have any faith. But that's not what we do here.So you have no faith in 3 Nephi 11, because instead to trying find agreement in the best of intentions, you continually want to contend with me.
Go pull the beam out of your eye, then we can talk.
I have been very clear that if you keep the commandments, you'll be resurrected to life, I don't care if you're baptized or not, if you believe in Jesus or not. I don't care if you have one iota of faith or not. If you keep the commandments (actually God said, if the works you did in life were good) then you will be resurrected to life. I don't understand why that's a problem and why you think it only counts if you have faith.
I know what I need to do to obtain life but because I have Jesus in my life, I want to do so much more than just keep the commandments and the way I live my life is the evidence of my faith. What I choose to do isn't in the commandments, but I want to do them. I accept words of wisdom and I do them as I understand them. I believe that anyone that accepts and does them as they understand them will obtain the obvious benefits of them because they are, in fact, words of wisdom. We really shouldn't need God to tell us these things. But I don't believe doing them makes me anymore saved than the next person who is striving to follow Jesus or is just keeping the commandments. Having the priesthood doesn't, being endowed doesn't, and neither does marriage. Everyone who has strived to follow Christ will dwell together in the celestial kingdom, all of us being as close to God as we can possibly be. There will not be any classes of people. The person who chose not to obtain the endowment or get married will be treated no differently than those who did.
That's an oxymoron. if works make a difference if you have faith, then it makes a difference towards salvation.It makes the difference to help people determining if you have faith, but it does not make any difference in our level of conversion or toward our salvation.
No faith exists if there are no works.Works are simply manifestations of faith that already exists within us.
They also help us recognize if we are on the wrong path.They help us recognize that we are on the right path. They are a lagging indicator. We did not do good works, for the sake of good works.
By his works, just like everyone else who will ever be saved will because of their works.How was Alvin Smith saved?
Yes. He was. His brother, Hyrum, was baptized for him, twice, once in 1840 and again in 1841.He wasn't baptized.
There isn't a paradox concerning Alvin's baptism, but what is a paradox is how you think Alvin's baptism escaped Joseph Smith when it was Alvin's death that prompted the events which brought about baptism for the dead.He didn't even have the work done for him. If works make the difference, then explain this paradox.