1) Where does Eph. 2 "limit" any works in v. 9?
You need to say it. All works? If that's the case, everyone is saved. Even the guy is beat the man's brains out. As long as he has faith that he'll be saved in Jesus Christ (notice there's an uptick from believing to having faith), then any work he does, he is saved.
But thank you for showing that you draw your conclusions from 4 or 5 words and not the context.
2) Why do you ASSUME that the "works" mentioned in v. 9 are limited to only some subset of "works"?
Because verse 10 says that there are good works that were prepared for us to do. Comparing to Romans 4, there was a specific work that the Jews boasted gave them an advantage. Do you know which work that is? Do you see a connection between boasting about works that save us between The Romans letter and the Ephesians letter? If I'm boasting about works there what works do you think I would be boasting about here? We only need to look to v 11 to see the very same works that were being boasted about in Romans.
1) Where does Tit. 3:5 "limit" any works in v. 5?
Why do you think I'm limiting the works mentioned here. I simply asked which works. Do you know? Or do you just want to assume I mean there is a limit? This fits in the same line with 2 Tim 1:9. These works have nothing to do with being saved but instead, the condition they were in when they were born again, but not everyone was like that. Paul was a persecutor of the church. We have, in Cornelius, an individual that God called from among the Gentiles to receive the blessings of the Gospel because of his good works. Not everyone was evil and or a persecutor before they received the gospel.
2) Why do you ASSUME that the "works" mentioned in v. 5 are limited to only some subset of "works"?
Why do you assume I assume that?
1) On what basis do you ASSUME that "not according to our works" is limited to "called" only, and not referring to BOTH "saved" and "called"?
because he said "called us to a holy calling". He's not talking about you. He's talking about Timothy and himself. That isn't us there, You are not in that group. It was in direct reference to Timothy's calling "do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord". He's not talking to you. This has nothing to do with our salvation. It has everything to do with Timothy's standing. The reference above is to Titus, not you or any other so-called Christian. The admonition to both was to preach good works.
Of course, if you probably think that they were supposed to teach good works are important but not necessary. Kind of like the good works in Eph 2:10. The problem is, if you aren't walking in the newness of life, right now, you aren't saved even though you think you are. Good works replace evil works. Light replaces darkness. If the fruits of your labors aren't good, then they must be bad. Only those who follow Christ can be saved. No amount of confessing belief or claiming one has faith is going to save anyone.
2) On what basis do you ASSUME that it is not the case that both "called to a holy calling" and "not according to our works" modify "saved"?
I didn't say they weren't saved. I said it has nothing to do with salvation. It had to do with Timothy's calling. Of course, he was saved, but if he commenced in evil works, he wouldn't be saved. And you'd probably say that he was never saved to begin with. But that's highly unlikely, after all, he did have a holy calling.
Here's the point, If Timothy committed adultery, boom, he's not saved anymore and he doesn't have a holy calling anymore. But you all don't believe that, do you? Timothy would need to repent, but it would be highly doubtful that he'd get that holy calling back.
1) Where does Rom. 4:5-6 "limit" any works?
V 9-11 The whole argument is about the works of the law. Abraham didn't have the law before he was given the law of circumcision which was in consequence of his faith demonstrated by... gets what, good works.
The point of the argument is made in v 12 "... are not merely circumcised but
who also walk in the footsteps of faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised".
Isn't walking an action? Isn't walking in the footsteps of faith necessary? Again I ask you, What is faith? Correlate that to walking.
1) Where does Rom. 11:6 "limit" any works?
and again I ask which works? where do u see that I implied there was a limit? I believe this one is zero works and again it has nothing to do with salvation. this simply about people who believe like the 7000 who would not bend the knee to Baal that the prophet was not aware of.
2) Why do you ASSUME that the "works" mentioned in v. 6 are limited to only some subset of "works"?
why do you assume I believe that?
Yeah, you keep making this FALSE CLAIM.
But you can never link to any post you've written that actually ADDRESSES them.
You simply run away from them.
And you always accuse me of running away, but I'm still here.
I know that's wrong, Our salvation is very much dependent on what we do.
"not by works" does't mean "universal".
So, where does the hair split? On what point is it no longer universal?
