What is Faith?

[El Cid]

What part of that post are you referring to?

The part about prayer.

 

[El Cid]

Maybe but billions attribute it to God.

Irrelevant argumentum ad populum.

While it doesnt prove it, it is evidence. The fact that billions believe that the earth is round is evidence that the earth is round.

El Cid said:
As I stated earlier, the mind is not a physical entity. So such things do not require any physicality.

Please give a confirmable example of a mind that is not associated with a brain.

The fact that the mind can cure the body including the brain of diseases is evidence they are separate to a signficant extent. The placebo effect.

El Cid said:
Provide an example where a brain was empirically observed to form.

Literally any pregnancy.

That is because it was programmed to form. A program implies a programmer. But provide an example of a brain forming without a program (DNA).

El Cid said:
Provide an example where something as complex as language just emerged.

Languages don't "just" emerge; it takes an enormous amount of time.

There is nothing magical about time.

 

[Eightcrackers]

While it doesnt prove it, it is evidence. The fact that billions believe that the earth is round is evidence that the earth is round.

Wrong.

The fact that the mind can cure the body including the brain of diseases is evidence they are separate to a signficant extent. The placebo effect.

Does not prove that the mind is independent of the brain - could be the brain curing itself via the mind.
Non-neural systems fix themselves, after all.

That is because it was programmed to form.

Prove it.

But provide an example of a brain forming without a program (DNA).

Loaded question.

 

[El Cid]

While it doesnt prove it, it is evidence. The fact that billions believe that the earth is round is evidence that the earth is round.

Wrong.

Why not? These Billions have been educated on this by teachers using science.

El Cid said:
The fact that the mind can cure the body including the brain of diseases is evidence they are separate to a signficant extent. The placebo effect.

Does not prove that the mind is independent of the brain - could be the brain curing itself via the mind.
Non-neural systems fix themselves, after all.

Non-conscious systems cannot know that they sick.

El Cid said:
That is because it was programmed to form.

Prove it.

All brains are the result of a DNA program producing the correct proteins to make a brain.

El Cid said:
But provide an example of a brain forming without a program (DNA).

Loaded question.

You are just evading the obvious answer.

 

[Eightcrackers]

Why not? These Billions have been educated on this by teachers using science.

Then it is the science that is the evidence, not the number of believers in it.

Non-conscious systems cannot know that they sick.

And the mentally ill often do not know that they are mentally ill.

 

[El Cid]

Why not? These Billions have been educated on this by teachers using science.

Then it is the science that is the evidence, not the number of believers in it.

They still have to choose to accept the evidence, some people dont.

El Cid said:
Non-conscious systems cannot know that they sick.

And the mentally ill often do not know that they are mentally ill.

And yet a non-physical mind can fix a physical problem.