Yes. Now that that irrelevancy is put aside, please point out where I said that "children in [my] family should take their values from a bunch of parading naked perverts" or anything like it. I'll wait.
Have you ever seen a gay vanity parade?
I don't need to "correct the record" when all that is on it is a bunch of lies made up by the right.
You're free to characterize my understanding of your words however you wish. None of that accomplishes the clarification that's called for this instance.
No you wouldn't; nobody in the right is interested in the slightest in what those on the left actually mean.
To that I would simply point out, that I'm asking for your clarification, and in my book you're on the left. Thus far that clarification has not been forthcoming.
They are interested in how they can caricature what those on the left said to make out that those on the left are evil, predatory groomers. As has been the constant in this thread.
I would like nothing more than to be shown convincing evidence that that is not true. Do you think I wanna live in that kind of world? I assure you, I do not.
I nowhere said anything whatsoever about where any child should take their values,
It's been a while, but I have a distinct memory of you defending the idea of taking children to these gay vanity parades. If I'm wrong on that point I stand ready to be corrected.
yet it's been said that I think my children "should take their values from a bunch of parading naked perverts".
What message do you suppose a child who is drug to one of these gay vanity parades is going to glean from the event? There is a clip of video of a little child seeing a naked man painted silver very naturally recoiling like you might expect a child to recoiled from a snake and the parents look down and smile approvingly as this naked man shakes hands with the unwilling child. How does the child come to any other conclusion than "gee mommy and daddy were smiling when this whole thing took place, so it must be okay?" That my dear friend
@Electric Skeptic, is how values are instilled in children.
I nowhere said or implied anything about whether or not I would take part in such a parade, yet two of your 'friends' have accused me of doing so for - the implication is obvious - perverted ends.
Perhaps the answer is, you would not. This would be a great thing for you to clarify. I was under the assumption that you would, because I have this memory, as I said above, of you defending the idea. Perhaps I need to be corrected on that. I stand ready to be corrected provided the correction is truly an order.
The day the right actually starts listening to and dealing with what the left actually says will be the day we cut through a lot of the right's hate.
First of all, hate is wrong only when the object of hatred is something that is not essentially loathsome. It is a problem when you do not hate that which is loathsome. That failure is a clear sign that you were morally deficient. But if somebody is mistaken about the genuine nature of a thing, and they judge something wrongly to be truly loathsome which is actually quite redeemable, then that is a grave error. It is the absolute obligation of a Christian to "be holy as I am holy" which includes loving what God loves, loathing what God Ioaths, and seeking to redeem that which Christ died to redeem. The recognition of that fact is why I have asked for your clarification and number of times in this post alone.
I can't see it happening soon.
You know what would make me happy? To find out that you and I just have some disagreements on particular policies here and there, because we have a different perspective. This is why I ask for clarification when what you say is not clear to me.
