Alison Wonderland
Member
I’m curious what kind of gospel those who believe in Limited Atonement pass along to unbelievers. Since they claim that Jesus didn’t die for most people, then they can’t tell anyone that Jesus loves them without lying to most people since they don’t know the ones whom Jesus DOES love. That’s NOT good news for the world or for Calvinists either since it limits what they can say to people.
And since the word “gospel” means good news, then what else can they preach except ANOTHER gospel which would be this:
“I’m not sure but Jesus MIGHT have died for you. But since Jesus doesn’t love most people, then the chances that he loves you are slim. He might love you in some way, but not enough to pay for your sins. So don’t ask me. I’m as much in the dark about whether Jesus died for you as you are.”
Or at BEST, this: “If you seek salvation, then you will find it.”
That’s the MOST that people who believe in L.A. can say to people without telling them the bad news that Jesus hates most people.
Secondly, Jesus said “I know my sheep.” So since Jesus told his disciples to go into the towns of Israel and wipe the dust off their feet in the towns who reject him, then why did Jesus tell his disciples to go to those towns and preach to people for whom he KNEW he was NOT going to make atonement?
Did Jesus just want to PRETEND to the people in those towns that he loves and cares about their eternal souls? Or did he want his disciples to preach a different gospel to those towns than he preached to his elect? If so, then what was it?
Jesus said this about his crucifiers, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do” . Since Jesus could only ask God to forgive those for whom he died, then please give evidence that the Romans who crucified Jesus were God’s elect and how they felt later on about killing Jesus.
But those of us who KNOW that Jesus died for EVERYONE don’t have to worry about lying to ANYONE. We can just tell EVERYONE that Jesus loves them by dying for everyone on the cross.
Those whom He has chosen to receive that gift by faith will be saved. (Jn 3:16, Mt. 22:14
Jesus already knows those whom he has chosen to believe him (his sheep) but man does NOT.
So that makes MAN accountable for rejecting the cross and shows that God is a loving God who offers mercy to ALL. So election has to do with BELIEF, not the atonement. There is no gospel if Jesus didn’t die for everyone, just bad news and ignorance about what to preach to people.
And since the word “gospel” means good news, then what else can they preach except ANOTHER gospel which would be this:
“I’m not sure but Jesus MIGHT have died for you. But since Jesus doesn’t love most people, then the chances that he loves you are slim. He might love you in some way, but not enough to pay for your sins. So don’t ask me. I’m as much in the dark about whether Jesus died for you as you are.”
Or at BEST, this: “If you seek salvation, then you will find it.”
That’s the MOST that people who believe in L.A. can say to people without telling them the bad news that Jesus hates most people.
Secondly, Jesus said “I know my sheep.” So since Jesus told his disciples to go into the towns of Israel and wipe the dust off their feet in the towns who reject him, then why did Jesus tell his disciples to go to those towns and preach to people for whom he KNEW he was NOT going to make atonement?
Did Jesus just want to PRETEND to the people in those towns that he loves and cares about their eternal souls? Or did he want his disciples to preach a different gospel to those towns than he preached to his elect? If so, then what was it?
Jesus said this about his crucifiers, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do” . Since Jesus could only ask God to forgive those for whom he died, then please give evidence that the Romans who crucified Jesus were God’s elect and how they felt later on about killing Jesus.
But those of us who KNOW that Jesus died for EVERYONE don’t have to worry about lying to ANYONE. We can just tell EVERYONE that Jesus loves them by dying for everyone on the cross.
So that makes MAN accountable for rejecting the cross and shows that God is a loving God who offers mercy to ALL. So election has to do with BELIEF, not the atonement. There is no gospel if Jesus didn’t die for everyone, just bad news and ignorance about what to preach to people.