What is it that is imputed?

1Thess521

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After figurately pulling some teeth, and a 100 posts later we have a concession that something is imputed.

This thread is about what is that thing that is imputed,
So @dingoling. and other Catholics
read the verses below and answer: What is it that is imputed? (the OP)

Romans 4:6
NIV David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
ESV just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works
NRSV So also David speaks of the blessedness of those to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works:
NKJV just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:

Romans 4:11
And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,

Romans 4:22-23
And therefore it was credited to him as righteousness.
Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him,

etc
 
1Thess521 said:
After figurately pulling some teeth, and a 100 posts later we have a concession that something is imputed.

This thread is about what is that thing that is imputed,
So @dingoling. and other Catholics
read the verses below and answer: What is it that is imputed? (the OP)

Romans 4:6
NIV David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
ESV just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works
NRSV So also David speaks of the blessedness of those to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works:
NKJV just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:

Romans 4:11
And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,

Romans 4:22-23
And therefore it was credited to him as righteousness.
Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him,

etc
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Reckoned as righteousness means that our sins have been forgiven.

Romans 4:6-7, "So also David speaks of the blessedness of those to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8blessed is the one against whom the Lord will not reckon sin.”"

What is it that is imputed to us - our sins have been forgiven.
 
dingoling. said:
Reckoned as righteousness means that our sins have been forgiven.

Romans 4:6-7, "So also David speaks of the blessedness of those to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works: “Blessed are those whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8blessed is the one against whom the Lord will not reckon sin.”"

What is it that is imputed to us - our sins have been forgiven.
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God imputes righteousness
that righteousness might be imputed
it <righteousness> was imputed to him,

The verses I posted state that it is righteousness that is imputed.

Please address those verses
 
1Thess521 said:
God imputes righteousness
that righteousness might be imputed
it <righteousness> was imputed to him,

The verses I posted state that it is righteousness that is imputed.

Please address those verses
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That is addressing those verses. Their sins have been forgiven therefore their faith is reckoned/imputed as righteousness.
 
dingoling. said:
That is addressing those verses. Their sins have been forgiven therefore their faith is reckoned/imputed as righteousness.
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the verses clearly state that it is righteousness that is imputed
is it figurative?

God imputes righteousness
that righteousness might be imputed
it <righteousness> was imputed to him,
 
1Thess521 said:
the verses clearly state that it is righteousness that is imputed
is it figurative?

God imputes righteousness
that righteousness might be imputed
it <righteousness> was imputed to him,
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Yes, that is what that means - our sins have been forgiven.
 
1Thess521 said:
So @dingoling. and other Catholics
read the verses below and answer: What is it that is imputed? (the OP)

Romans 4:6
NIV David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
ESV just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works
NRSV So also David speaks of the blessedness of those to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works:
NKJV just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:
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Righteousness is being credited/counted/reckoned.
This particular sentence doesn't itself say what precisely is being reckoned as righteousness, but the Catholic view is that it would be something that is in fact an intrinsically righteous thing. Which is why it would be counted as righteous.
1Thess521 said:
Romans 4:11
And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,
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Righteousness is being credited/counted/reckoned.
This sentence has within it that it is faith that is being credited as righteousness.
Now, why is it credited as a righteous act...?
1Thess521 said:
Romans 4:22-23
And therefore it was credited to him as righteousness.
Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him,

etc
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"Therefore" it (the faith) was credited as righteousness.
If you can quote the verse before the "therefore," when could find the explanation Paul gives as to why this faith is counted as a righteous act.
 
1Thess521 said:
After figurately pulling some teeth, and a 100 posts later we have a concession that something is imputed.

This thread is about what is that thing that is imputed,
So @dingoling. and other Catholics
read the verses below and answer: What is it that is imputed? (the OP)

Romans 4:6
NIV David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
ESV just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works
NRSV So also David speaks of the blessedness of those to whom God reckons righteousness apart from works:
NKJV just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works:

Romans 4:11
And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while still uncircumcised, that he might be the father of all those who believe, though they are uncircumcised, that righteousness might be imputed to them also,

Romans 4:22-23
And therefore it was credited to him as righteousness.
Now it was not written for his sake alone that it was imputed to him,

etc
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In your theology, after being imputed with righteousness are our future sins immune from judgment?
 
DeSanto said:
Lol! Lurker here ?

What a strange thread.
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Does Scripture teach...
are we imputed with anything? (previous thread )

Is anything imputed to a believer?

I already answered you. So instead of asking endless questions just tell us what you are trying to say please. Thanks. this is what I am trying to say: what is the point of discussing WHAT is imputed if you claim there is NO imputation:? FIRST does imputation exist? in one post you say "no"...
forums.carm.org

if yes then
are we imputed with righteousness? (this current thread)

if yes then
are we imputed with the righteousness from God? (the next thread)
 
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dingoling. said:
Yes.
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that's quite a concession for someone who just last week claimed that nothing is imputed

so now we are up to
1) something IS imputed
2) and that something is righteousness
next:
3) are we imputed with the righteousness from God?
 
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1Thess521 said:
that's quite a concession for someone who just last week claimed that nothing is imputed

so now we are up to
1) something IS imputed
2) and that something is righteousness
next:
3) are we imputed with the righteousness from God?
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I already answered this. Reckoned/imputed as righteousness means that our sins have been forgiven. So yes.

What is your definition of, "imputed with the righteousness of God"?
 
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