American Gothic
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you did do this part, no?
11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’
What is righteousness?
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11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.’
Jewjitzu
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If you've bothered reading the context, blood cannot be eaten nor drunk, but only used as a means of atonement, not the only one.
A better question or concern for you is the obligation to bring a sacrifice, blood, onto the altar, in Jerusalem, which never happened with Jesus' sacrifice. So, his sacrifice is not according to the commandments nor acceptable.
Thanks for playing.
American Gothic
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if so, wouldn't that be Lawful activity and count as "righteousness" for all involved?
will be interesting to see how it all plays out
why does Israel kill their prophets and repeatedly/habitually rebel against God?
American Gothic
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is it unLawful/unrighteousness to speculate about who the Messiah might be?
American Gothic
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"be holy because I am holy"
"be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect"
which branch of Judaism has the higher standard of righteousness?
"be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect"
which branch of Judaism has the higher standard of righteousness?
American Gothic
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is holy the same as perfect?
Jewjitzu
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It shows Jesus depended on his parents for righteousness. His parents helped to save him.
It's happening all over.
You didn't answer my question. Why not?
I don't recall all of the prophets being killed. But, fortunately there's always been a remnant.
Jewjitzu
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Holy means separate.
Jewjitzu
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No, one can image or supposed. But a better indicator are the signs of the times, rebuilding of the temple, the knowledge of God over the world, a scion of David following and teaching Torah, like in Deut 17:14-20.
Jewjitzu
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Which ever branch follows Torah.
American Gothic
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what's that
an Indie rock band?
American Gothic
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so the Mosaic law separates some from other peoples to a certain extant
but does not make anyone Perfect (?)
American Gothic
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American Gothic
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the Jesus/righteousness question? already answered...
His Righteousness is inherent to His Person
that's the same Person that said,
"be Holy as I am Holy" and
"be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect"
Open Heart
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It means literally strange worship, and is usually translated idolatry.
Jewjitzu
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Separate to the worship of the one true God.
Psalm 119:1 ASVbut does not make anyone Perfect (?)
Blessed are they that are perfect in the way, Who walk in the law of Jehovah.
If you continue walking in the way. As was asked of Abraham -
Genesis 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, Jehovah appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
Jewjitzu
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No, you didn't answer it. If it was inherent, he wouldn't have to work on it.
And, he wouldn't have to rely on his parents righteousness to save him either.
Luke 2:52
And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor (grace
with God and man.You don't grow in grace with God if you're perfect already, or God.
But my previous question was since you're pushing Leviticus 17:11 and sacrifices for atonement, then why didn't Jesus fulfill the law and apply his blood on the altar in the temple in Jerusalem? A sacrifice is a waste otherwise ?. Besides the fact that human sacrifices aren't acceptable anyway.
But more importantly, when are you going to admit that God counts us as righteous for keeping the laws? It's been proven to you.
Rotfl... you wish.
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Jewjitzu
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Rotfl... she doesn't have a clue. Neither does the book of Hebrews.
American Gothic
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gentile believers in the one true God don't have to observe the Mosaic law
it separated Israel from the other Nations to a certain extent and for a time
oh, "the way" huh?
where have I heard that before...?
Abraham had no Mosaic law either - didn't need it
God says Israel broke that covenant Jeremiah 31
guess they didn't/don't keep God's laws to the standard God requires and was agreed to at Sinai
not Perfect yet
keep trying...
Jewjitzu
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If you want to be part of Israel, grafted, you do, Isaiah 56:1-8. That was the whole point of Acts 15. Initial commandments on the way to full observance.
Originally from the Jews.
He had his laws including circumcision.
And yet the same laws, covenant, is written on the hearts and minds. It's an eternal law and covenant. God's law accounts for sin.
That's why a continuous walk is required. Jesus needed to be perfected as well, and the original Nazarenes understood that as noted by Eusebius in Ecclesiastical History of the Church.not Perfect yet
keep trying...
And the NT notes that as well.Jesus' sacrifice wasn't perfect. It fell short off the altar.